Thumbs down?

fischersd

macrumors 601
Original poster
Oct 23, 2014
4,556
1,303
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Heh, really, not being negative. There are people that do post inane or offensive things and it would be handy to have a thumbs down for these posts.

Maybe it could be like comment areas on newspaper sites, where if you get too many thumbs down it's hidden, with the comment in its place of "this post has been hidden due to its negative nature"? :)

Down the road, you could also put in alerts for the mods that say "hmm...this person has over 5000 negative marks on them...maybe we should look at what they're doing and ban their ass" :)

p.s. Why did we lose the "thread starter" indicator? It was handy to be able to tell which posts were from the OP. (yes, getting lazy and not creating another thread) :)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: miamialley

ardchoille50

macrumors 68020
Feb 6, 2014
2,142
1,216
Heh, really, not being negative. There are people that do post inane or offensive things and it would be handy to have a thumbs down for these posts.

Maybe it could be like comment areas on newspaper sites, where if you get too many thumbs down it's hidden, with the comment in its place of "this post has been hidden due to its negative nature"? :)

Down the road, you could also put in alerts for the mods that say "hmm...this person has over 5000 negative marks on them...maybe we should look at what they're doing and ban their ass" :)

p.s. Why did we lose the "thread starter" indicator? It was handy to be able to tell which posts were from the OP. (yes, getting lazy and not creating another thread) :)
Thumbs down systems are typically abused as a means of revenge. Being that a thumbs down vote is nothing more than an opinion, I would like to see all posts, regardless of votes, because my opinion may differ and the post in question may have what I feel is valuable content. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

My vote on a thumbs down system: nay (see what I did there?)
 
Last edited:

jbachandouris

macrumors 601
Aug 18, 2009
4,949
1,922
Upstate NY
I disagree. Sometimes I disagree with a post and if I respond with words, I may get carried away and be placed in time out. The down vote allows me to voice my displeasure safely.

Revenge? Seriously?
 
  • Like
Reactions: miamialley

ardchoille50

macrumors 68020
Feb 6, 2014
2,142
1,216
I disagree. Sometimes I disagree with a post and if I respond with words, I may get carried away and be placed in time out. The down vote allows me to voice my displeasure safely.

Revenge? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. I have served as admin on forums in the past and have watched as one user seeks revenge for something another user did. The vengeful user contacted his buddies on the forum, they got together and downvoted the post. Never underestimate the power of people in large numbers.
 

Gwendolini

macrumors 6502
Feb 5, 2015
487
100
random
Hasn't this been talked about already ad nausea? The down vote button was used properly in most cases, but there were also cases, where it has been abused, and that often led to off-topic discussions about that.
If you cannot be bothered to voice your opinion in a thoughtful manner, why voice it when you cannot do that at that time? That down voting behaviour only contributes to not thinking about perspectives clearly and leads to aggressiveness.

I know, the up voting might seem a little too dreamy eyed, but it gets rid of those +1 posts. I haven't seen that many -1 posts on many message boards, not even on YouTube.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
48,549
17,194
I disagree. Sometimes I disagree with a post and if I respond with words, I may get carried away and be placed in time out. The down vote allows me to voice my displeasure safely.

Revenge? Seriously?
Don't get carried away if you choose to reply. Or simply report the post.
 

miamialley

macrumors 68030
Jul 28, 2008
2,830
288
Orange County, California
What's the reason for removing the down vote? You don't want people to post responses that only say they disagree, but take away how they can do that most easily without posting in the thread at all? It really makes no sense. Users are only allowed to like a post, as if disagreeing or not liking a post is frowned upon?
 
  • Like
Reactions: ucfgrad93

GlenK

macrumors 6502a
Aug 1, 2013
842
256
St. Augustine, FL
I'm a member of a sports forum that has voting and it has positive and negative ratings. All that happens is people that don't even post go through there and give negative ratings constantly. They post nothing to say why they disagree or don't like posts..

