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would you prefer apple..

  • Reduce performance to increase battery life

    Votes: 31 25.8%
  • Optimise for performance even as battery capacity declines

    Votes: 89 74.2%

  • Total voters
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USAFA2008

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I can't believe people actually voted to reduce performance. It just proves people are isheep.
 

imagineadam

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AlexH

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Doing it they way they do it now, by throttling and not telling anyone, casts doubt across all Apple product lines. Is my macbook pro slow because it's old (outdated), needs a new battery, or because I'm pushing it too hard? Beats me, but now it's making me wonder...
I agree. I’d like to know. I’d also like a choice. Let me choose battery or performance.
 

Paddle1

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[doublepost=1513966391][/doublepost]And here's the speed in LPM.
Actually in this video the number doesn't change with LPM which suggests it is a preset number. My guess is because Geekbench 3 is older it doesn't recognize the A10 chip and it actually checks the speed. While if it is recognized it just shows what it expects it to be. That or they updated Geekbench 3 to show the correct number.

 

imagineadam

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Actually in this video the number doesn't change with LPM which suggests it is a preset number. My guess is because Geekbench 3 is older it doesn't recognize the A10 chip and it actually checks the speed. While if it is recognized it just shows what it expects it to be. That or they updated Geekbench 3 to show the correct number.

No it checks the actual speed. I've seen it fluctuate.
[doublepost=1513970144][/doublepost]It checks it when you first open the app. Sometimes I've seen it at 1.94 and 2.21ghz too which suggests the full power cores weren't fully tapped all the time.
[doublepost=1513970288][/doublepost]I think when its in LPM mode they are always switched to 1.05GHZ. That's the fastest the two low power cores can go.
 

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Paddle1

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No it checks the actual speed. I've seen it fluctuate.
Geekbench 3 doesn't actually identify the A10 so there can't be a preset. I'm wondering if when it does identify the chip if there are presets. I'll see if I can test it later.
 

Radon87000

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No it checks the actual speed. I've seen it fluctuate.
[doublepost=1513970144][/doublepost]It checks it when you first open the app. Sometimes I've seen it at 1.94 and 2.21ghz too which suggests the full power cores weren't fully tapped all the time.
[doublepost=1513970288][/doublepost]I think when its in LPM mode they are always switched to 1.05GHZ. That's the fastest the two low power cores can go.
Buy the CPU Dasher app to check the correct clockspeeds. Geekbench shows my CPU at 2.34GHZ while CPU Dasher at 2243mhz
 

imagineadam

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Buy the CPU Dasher app to check the correct clockspeeds. Geekbench shows my CPU at 2.34GHZ while CPU Dasher at 2243mhz
It's correct. I have both.
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Buy the CPU Dasher app to check the correct clockspeeds. Geekbench shows my CPU at 2.34GHZ while CPU Dasher at 2243mhz
But are you using Geekbench 3 or 4? 4 shows the same frequency every time which means it's probably preset. Geekbench 3 shows it differently sometimes which tells me it's pulling he actual speed when the app first starts.
[doublepost=1513970917][/doublepost]Here's CPU dasher speed on my 7.
 

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Radon87000

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It's correct. I have both.
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But are you using Geekbench 3 or 4? 4 shows the same frequency every time which means it's probably preset. Geekbench 3 shows it differently sometimes which tells me it's pulling he actual speed when the app first starts.
[doublepost=1513970917][/doublepost]Here's CPU dasher speed on my 7.
I am using Geekbench 4. It has never changed my speed on 4. I dunno about 3. It's no longer available on the store

My 7 Plus looks to be slightly throttled compared to your speed on iOS 11.2.5

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Sugadaddy

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Most people would get the battery replaced if it had been explained to them. But they hid the problem, refused to replace batteries even if people wanted to pay for it, and tried to sell them new phones.

Tim Crook at his finest!
 

Hieveryone

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Most people would get the battery replaced if it had been explained to them. But they hid the problem, refused to replace batteries even if people wanted to pay for it, and tried to sell them new phones.

Tim Crook at his finest!

You mean they hid this “feature” hahaha!!!
 

Sugadaddy

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I'd prefer Apple to prolong the life of my phone so that I don't get unexpected shut downs. If I was experiencing weird slowness, I would bring it in to get checked and potentially fixed, for a cost.

They would then tell you your battery passed their test and refuse to replace it even if you offered to pay for it.

You'd go back home with a slow phone, not knowing why.

If it shuts down, then you know the battery's bad. If it's slow, you don't suspect a bad battery because nobody else in the tech industry slows down their hardware based on battery capacity. Why don't they do this on iPads? Why only on iPhone 6/6S/7? (all the same defective design)
 
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KrisLord

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I just had a battery replaced on a 6.

I’d agreed to sell it for £200 but ended up paying £79 for a battery replacement prior to selling (couldn’t sell with bad battery and not feel bad)

This was a 3 year old phone, so we need to take the age of the battery and overall phone into the choices.

Most threads talk as though it’s a choice of paying £79 to get their £800 phone working again - you need to consider that it’s an old phone and your asking people to pay 40% of the value to keep it going.

That £80 is close to the upfront payment on a new contract.

I don’t have a problem at all with what Apple have done here. The only problem was the poor language in their statement.
 

DNichter

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They would then tell you your battery passed their test and refuse to replace it even if you offered to pay for it.

You'd go back home with a slow phone, not knowing why.

If it shuts down, then you know the battery's bad. If it's slow, you don't suspect a bad battery because nobody else in the tech industry slows down their hardware based on battery capacity. Why don't they do this on iPads? Why only on iPhone 6/6S/7? (all the same defective design)

... so says some random people on a forum. It must be true. If it happens to a few people, it must mean the same will happen to millions of others.
 
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Sugadaddy

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Apple said that? They said if you bring in your phone with a battery issue, they will say it's fine and refuse to replace it? I must have missed that in their statement.

That is the official policy for Geniuses in Apple Stores. If it's over 80% capacity, they won't replace it even if you want to pay for it.

So yes, Apple said that.
 
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