Thoughts on cracking pepsi codes...

[varmit]

Why do people install linux on iPods? Because they can.

And as soon as you put in a some bad or used cap codes, your account gets cancelled and you get arrested. Why, because you had to use a credit card to sign up in the first place. Oh, used someone elses, they have your IP now too. Knock! Knock! Knock! FBI! Don't forget your KY.

Stick to just looking under the bottle cap before buying.

 

[Logik]

And as soon as you put in a some bad or used cap codes, your account gets cancelled and you get arrested. Why, because you had to use a credit card to sign up in the first place. Oh, used someone elses, they have your IP now too. Knock! Knock! Knock! FBI! Don't forget your KY.

Stick to just looking under the bottle cap before buying.

besides that doesn't it limit you to redeeming 10 a day or something along those lines? my brother worked as a janitor (after school job) and cleaned the classrooms ... LOTS of bottles thrown away that were winners, i believe they limited it to 10 codes per day last year, not sure if they're doing the same this year. i think he ended up with like 120 free songs because of that too.. and had to give some to me because he couldn't redeem them fast enough due to that limit

 

[JonoColesUK]

who the hell drinks pepsi?????

 

[4409723]

And as soon as you put in a some bad or used cap codes, your account gets cancelled and you get arrested. Why, because you had to use a credit card to sign up in the first place. Oh, used someone elses, they have your IP now too. Knock! Knock! Knock! FBI! Don't forget your KY.

Stick to just looking under the bottle cap before buying.

I hope Bubba will go easy, I only was stealing $0.99 worth of music.

As I said, I wasn't going to do this. I can't; I live in the UK. I was wondering about the technical viability.

 

[Mord]

Why do people install linux on iPods? Because they can.

i put it on my ipod to cheat in cisco exams, i can look at the file browser and check where certain files are in a linux system

 

[Mechcozmo]

lol.. wow you are taking this way to seriously. go take a chill pill and calm down. i'm everything that's wrong in this world? i'm certainly not what's wrong with this world seeing as i donate to miscellaneous charity groups throughout the year, might not be a lot but i still give something. i also volunteer at a school where i will be teaching in less than 2 years.

the reason i "stole" from those bottles is simple, it's a freakin code under a cap. if pepsi was at all "worried" about this then they would've changed it. there's 200,000,000 caps out there. the odds of them all being used are very unlikely, the odds of someone getting of those caps that i might "steal" is even smaller. so chill your asses and forget about it, you're all flipping out for no reason.

Just because there is wrong in this world doesn't mean you can add to it.
Just because I don't believe in something doesn't mean I can use it as an excuse to make more things that are wrong.
Just because you will do something good in the future doesn't mean you can cancel out your bad now.
Just because the chance of something happening is low, doesn't mean you can hope it doesn't happen.

 

[neoelectronaut]

I bought a Cherry Pepsi today with the hopes of getting a free song...

...got a buy one get one free cap instead...

 

[angelneo]

lol.. wow you are taking this way to seriously. go take a chill pill and calm down. i'm everything that's wrong in this world? i'm certainly not what's wrong with this world seeing as i donate to miscellaneous charity groups throughout the year, might not be a lot but i still give something. i also volunteer at a school where i will be teaching in less than 2 years.

the reason i "stole" from those bottles is simple, it's a freakin code under a cap. if pepsi was at all "worried" about this then they would've changed it. there's 200,000,000 caps out there. the odds of them all being used are very unlikely, the odds of someone getting of those caps that i might "steal" is even smaller. so chill your asses and forget about it, you're all flipping out for no reason.

Dude, it's a slippery slope. Once you start justifying tiny small errors with "who cares", "its just a 0.99", you are going to start doing it again with bigger stuff. Its always these small stuff that lead to bigger mistakes. I got friends who always find excuses for stuff they did and next thing you know, they start cheating in test quoting excuses and excuses. They can always find excuses but it doesn't change the truth.

 

[Logik]

Dude, it's a slippery slope. Once you start justifying tiny small errors with "who cares", "its just a 0.99", you are going to start doing it again with bigger stuff. Its always these small stuff that lead to bigger mistakes. I got friends who always find excuses for stuff they did and next thing you know, they start cheating in test quoting excuses and excuses. They can always find excuses but it doesn't change the truth.

right... let me explain.. i used to steal software, as a student making no money at all i couldn't afford it. now that i can afford it i buy it. odd eh? i've done the reverse of what you're saying. i haven't stolen music since iTMS came out, and I buy more music now than i did before. I buy software now as well. School gives me HEAVY discounts on Office, and Windows XP including free antivirus software. You make it affordable to me and i'll be happy to buy the product. there's no slippery slope here man. you guys are bitching at me about this yet there's tens of other people out there doing it in mass... i don't see why i'm taking all the crap here because i haven't even touched one of these bottles yet this year but to see if i could still see the codes and if it was a winner, and no i didn't steal it.

you definitely need to stop pidgeon holing me here, i'd have to say i'm probabl y a better person than A LOT of the people you know so ripping me a new one isn't doing any good, so get off it. "if" someone get's one that doesn't work .. i'll be happy to get them one that does. this is where i'm ending this discussion because i don't need more crap from you guys, i got enough **** going on and i'd rather help someone on here than argue about ethics

 

[wPod]

i thought the major step that iTMS has taken was to get people AWAY from stealing. and in general i think it has worked. there will always be the couple people that find a way around and with technology how it is people will always be trying to download free music, free movies and free software. it just cots more to make the 'perfect' DRM for all forms of media than it costs to lose a little money to stealing. i just think those who dont steal will always feel better about themselves. but i have to admit tilting the bottle is not stealing. as long as you tilt, look for a winner, then buy the winner. but if you steal the code and prevent someone else from putting it it, thats still stealing. but i dont even think you can see the full code. when ever i look i can only see a difference b/w the winners and the losers. but im hopeing to find some soon, the caps havent found their way to dallas yet.

