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manny88

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I'm testing my uncle's new MacBook Pro base model, as my one with the upgraded specs hasn't been shipped yet. And man this thing is so fast and responsive.

Looking up dictionary definitions lightning quick.

Loading up webpages is lightning quick.

I have a 4470R PC with a Samsung 850 and 16gb ram running Windows, and it scores much higher in CPU than this laptop. And I never thought websites could load any faster, but I was 100% wrong. Using the same Wifi, everything on the internet is loading super fast.

I definitely think the SSD drives in these MacBooks make all the difference. Thats the only thing that is faster than any of my other computers. These SSD's in the MacBooks are stupidly fast, and they definitely make a difference, even just loading pages.

Very very impressed, that's all I can say really. And the keyboard is decent too.
 

jerryk

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I'm testing my uncle's new MacBook Pro base model, as my one with the upgraded specs hasn't been shipped yet. And man this thing is so fast and responsive.

Looking up dictionary definitions lightning quick.

Loading up webpages is lightning quick.

I have a 4470R PC with a Samsung 850 and 16gb ram running Windows, and it scores much higher in CPU than this laptop. And I never thought websites could load any faster, but I was 100% wrong. Using the same Wifi, everything on the internet is loading super fast.

I definitely think the SSD drives in these MacBooks make all the difference. Thats the only thing that is faster than any of my other computers. These SSD's in the MacBooks are stupidly fast, and they definitely make a difference, even just loading pages.

Very very impressed, that's all I can say really. And the keyboard is decent too.


Make sure you are running the same browser. Inefficient scripting on webpages can really slow a site down and different browsers have different javascript engines.
 

manny88

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Do you really think that the SSD in the MacBook Pro makes the internet faster?

lol. no

I will give you a hint: it has something to do with the wireless card in the laptop.


It may not make receiving the data faster. But it definitely processes the data at a super speed on the laptop.

My main PC is double the CPU power, has a 500GB Samsung 850 SSD, and is wired to my router.

The Macbook is using WiFi on that same router (slower than wired), with half the CPU power, and it loads webpages faster.

But like I said it's not just the internet. Everything on the macbook is super zippy.

I never knew SSD's were still bottle-necking today's computers, now I know I was wrong.
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Make sure you are running the same browser. Inefficient scripting on webpages can really slow a site down and different browsers have different javascript engines.

Yep I am. I still definitely notice a difference.

Just loading the homepage of Google.co.uk is much faster.

I no longer have the Macbook on me, as my uncle has now left. But when I get mine, I'll be definitely installing the Brave browser to test heavy ad and script pages like dailymail.co.uk.
 

jerryk

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It may not make receiving the data faster. But it definitely processes the data at a super speed on the laptop.

My main PC is double the CPU power, has a 500GB Samsung 850 SSD, and is wired to my router.

The Macbook is using WiFi on that same router (slower than wired), with half the CPU power, and it loads webpages faster.

But like I said it's not just the internet. Everything on the macbook is super zippy.

I never knew SSD's were still bottle-necking today's computers, now I know I was wrong.

I am not sure I buy it is the SSD. I have a 2015 15" rMBP with the slower, 1.5 GB/sec SSD. It is quicker than my previous macbook with a Samsung Evo 850 (0.5 GB/sec) on some operations, but in general it is not that noticeable. The biggest measurable difference is rendering video clips.

And the 2015 rMBP 15 is definitely slower than my deskside system which has a 4770K processor, 16 Gb of memory, Asus MB, and Evo 850 in everything except bulk large file transfers.
 
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motime

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Lol SSD plays inconsequential role in loading webpages faster, unless it's super intensive pages in which case it's mostly a cpu thing anyway.
 

powertoold

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Lol SSD plays inconsequential role in loading webpages faster, unless it's super intensive pages in which case it's mostly a cpu thing anyway.

I think the ssd may play a little role, like loading flash or a plug in or something like that.
 

Saturn1217

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I think you are just feeling the effects of a brand new install on a new machine. I did a clean install of El Capitan on my 3 year old Air and it feels amazing speed wise for basic functions (web browsing, GUI manipulation etc.). It doesn't mean the machine is actually that fast.
 

Macalway

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Web pages might not load faster, but you noticed the drive. Got to love these. (I have one)

(to think there are countless people using 5400 rpm....vrooom)
 
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jerryk

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Yep I am. I still definitely notice a difference.

