Thunderbolt Enclosure setup?

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  1. InquisitiveAmI macrumors member

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    Hi all ,
    You might have seen my recent post on whats the point of thunderbolt for my new macbook pro and I came to the conclusion that what was clear for my new macbook pro( 2.8ghz intel i7 , 16gb RAM , 128gb ) it needed a BIG storage bump for my needs(Xcode,Photoshop,Unity)
    I decided that for starters I'd like to make my own thunderbolt enclosure by choosing the samsung 840 pro 512gb SSD for a start.
    My idea was to use that and a GoFlex thunderbolt portable adapter but I ran into some problems.
    a) 512gb SSD is great for speed but I'd like a 1tb backup aswell.
    b) Goflex thunderbolt adapter does not have the correct battery potential for something as serious as a samsung 840 pro to run

    This left me thinking that I need a enclosure which plugs into the mains and also maybe a dual enclosure could be better.

    Does anyone know for a start where I could find a good sub 300 thunderbolt enclosure (single or dual)

    And any ideas if dual for a sort of fusion setup?

    Many thanks
     
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    I've got an old OCZ Vertex2 120GB GB and a newer OCZ Vertex4 260GB. No RAID since these disks are part of my Time Machine back-up.

    The Vertex4 gets about 400MB read/write while the older Vertex2 only gets about 125MB read/write.

    Good enough for normal storage.

    I'm sure the samsung will be faster.
     
  5. InquisitiveAmI thread starter macrumors member

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    Sounds good. With the enclosure you suggested + samsung ssd and maybe seagate 1tb 7200rpm would that be a good fusion drive setup?
     
  6. InquisitiveAmI thread starter macrumors member

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    Quick update: I don't think I can use the neutrino as can't ship to UK plus the fan sound is unconvincing .
    Any other dual enclosures?
     
  7. Barney63 macrumors 6502a

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    You could get any of these and just open it up and change the drive.

    Barney
     
  8. g4cube macrumors 6502a

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    Check out Amazon UK. Simple search will yield a source. Your won't like the price though.
     
  9. Barney63 macrumors 6502a

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    Why not use USB 3?
    USB 3 is 5Gb/s and your SATA 3 SSD will only be 6Gb/s hardly any difference.

    Barney

    edit:
    Here are some tests with TB and USB3 on an SSD
     
  10. hfg macrumors 68040

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    You can't enable "Trim" on a USB 3 interface to your SSD as you can with a Thunderbolt interface.
     
  11. InquisitiveAmI thread starter macrumors member

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    To be honest I'd much rather make you of my thunderbolt port.
    As per trying to find a duel bay .I reckon I could get these for sub 300-200
    Startech dual drive
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00IFZN842
    Or the other one which was recommended to me above.If anyone has these enclosures or knows anything about them could you please give me as much info as possible.

    My other idea was I could go down the single route form a setup with:

    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backu...F8&qid=1396599862&sr=1-1&keywords=thunderbolt
    and my samsung SSD

    and then add
    http://www.amazon.com/G-Technology-...e=UTF8&qid=1396600593&sr=1-1&keywords=7200rpm

    which looks like the only other decent 7200rpm portable hard drive
     
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  13. g4cube macrumors 6502a

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    Except for a different front panel, the Startech looks almost identical to the Akitio.
     
  14. hfg, Apr 4, 2014
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    I have used the dual Thunderbolt enclosures from LaCie "Little Big Disk" Thunderbolt powered drives available as "refurbished" from MacMall. I also have a Akitio and it performs well, but is twice the size.

    You can remove one or both of the hard disks (sell or repurpose them) and replace with your 2.5" SSDs. The disks appear as 2 separate disks and can be RAID-0, RAID-1, or Fusion using Disk Utility (and Terminal for Fusion). These refurb units don't seem to be as fast as the expensive new SSD models, possibly due to hard-disk optimized firmware in them (I looked up the SATA controllers in them and they did appear to be SATA-III parts). They perform well enough for my usage and are quite small. I do unplug the fan when only using SSDs in them for less noise.

    Here are results with Crucial M4 SSDs installed RAID-0:
     

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    Here are the test results for the Akiti dual Thunderbolt enclosure with a RAID-0 pair of Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSDs installed:
     

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  16. InquisitiveAmI thread starter macrumors member

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    That looks like exactly what I want!
    Could you tell me where you got it refurb from?
     
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    MacMall sells refurbished LaCie ... items come and go quickly so they may not have stock on the day you check, but check back often.

    Currently, LaCie has some for sale:

    http://www.lacie.com/products/clearance/products/?id=10007

    $180 for a LittleBigDisk with 2 500GB 7200rpm hard disks (1TB RAID-0). They also show a SSD model at a higher price. I have also bought several of the 1TB "Rugged" portable drive and replaced the disk with a SSD (which boots Windows on a Mac easily).

    This came up in the Google search:
    http://9to5toys.com/2013/03/22/laci...efurb-now-up-to-63-off-1tb-164-99-2tb-219-99/
     
  18. InquisitiveAmI thread starter macrumors member

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    I can get a good deal on ebay for only 179 so I've bought that
    And so all I really need to do is buy a pair of drives
    I definetly getting the samsung ssd 512
    But should I get a pair of those or a 10000 rpm velociraptor still in RAID 0 together

    Or maybe even the brand new Intel 730?
     
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  20. g4cube macrumors 6502a

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    Based on other threads and comments, probably the Samsung Pro or EVT SSD devices.
     
  21. SaSaSushi macrumors 68040

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    I'm using (and recommend) the Delock 42490 2.5" single drive Thunderbolt enclosure. I posted benchmarks of it up against my Inateck UASP enclosure here. The best news is that the price has dropped considerably. It was $108 on Amazon and now seems to be available for $82.50.

    The enclosure is AC-powered. I've got a 512GB Samsung 840 EVO installed and am booting from it. Incidentally, if you're planning on using 500GB+ anything, especially an 840 Pro, I'd highly recommend avoiding any bus-powered options like the Seagate GoFlex adapter.

    I mention it only because you also asked about any sub-$300 single drive enclosures. Obviously, if you are looking for RAID or pass-through, the Delock wouldn't be for you.
     
  22. MrX8503 macrumors 68000

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    Thanks for the recommendation. Is there anything out there that can power a 500GB SSD via bus? Why isn't this a problem with mechanical drives?
     
  23. matreya macrumors 65816

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    I bought one of these, ripped out the hard drive and put a 750GB Samsung 840 EVO into it, and it works perfectly off the TB bus.

    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other World Computing/MOTGTBH5T1.0/
     
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  25. matreya macrumors 65816

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    I ran BlackMagic SpeedTest and got 400 MB/sec read, 360 MB/sec write.
     

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