 

[Logik]

i thought the major step that iTMS has taken was to get people AWAY from stealing. and in general i think it has worked. there will always be the couple people that find a way around and with technology how it is people will always be trying to download free music, free movies and free software. it just cots more to make the 'perfect' DRM for all forms of media than it costs to lose a little money to stealing. i just think those who dont steal will always feel better about themselves. but i have to admit tilting the bottle is not stealing. as long as you tilt, look for a winner, then buy the winner. but if you steal the code and prevent someone else from putting it it, thats still stealing. but i dont even think you can see the full code. when ever i look i can only see a difference b/w the winners and the losers. but im hopeing to find some soon, the caps havent found their way to dallas yet.

let's see.. total cost of musical goods in 2003? $40 (1 cd, and about 20 songs from iTMS when it was available to windows users).

total spent in 2004 (excluding pepsi promotion) - $320 (numerous cd's that are now $8-10 instead of $15-20, and about $100 in iTMS songs)

total spent in 2005 so far.. $10 on iTMS.... still trying to pay for tuition this semester so not much spare money laying around...

and just to note, you CAN see the free code. someone mentioned that some distributors will put more in the bottle so maybe this does vary from location to location, but here where i live, i CAN tip the bottle, if you see "free song" then turn it a complete 180 you can view the code upside down, you will then have to read it upside down and backwards from bottom to top to get the code. it isn't exactly easy but it is possible if you look at it right. if annyone would like i could buy a bottle and see if i can take pictures of it.. in fact i'll grab one on the way home just to prove it. i'll try to take pictures tonight, but if not i'll do it tomorrow after classes

 

[angelneo]

you definitely need to stop pidgeon holing me here, i'd have to say i'm probabl y a better person than A LOT of the people you know so ripping me a new one isn't doing any good, so get off it. "if" someone get's one that doesn't work .. i'll be happy to get them one that does. this is where i'm ending this discussion because i don't need more crap from you guys, i got enough **** going on and i'd rather help someone on here than argue about ethics

Actually, I'm not bitching about you... It's just that you reminded me of one of my friend, that's all. And he is not doing that good right now. just offering some perspective.

 

[Logik]

Actually, I'm not bitching about you... It's just that you reminded me of one of my friend, that's all. And he is not doing that good right now. just offering some perspective.

i think that was more of a combination of everyone attacking me

sure it's not fair to those who get a cap that doesnt work.. however i have gotten caps from pepsi that didn't work .. "invalid code" .. not "this code has already been used" ... it was just a bad code on the cap, in fact it has happened quite a few times.. i'd be more concerned about pepsi's bad codes than someoen stealing caps

anyway, i buy more stuff now than i used to because they've given me a way to buy it at a price i can afford and in the way i want it. a lot of the code stealing i was doing before was simply a proof of concept kinda thing.. no one believed me i could do it so i did it and proved i could.

 

[wildace]

# of combinations

As computed in my password calculator there are 13,537,086,546,263,600
possible combinations and it would only take 100,000 computers to crack it in 3.94 hours if operating at peak performance.
-wild ace

 

[mojohanna]

It's not ridiculous, it's cheaper for pepsi to make/distribute the larger bottles, due to packaging issues. That's why they price them like that.

Whenever you buy anything in bulk it's cheaper than buying smaller quantities.

Keep in mind that you are most likely buying the 20oz in some sort of 7-11 type store. You pay more for a convienient purchase.
Quit your griping, go back to P2P and leave the rest of this to people who enjoy the thrill of winning a $.99 song. You are taking away all of the fun in this for me. I enjoy hearing my wife give me a hard time about buying a soda for $1.29 just to TRY to win a $.99 song.

 

[Logik]

Keep in mind that you are most likely buying the 20oz in some sort of 7-11 type store. You pay more for a convienient purchase.
Quit your griping, go back to P2P and leave the rest of this to people who enjoy the thrill of winning a $.99 song. You are taking away all of the fun in this for me. I enjoy hearing my wife give me a hard time about buying a soda for $1.29 just to TRY to win a $.99 song.

$1.29 + 10 cent deposit... in a grocery store. not a small one mind you, a big full size grocery store. it's ridiculous to be honest with you, as such i refuse to buy pepsi products due to the price. 12 pack (cans) costs $4.29 + $1.20 deposit... at every store in the area unless they are having a sale. pretty outrageous prices. coke isn't any better either..

 

[therevolution]

AFAIK, creating keygen programs usually involves having a copy of the software in question and, while it is processing a valid key during the install process, you look at what's going on at the instruction level in the CPU and determine what criteria it's looking for in a valid key.

Obviously, this won't work with the Pepsi codes. Only Pepsi/Apple know the algorithm being used to generate codes - could be deterministic, but it's most likely random, in which case it wouldn't even help to know it anyway.

 

[4409723]

AFAIK, creating keygen programs usually involves having a copy of the software in question and, while it is processing a valid key during the install process, you look at what's going on at the instruction level in the CPU and determine what criteria it's looking for in a valid key.

Obviously, this won't work with the Pepsi codes. Only Pepsi/Apple know the algorithm being used to generate codes - could be deterministic, but it's most likely random, in which case it wouldn't even help to know it anyway.

This is what I had been thinking. Good to have a knowledgeable post among the bickering .

 

[yg17]

Considering how Apple has my full name, address, phone number, and visa number on their servers, I dont think I'd want to even attempt using generated codes.