If someone doesn't like or disagree with a post then quote it and say so.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
48,549
17,194
What's the reason for removing the down vote? You don't want people to post responses that only say they disagree, but take away how they can do that most easily without posting in the thread at all? It really makes no sense. Users are only allowed to like a post, as if disagreeing or not liking a post is frowned upon?
When was down voting has been here last even that it was removed?
 

Sydde

macrumors 68020
Aug 17, 2009
2,147
4,096
IOKWARDI
Bring back from what? Is this in reference to what might have been there ages ago?
When they first put in voting, for quite a while there was a down-arrow. It was all anonymous, you could never tell who was voting which way or how many votes there were, just the single sum.
 
  • Like
Reactions: miamialley

miamialley

macrumors 68030
Jul 28, 2008
2,830
288
Orange County, California
I'm a member of a sports forum that has voting and it has positive and negative ratings. All that happens is people that don't even post go through there and give negative ratings constantly. They post nothing to say why they disagree or don't like posts..

If someone doesn't like or disagree with a post then quote it and say so.
I and others do that, only to get the posts removed because they violate stupid forum rules for short/frivolous posts.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
48,549
17,194
I and others do that, only to get the posts removed because they violate stupid forum rules for short/frivolous posts.
Perhaps they should put some thought into their posts then rather than posting something pointless?
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
48,549
17,194
You don't want the down vote button, then don't use it.
Except it affects things in general even for those that don't use it. In any case, the point is that there hasn't been a down vote button for some time, with some reasoning, and it doesn't look like it has come back or the reasoning has really changed just because the forums got redesigned due to an upgrade essentially.
 

ardchoille50

macrumors 68020
Feb 6, 2014
2,142
1,216
If you bring back down-voting, it should, as up-voting is now, not be anonymous.
Another vote for this. I dislike down-vote systems, they end up being misused as a method of revenge. However, if a down-vote system is implemented, make it mimic the "Like" system in that names are publicly shown. This will help reduce incidents where some users follow others around and down-vote every post they make (yes, this does happen).
 
  • Like
Reactions: miamialley

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
48,549
17,194
Another vote for this. I dislike down-vote systems, they end up being misused as a method of revenge. However, if a down-vote system is implemented, make it mimic the "Like" system in that names are publicly shown. This will help reduce incidents where some users follow others around and down-vote every post they make (yes, this does happen).
Down voting though doesn't really say much. Great, you disagree, but the important thing is why. When you up vote that means you agree with or like what is said, it doesn't really need much of an explanation as it speaks for itself essentially, but that isn't the case with down voting, which seems like a fairly rational reason (or one of them) for not having it.
 

ardchoille50

macrumors 68020
Feb 6, 2014
2,142
1,216
Down vote though doesn't really say much. Great, you disagree, but the important thing is why. When you up vote that means you agree or like what is said, it doesn't really need much of an explanation as it speaks for itself essentially, but that isn't the case with down voting, which seems like a fairly rational reason (or one of them) for not having it.
I agree completely. Your point is further evidence that down-vote systems are counterproductive.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mr. Retrofire

Sydde

macrumors 68020
Aug 17, 2009
2,147
4,096
IOKWARDI
Down voting though doesn't really say much. Great, you disagree, but the important thing is why.
Then the obvious solution would be a down-vote-pop-up that would require you to make a selection from options like "offensive", "inane", "incorrect", "stupid" and maybe 2 or 3 others, which would be reflected publicly as "Phnurg, L1011b: incorrect post" or something like that. Then maybe a collapse-post function for 25+ in one category.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
48,549
17,194
Then the obvious solution would be a down-vote-pop-up that would require you to make a selection from options like "offensive", "inane", "incorrect", "stupid" and maybe 2 or 3 others, which would be reflected publicly as "Phnurg says this is incorrect" or something like that
Most of those seem to be related to what a post should actually be reported for instead of downvoted. As reporting a post for most of those things is the better option it should be taken instead of having the option to downvote it and likely not report it as well.

The only one that doesn't quite fit would be along the lines of "incorrect" in which case you would hope someone points out why something is incorrect and actually provide correct information then. In which case, again, downvoting would lead someone to omit that and make for a poorer discussion because of it in most instances (as incorrect information wouldn't be specifically pointed out and corrected).
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.