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You will gain speed, save money or even better go Raid 0 and double the speed but half the storage count ?

RAID 0 doesn't reduce storage size, it's just striping. You've probably meant RAID 1, but it doesn't increase speed - it's used just for redundancy.
 
I restored a rMBP from a thunderbolt (raid) SSD and it was crazy fast.

Thunderbolt rules.
 
Looks really good but I'm now convinced on constructinng my own thunderbolt ssd drive. Anyone know a cheap setup with thunderbolt enclosure and ssd under 400?
 
RAID 0 doesn't reduce storage size, it's just striping. You've probably meant RAID 1, but it doesn't increase speed - it's used just for redundancy.

Hmm, confused my "0's and 1's" !

Raid 0 = speed increase / no safety copy
Raid 1 = Double copy / 1/2 the amount of storage .... effectively .

M.

TB Enclosures are NOT cheap !
Might be better to look for deals on the the larger Lacie/ G-Tech TB drives.

EDIT: I just ordered a 1Tb 7200rpm bare drive to go in my Lacie rugged TB
box ... will improve performance a bit !!
 
Maybe a setup with http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006P1QWOQ?pc_redir=1396238934&robot_redir=1#immersive-view_1396446698555
And a Samsung SSD?
 
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TB can be convenient for a one cable docking solution, where all your peripherals are connected to a TB dock, and there is one cable connected to the rMBP. When you want to go mobile, disconnect one cable and go.

Thanks a lot for mentioning this. I considered buying a MBP and was totally turned off by the fact, that it only had 2 USB ports. I need 2 of them permanently (mouse, internet stick) and a third one for external HD, Backup/printer/USB stick (basically a port for "random use"), so it would be a pain to work if I had only 2 of them.

I wondered where all the people plug in their external hardware and - bum - there you say it: the "Thunderbolt Dock". I didn't know such a one existed until I read your post. I thought I'd have to buy a common USB dock. But then I saw your comment about "1" connection with the TB and read up on it: unbelievable, but ALL PLUGS MISSING IN THE MBP EXIST ON THE THUNDERBOLT DOCK, which is Ethernet, Microphone, USB, etc. And you can connect it to the Macbook altogether by 1 single wire. All of them! Great!

Now this is kinda awesome, because it's a convenient all-in-one solution - but also kinda sad: it basically forces me to additionally buy a thunderbolt dock when I decide to be a MBP user. I am bit conservative in these regards: I keep looking back to the MPB 17" and even consider buying a refurbished one (however can't find them anymore) because of the simple fact, that it had DVD, Ethernet, 3 USB... all in one - and now: now you are forcefully pushed towards becoming a different user: a user that needs to buy a TB dock station to be complete. A user who has a whole lot of cables on his tables (which is ugly, regardless of the colors: silver, black, white cables, all hanging around and stuffed on your desk. I hate it on the former clean desk :mad:).

If you are like me and changing your workplace location multiple times per year, you are likely to be annoyed by the fact, that you should buy an additional box to get your productivity done, as well as dragging the additional box with you every time time. It's like Apple only wants us to do "web surfing" while the MBP is undocked. Ridiculous. I bet - if they could - they would give us only a tablet or a MacBook Air and ditch the whole Macbook Pro series because: "these small screens are not up to the task for productive working anyways - so we just assume they connect these to an external screen at the specific working place. No need for 13" or 15" anymore either."
 
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I have the Belkin TB Dock and it's proving to be quite useful.
Has TB / FW800 / 3x USB3.0 / Ethernet and Audio I/O

Pretty soon they won't sell drives at all .... "we want your data in the cloud"
they could be illegal .... like Music disks in "The Matrix" .... follow the white
rabbit !!

M.:D
 
I need Thunderbolt to connect my Retina Macbook with a 4k-Display.
Goodbye visible pixels...
 
If you have a external monitor (not a TV), for best video performance you plug the mini display port cable to one of the TB ports.

Here's a somewhat related question. I'm upgrading to a rMBP sometime this week (whenever it gets here) from a 2010 MBP that I connect to my (I believe) VGA monitor. Will the adaptor that works in my mini DVI port on my 2010 MBP work in the thunderbolt port? Or do I need a different adaptor? And yes, my monitor is old :p. On the other hand, it's old enough it still uses the old aspect ratio where it wasn't as wide which I prefer for computer use and reading documents and such (my roommate gripes about monitors today).
 
I don't really see the problem. The TB port can be any port you want it to be with the right adapter.

That's what I thought. I bought both the Gigabit Ethernet adapter and the FireWire adapter. Then I realized how much I hated using them. Two more cables to connect/disconnect and the short, stiff cables prevent you from getting the adapters and connectors out of sight. It made a mess of the left side of my rMBP.

I found a much better solution was to use a single cable to connect to a USB 3.0 hub. A $20 adapter gets gigabit ethernet into the hub and, since my Firewire drive also has eSATA, I can use another $20 eSATA adapter to connect that drive to the hub. Of course, the hub is already needed to connect some other hard drives, Blu-ray drive, etc.

Thunderbolt might actually be pretty nice if affordable TB hubs were available. However, I just don't see this happening any time soon (if at all).
 

That's a dock, not a ThunderBolt hub. It just has one TB input and one TB output. I would like to see something that looks like a USB hub with 4-8 ports. This might not be important if most TB devices supported daisy-chaining like most FireWire devices did. However, every TB drive I have seen only provides one port.
 
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That's a dock, not a ThunderBolt hub. It just has one TB input and one TB output. I would like to see something that looks like a USB hub with 4-8 ports. This might not be important if most TB devices supported daisy-chaining like most FireWire devices did. However, every TB drive I have seen only provides one port.

Thunderbolt is like a PCE bus interface extension. There are two buses in a cable. The connection is point to point from motherboard to PCE type device address. There is no such thing as a hub concept in PCE, but you can daisy chain of the bus if the device provides pass through capability. I've seen few hard drives do this but most RAID or multidrive enclosures do.

There are also "expansion" boxes that hold a PCE card (or equivalent) that interfaces to a number of components, this is what you typically find in one of these docks. They are like a PCE card you slide into a computer that has a number of interfaces.
 
That's a dock, not a ThunderBolt hub. It just has one TB input and one TB output. I would like to see something that looks like a USB hub with 4-8 ports. This might not be important if most TB devices supported daisy-chaining like most FireWire devices did. However, every TB drive I have seen only provides one port.

The Belkin Thunderbolt dock gives you the following with a single cable at $199.95.

One Gigabit Ethernet port
One FireWire 800 port
One Thunderbolt port
One 3.5 mm headphone output Jack
One 3.5 mm audio Input Jack
Three USB 3.0 ports
 
/Trollmode on

That's correct. Belkin is an awesome multipurpose docking station, but in the end your desk is full of **** cables hanging all around. Because the notebook shall have nothing on it, but a display and a keyboard.

The next generation MBP has only 1 thunderbolt port and at max 1 USB slot, nothing else, because "who needs an external mouse on the go?" Professional users will use multipurpose docking stations anyways, as well as an external monitor, external HD, external DVD drive, external LAN port, separate audio/microphone ports, etc. Wherever you go - make sure you carry a box of these utensils with you to remain the "Pro" you used to be.

/Trollmode off
 
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