Thoughts? : Apple 24" LED Display vs. Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP

[blairh]

Actually, I had a matte Dell inspiron 6400. I never managed to use it outside once. With the sun shinning, I couldn't even read black text off a white background with the brightness all the way up.

I really don't know how much sunlight exactly was shining onto your screen, and whether you were outside at the time or inside, but the reality is that matte screens are far more easier and enjoyable to look at with sunlight reflecting down upon them in any way vs. a glossy screen. I'm specifically speaking of conditions where you are inside and have windows behind you letting sunlight hit your screen. How your screen worked outside it direct sunlight isn't a valid example. The OP is not going to be outside using their monitor having to deal with direct sunlight of that nature.

Get the HP over the Dell. Every monitor has "issues" if you look hard enough at enough forums. My HP was fantastic, and if you buy from Amazon, you can return it for a full refund if you aren't happy.

 

[gathart]

Just ordered an apple 24"

 

[MIDI_EVIL]

thread is http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1326971

It's coming up on a hundred pages now and I haven't kept up in a while. The part I was following earlier was graduated color inconsistencies across the screen (ie pinkish one side, greenish other side, etc).

Thanks for the link!

The last page seems to imply that the new models have a newer firmware, correcting the previous issues?

 

[RobP]

I really don't know how much sunlight exactly was shining onto your screen, and whether you were outside at the time or inside, but the reality is that matte screens are far more easier and enjoyable to look at with sunlight reflecting down upon them in any way vs. a glossy screen. I'm specifically speaking of conditions where you are inside and have windows behind you letting sunlight hit your screen. How your screen worked outside it direct sunlight isn't a valid example. The OP is not going to be outside using their monitor having to deal with direct sunlight of that nature.

Get the HP over the Dell. Every monitor has "issues" if you look hard enough at enough forums. My HP was fantastic, and if you buy from Amazon, you can return it for a full refund if you aren't happy.

I've got a South Facing window behind me and to my left and have no issue with reflections. The screen is bright enough that I never notice. When I have a dark background, reflections are there but I don't really notice - I guess it is down to personal tolerance.

The best thing about the ACD 24" is that the colours seem to remain the same regardless of viewing angle - in fact it is the nearest I have seen to a CRT representation on a flat screen. My Mrs in contrast uses a Dell 20" display that whilst good, has an issue that most displays seem to suffer from where if you move your head up or down or left or right the colours subtly change in intensity and brightness.

The ACD is expensive, but for me was worth every penny.

RobP

 

[RemarkabLee]

My Mrs in contrast uses a Dell 20" display that whilst good, has an issue that most displays seem to suffer from where if you move your head up or down or left or right the colours subtly change in intensity and brightness.

That is typical of ANY TN Film based panel, some more evident than others though. More recent TN Film panels are better (such as the 20" iMac) but a lot of cheaper LCD's have these panels.

H/S-IPS panels as used on the 24"iMac and the LED CD do not exhibit this 'feature'

 

[KnightWRX]

Those results are most likely inaccurate because it is widely accepted that PVA has better contrast ratios than IPS.

The lacie 724 has the same panel as the 2408 and also has hardware calibration to ensure proper calibration so this measurement is almost foolproof. The led display got about 600 while the lacie got about 1200.

Feel free to peruse their site then : http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/. The guy writing this blog uses Lacie hardware to calibrate the monitors and his result on the Dell as far as contrast ratio were really close to the HP.

Unless he has no clue how to calibrate a monitor (he sounds like he knows what he's talking about), his results are probably very accurate.

 

[blairh]

I've got a South Facing window behind me and to my left and have no issue with reflections. The screen is bright enough that I never notice. When I have a dark background, reflections are there but I don't really notice - I guess it is down to personal tolerance.


RobP

I'm sorry but I just can't swallow the idea of sunlight reflecting on a glossy screen and someone not noticing it. Of course a reflection or glare will appear, the sunlight is hitting glass.

Your eyes are simply used to this by now. It may not bother you, but your eyes are working harder to avoid being bothered by that glare/reflection. Everyone should go with what they desire monitor wise, but I'll never mix glossy screens with sunlight. Nuff said.

 

[blackhand1001]

Feel free to peruse their site then : http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/. The guy writing this blog uses Lacie hardware to calibrate the monitors and his result on the Dell as far as contrast ratio were really close to the HP.

Unless he has no clue how to calibrate a monitor (he sounds like he knows what he's talking about), his results are probably very accurate.

I was pointing out that S-PVA screens have much higher constrast ratios than IPS. Its important when talking about black depth. Almost eveyr other site has the dell with a higher contrast ratio than the HP or the Apple display. I am not saying that one is better than the other, but for multimedia playback, the majority of the TV community would agree that S-PVA is superior in that aspect.