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Thunderbolt JBoD with 5x SATAIII 6Gb/s - Just about time

FireWire2

FireWire2

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Finally, it looks like someone has made exactly what I need. A tray-less 5-bay Thunderbolt JBoD enclosure.

Thunderbolt to 5x hot swap SATAIII (6Gb) independent drives

It seems this is the only one in the market. It is $469.

This seems to be good solution for the JBoD mode, that is what i need for my app

I'm curious if anyone has experience with this. Or am I going to have to be the guinea pig?
 
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propower

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^^^^^^ shipping end of Nov.
post back when you get it and let us know how it works!
 
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riahi

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Hey Firewire2, nice find. When I was looking at the website I was curious if this was a 2x thunderbolt enclosure or only a single port. I used the support-chat feature on the site, and the agent told me they forgot to put the option up for 2x thunderbolt ports. Looks like it's $139.95 for the dual thunderbolt option.

I wanted to make sure you knew that your enclosure was most likely only going to have 1 thunderbolt port.
 
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FireWire2

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riahi said:
Hey Firewire2, nice find. When I was looking at the website I was curious if this was a 2x thunderbolt enclosure or only a single port. I used the support-chat feature on the site, and the agent told me they forgot to put the option up for 2x thunderbolt ports. Looks like it's $139.95 for the dual thunderbolt option.

I wanted to make sure you knew that your enclosure was most likely only going to have 1 thunderbolt port.
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Thank for the post
Call them and make sure, my box will be a 2x Thunderbolt ports
They will ship me 2x Thunderbolt ports with an $139.00 upgrade
 
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leifp

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waste of money to add Thunderbolt to JBoD

Greetings. I posted a similar response to a similar dilemma on my way here...

Thunderbolt is wasted on a HDD JBoD setup.

If you want a faster external system, switch to RAID. RAID 5 is the best compromise - faster than mirroring, safer than striping, lets you have more storage space than either. RAID 10 (or 01 if you prefer - at 4 drives it doesn't matter) is faster and safer than RAID 5, but you lose storage. e.g. 4x1TB RAID 10 = 2TB available. 4x1TB RAID 5 = 2.7TB available. Choose your poison. Of course, switching from a JBoD system to a RAID system is much more expensive. But when you've copied over your files, you can sell your JBoD system including HDD. And you will notice a massive difference.

But I would not waste my money moving a JBoD to Thunderbolt. The difference in speed is not sufficient to make up for the hassle and the cost. Specifics: most 7200 rpm HDD (regardless of SATA variant - it is the HDD and not the interface that is the limiting element) max out around 156MB/s. You'll almost never achieve that, certainly not in a JBoD setup. In my own RAID 5 system I hit near 500MB/s on Thunderbolt. Regularly. Up to you, of course.
 
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leifp said:
Greetings. I posted a similar response to a similar dilemma on my way here...

Thunderbolt is wasted on a HDD JBoD setup.

If you want a faster external system, switch to RAID. RAID 5 is the best compromise - faster than mirroring, safer than striping, lets you have more storage space than either. RAID 10 (or 01 if you prefer - at 4 drives it doesn't matter) is faster and safer than RAID 5, but you lose storage. e.g. 4x1TB RAID 10 = 2TB available. 4x1TB RAID 5 = 2.7TB available. Choose your poison. Of course, switching from a JBoD system to a RAID system is much more expensive. But when you've copied over your files, you can sell your JBoD system including HDD. And you will notice a massive difference.

But I would not waste my money moving a JBoD to Thunderbolt. The difference in speed is not sufficient to make up for the hassle and the cost. Specifics: most 7200 rpm HDD (regardless of SATA variant - it is the HDD and not the interface that is the limiting element) max out around 156MB/s. You'll almost never achieve that, certainly not in a JBoD setup. In my own RAID 5 system I hit near 500MB/s on Thunderbolt. Regularly. Up to you, of course.
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Sort of agree, but there are different application for JBOD.
1- Near-line backup - A 20TB backup space (Using Span mode in DU)
2- Time machine back up from Monday to Friday - 5x drives
3- Off site Archive hot swap - weekly rotation.

Thank you for your suggested - Since I still waiting til 11/20.

I reconsider the newer model tRAID-T2, which offers JBOD and/or RAID5
http://www.datoptic.com/ec/dual-thunderbolt-raid-with-5x-sata-bay-for-mac-and-windows.html

Thinking set it up as
4x HDD RAID5 - #1 to #4 drives
1x Hot Swap Drives - Weekly Archive rotation back up

Currently offer $130.00 off as Introduction instant discount. I have to make up my mind within 2 days.

But that is $200.00 different!!!! $399.55 vs 599.95

Oppss correction only $70.00 different! TB JBOD with Duat TB is 539.90 not $399.00

Switched.
 
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riahi

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Hey Firewire2, how did you get the dual TB RAID drive for $599? It's showing as $729 for the RAID version with two thunderbolt ports....


NEVERMIND: Found that on checkout there is a $130 discount that effectively pays for the TB upgrade.
 
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propower

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Does any one have any experience with Datoptic???

Seems other choices have a lot more history --
 
d0nK

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leifp said:
Thunderbolt is wasted on a HDD JBoD setup.
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No it's not if you have a late 2011 mbp like me and require access to many drives.

The bandwidth of TB will allow access to multiple drives at once with little drop in speed.
A long as I can access multiple hard drives at their rated speed without an interface throttle (i.e. Thunderbolt) I'm very happy (as happy as I can be with having to use external hard drives).

I do audio work and graphics.

USB 2.0 is out of the question.

Daisy-chain TB is also required for an external display.

I will get an iMac at some point and then I will still require a JBOD.
 
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FireWire2

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tRAID-T2

Just came back from Thailand - Nice little vacation
The tRAID-T2 is in the house - That is a good sight.
Play with it a little bit - nice LCD touch screen to

Will use it post the result later, so far it looks good.

If anyone wants to know a specific feature please let me know
I will try to get the it for you, but don't' expect fast respond! cuz have to pay the mortgage 1st :)
 
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FireWire2

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tRAID-T2 Thunderbolt RAID5/10 hot spare

JoeTheZombie said:
I'd specifically like to hear your opinion on noise levels.
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It's over a month at work, we can't even tell it there. It's super quite and fast I can get it 245~265MB/s

I will update with screen shot
 
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