Because when Apple releases the latest iPhone, iPad, iWhatever, you go and pick up the cases, sleeves, covers, etc. that fit the newest design.
People have begun to expect accessories to be available at launch.
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Because when Apple releases the latest iPhone, iPad, iWhatever, you go and pick up the cases, sleeves, covers, etc. that fit the newest design.
People have begun to expect accessories to be available at launch.
Incorrect about eSATA, eSATA is slower then SATA and thunderbolt is faster then SATA.
except for the fact that light peak was not done until near release time. It was originally supposed to use the same connector as usb for backwards compatibility, but USB-IF said they were not going to allow this because they didn't want usb to be modified.
How can peripheral manufacturers implement a technology that they don't know how it connects or what types of chipsets to use, etc?
So basically you are saying apple should have released the macbooks with no thunderbolt and then let other companies make accessories for it first, then implemented the thunderbolt port in next years macbook pro refresh right?
I don't understand why people are complaining about having this port on their computers.... if you guys just thought about it for a second it makes perfect sense why nothing exists for it yet.... apple implemented it basically right after the tech was finalized, there was no time to let others build accessories for it unless they wanted to wait until next years macbooks to add the port.
yeah a drive that can transfer bi-directionally at 10Gb/s isn't exciting at all... people should want a usb 3.0 drive that is only half that speed..
Correct. I'm not excited about an overpriced single offering from one company that I will probably not use within the lifespan of my 2011 MBP.
That's great, but I can't get one yet and I'm not willing to spend the money on the one offering that's been announced. On the contrary, I have a USB 3.0 drive that I'm stuck using at USB2.0 speed.
Not sure where you came up with that idea, but no, I don't think anyone thinks that way.
Which is exactly why it would be nice to have USB3.0 now. Having USB 2.0 and Thundebolt is like having a VHS player and a non-backwards compatible Blu-ray player while all the movies were still coming out on DVD.
eSATA is basically SATA with a different plug. With the same controller it is as fast. You use eSATA for HDDs and for those all you need is 150 or max 300 MB/s because you will hardly run more than some raid system. Thunderbolt would be no faster. I doubt anybody uses a Vertex 3 for external data storage.
With this reasoning there is nothing faster than eSATA. I didn't say it is the fastest IO thingy available.
like i said, more drives will be available, the tech was released 2 months ago and we will have more options shortly... also the reason the lacie is so expensive is because it uses SSD's
usb 3.0 is not supported on SNB so apple couldn't have implemented it with thunderbolt... keep whining. Also there is more than one offering in the pipeline
then why are you complaining that there is nothing available yet? Give it a few months
Well considering apple helped develop lightpeak, of course they are going to implement it over usb 3.0... they had to chose one or the other, you want usb 3.0 wait for Ivy Bridge.
Also, terrible analogy... they wanted to make lightpeak/tb backwards compatible and use the same connector as usb, however the great minds at USB-IF denied that, so maybe you should blame them
Apple couldn't implement it, or Apple made the choice not to implement it using a third-party solution? Distinct difference...
I'm not complaining that nothing is available yet. I'm complaining that we are stuck in limbo between sucky old technology and cool new technology that is completely useless as of today.
It shocks me how dense the fanboys are. Thunderbolt may be great, but it's worthless today. USB may be dieing technology, but it's infinitely more useful today than Thunderbolt is. You fanboys can keep praising Thunderbolt all you want, but the bottom line is that USB3.0 would be infinitely more useful TODAY, than a high speed port that you can conceivably use sometime next year. In the software world, we call that 'vaporware'. I'll get excited about it when I can actually use it and not just have fanboys telling me how great it is GOING to be.
the chipset for usb 3.0 is not included in sandy bridge. There is also no built in chipset for thunderbolt so apple had to decide which chipset to add. Apple helped Intel develop thunderbolt... pretty natural that they would chose the thunderbolt chipset over usb 3.0
Ivy bridge will have the usb 3.0 chipsets built in
I'm not a fanboy but good try... if you understood how it all worked you would see why apple chose thunderbolt over usb 3.0. It may suck in your opinion right now, but the tech has to be introduced eventually. Why would apple help develop lightpeak and then chose to support usb 3.0 instead?
And complaining about being stuck between the technologies means you are complaining that nothing is available. You are basically saying if a thunderbolt drive was available now you wouldn't complain because you wouldn't be stuck between usb 2.0 and thunderbolt...
Also thunderbolt is useful today... you can plug displays into it... it's not as if apple took anything away from you to add the feature.
As I've said, thunderbolt came out 2 months ago, also it will be used for drives in the next several weeks, not years...
I completely understand why Apple did what they did. It doesn't mean I like it. You may not consider yourself a fanboy, but you're celebrating vaporware like a turtleneck wearing Jobs drone.
I would have no complaints if a TB to USB3 adapter was available now, or if drives were showing up on the market with USB3.0 & TB ports side by side so I could use the drive on all of my machines.
If vaporware becomes hardware within the next several weeks, it won't be something your average user will run down to Best Buy and pick up. I give it years before it's as prevalent as Firewire, which still pales in comparison to USB in acceptance despite it's perceived advantages. I'd be willing to bet that it'll be at least another year before you can get in the same ballpark as USB, price-wise, and probably a couple more before it has a chance to catch up with USB in acceptance (if it ever does).
celebrating vaporware? I'm just telling you how it is... apple can't support usb 3.0 so stop whining about it. They made your nice little mDP also compatible with thunderbolt so that when drives do start to appear you can use them and won't have to replace your entire computer to take advantage... still don't understand why you think it's vaporware
jesus i give up... GIVE IT SOME TIME, how did you expect there to be drives available on day 1 unless apple delayed the refresh of the macbook pros until summer... surely that would be more upsetting to people than a display port that will double as thunderbolt...
your common sense is quite astoundingWhy are you under the impression that it's going to be more costly? It's a connector... when thunderbolt hard drives are available they aren't going to be more costly than any other form of storage. What makes the Lacie drive so expensive (i'm assuming this is the one you are complaining about the price) is because it uses SSD's in RAID 1.... if you bought a usb 3.0 drive with SSD's instead of a spinning hard drive it's going to cost you just as much... you are paying for the storage, not the method of connection to the computer.