Just loading the homepage of Google.co.uk is much faster.

I no longer have the Macbook on me, as my uncle has now left. But when I get mine, I'll be definitely installing the Brave browser to test heavy ad and script pages like dailymail.co.uk.

So which browser did you load on both system? Hopefully it was one of the main ones, Firefox or Chrome.
 

IllIllIll

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Oct 2, 2011
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How long does it take to look up the definition of "placebo effect" on your dictionary?
 

bmustaf

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Do you really think that the SSD in the MacBook Pro makes the internet faster?

lol. no

I will give you a hint: it has something to do with the wireless card in the laptop.

If you want to be really snarky/holier than thou in your assessment here, actually, the wireless card doesn't mean anything. In loading a web page the last thing that is going to slow you down is your WiFi connection to your router (you could even be using 802.11b, the original ubiquitous WiFi standard and it'll not be the weakest link in the chain), the network is constrained from your router/cable modem/boundary device/customer demarc to the upstream provider most likely. Basically, absent having an OC-3 or better connection your pipe to/from the internet is the weak link, WiFi of even 5-7 years ago is still faster than your internet connection (yes, I know Cox/ATT/Verizon/TW sold you 20mbps/60mbps, whatever, but again, actual speeds, even an 11mbps WLAN will have better throughput and certainly better latency).

Most modern web pages are actually kind of computationally intense (not in the same way computationally intense things like graphics, data processing, etc are) in the sense that they load a fair amount of things in parallel (do tons of asynchronous calls with wait queues/run queues managing simultaneous requests), allocate memory for them (malloc calls), etc. How an OS handles paging, threading, etc will actually impact this likely a lot more than a network card that does 54mbs over 11mbs, etc, etc.

Actually, I'd argue in this day and age, with WAN links being the network bottle neck that a new machine/network card can't do anything about, a faster SSD, faster bus/RAM speeds, etc actually *are* the things that speed up the web browsing experience.

Having a better paging unit, MMU, DDR3, and the like (and hell, even a better SSD for when the linker/runtime needs to go to disk to pull a static library that is not in RAM or was paged out) WILL actually make more difference than the network card, snarky pants.
 

leesam

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Oct 12, 2011
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If you want to be really snarky/holier than thou in your assessment here, actually, the wireless card doesn't mean anything. In loading a web page the last thing that is going to slow you down is your WiFi connection to your router (you could even be using 802.11b, the original ubiquitous WiFi standard and it'll not be the weakest link in the chain), the network is constrained from your router/cable modem/boundary device/customer demarc to the upstream provider most likely. Basically, absent having an OC-3 or better connection your pipe to/from the internet is the weak link, WiFi of even 5-7 years ago is still faster than your internet connection (yes, I know Cox/ATT/Verizon/TW sold you 20mbps/60mbps, whatever, but again, actual speeds, even an 11mbps WLAN will have better throughput and certainly better latency).

Most modern web pages are actually kind of computationally intense (not in the same way computationally intense things like graphics, data processing, etc are) in the sense that they load a fair amount of things in parallel (do tons of asynchronous calls with wait queues/run queues managing simultaneous requests), allocate memory for them (malloc calls), etc. How an OS handles paging, threading, etc will actually impact this likely a lot more than a network card that does 54mbs over 11mbs, etc, etc.

Actually, I'd argue in this day and age, with WAN links being the network bottle neck that a new machine/network card can't do anything about, a faster SSD, faster bus/RAM speeds, etc actually *are* the things that speed up the web browsing experience.

Having a better paging unit, MMU, DDR3, and the like (and hell, even a better SSD for when the linker/runtime needs to go to disk to pull a static library that is not in RAM or was paged out) WILL actually make more difference than the network card, snarky pants.
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well done, sir.
 
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Pootmatoot

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Nov 17, 2014
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Day One clean laptops are speedier than Day 200 laptops stuffed with programs?

Colour me shocked!
 

marc55

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Oct 14, 2011
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You know, it's a shame when someone like the OP comes on here and is relates his happiness, that some just have to piss on his parade. These forums are going to the dogs lately.

What ever happened to something like "wow, that's great"?.

Not everyone is tech oriented and knows what does what inside a computer, all they know is they like it, think it's great, and that's all that matters to them.

That said, what ever happened to the old saying "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing"

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