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Tibook vs wintel portables

Rower_CPU, drop the TiBook hard drive to the 30GB (instead of the 48GB model) and the price comes out to $2399 (w/o Airport card, $2498 with it). You can always use the 6-pin FireWire port on the TiBook to add gobs of storage later, as you need it.

To get the same functionality as in the TiBook with the Sony, you have to use the slimdock. You still have a smaller screen.

Just shows all the dia-hard peecee weenies that Apple does have better hardware and pricing then comprable peecee's. :D

Mac's rule, peecee's drool....
 
That's true Alpha, I could've specced it a little differently....
Point is that that's the LOW-END TiBook and it's better than the high-end Vaio. PCs don't even come close! :D
 
Rower_CPU, true... and the TiBook is about 10x easier to use, and work on when it needs it. I don't even want to think about how adding RAM into the Vaio would happen. Can't be as easy as on the TiBook :D. The Sony unit might have the processor speed numbers, but that is about all... We all know how pee 3's rate compared to a G4 anyways :D.
 
no way! the POWERBOOK G4, but it is no way as expandible as most pc laptops, I was able upgrade cpu's on dell laptops (even from one generation pii processor to a piii) memory HDD and even a video card (only on a dell inspiron 8000 series and up and the latitude equivlent).
 
Originally posted by AlphaTech


Been there, done that, got no reply from the mag/rag. They had a review of OSX (10.0.3 I think). It was after 10.1 was out for over a month. The way they made it sound, what they were reviewing was the very latest. I called them on it, but got no where. I checked the next few issues (at the store, didn't buy them), and they didn't print any retractions/corrections at all.

Those bastards... I bet they killed Kenny too.
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I got a reply (the same day)from them saying that they also give compliments to Apple from time to time.
I will ask them if they need somebody to write about Apple:D , because it looks like they go like:
hey that' a cool lookin' unit, but what does it do?
Better not touch it, we might just fall in love with it!:p
I would like for them to handle the Tibook as all the others, comparing them, not just a separate column saying that it is a good looking machine and then pricetag. that is scaring people telling them not to buy it. Heck that's just false publicity!

Those bastards, killin' Kenny, that is just plain murder:D
So who's next, it might even be chef!
 
Geert, I vote that they kill Cartman next... of course Butters needs to go soon too, and bring Kenny back to life :D. He must be in therapy with all the times he has died and such... Either that, or he is vacationing in Hell again :D, just like the movie.
 
BTW-

We recently just got a Sony VIAO laptop at compusa that has a 16 inch lcd screen. So no longer is the TiBook king of the screens. The VAIO isn't widescreen, which is too bad, but I'm guessing the thing weighs about 15lbs!! (haven't seen it yet)

-Pete
 
I just looked at the compusa site and found the one you are talking about... 1.8" thick, and about 8-1/2 pounds. Talk about an anchor, sheeesh. It only has 10/100 ethernet, and spec's out a 2 to 2-1/2 hour battery life (how much less under real use???).

The ONLY good parts that I see on it are the PC2100 memory and the 32MB Radeon 7500 video.

I wonder what Apple's answer to that will be :D.
 
Whatever the answer may be, I hope it comes REAL soon. I'm going absolutely crazy waiting for the new Powerbook to be announced.

It'll be my first Mac ever and I can't stop thinking about it. UNIX with a nice interface, that's almost too much to believe!

My big hopes are for a faster FSB and an GeForce4 Mobile card. Superdrive I really couldn't care less about, I'll keep to renting my DVDs instead of making my own :)
 
Originally posted by ptrauber
BTW-

We recently just got a Sony VIAO laptop at compusa that has a 16 inch lcd screen. So no longer is the TiBook king of the screens. The VAIO isn't widescreen, which is too bad, but I'm guessing the thing weighs about 15lbs!! (haven't seen it yet)

-Pete
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the thing is completely awesome...the screen is as wide as the tibook but i would say about 10 percent taller so you can get 16 inches instead of 15.2 inches

the thing is heavy so it is not what i would call portable but a desktop replacement...tibook is portable

that 16 inch screen is the equivalent of a 17 inch crt so it is almost the same as some graphic designer's home systems...not until there is a laptop with a 20 inch screen will the newspaper and catalog designers have an "equal" to their 21 inch crt monitors...they often need to see two pages side by side and have the type relativily big to see (a smaller micron process will allow for much smaller batteries and the use of glass in lcds has been replaced by plastic not to mention smaller laptop components...so we will see increasingly larger lcd displays thru the years until we will no longer have to suffer with towers, mini towers, or even micro towers)

such a laptop would weigh nine or ten pounds but would completely "replace" a graphics desktop workstation (with the assumption that the lcd gets its color calibration down to at leat 6 delta units of accuracy...but they are close)

note: in 1997, many 12.1 inch lcd screen laptops were nine pounds and they were considered portable by industry standards

my early 1999 compaq presario with a 12.1 inch lcd weighs over seven and a half pounds (without adapter) and with a better battery (LiIon), the laptop is eight pounds...so it is all relative

:D
 
Originally posted by Baseline
Whatever the answer may be, I hope it comes REAL soon. I'm going absolutely crazy waiting for the new Powerbook to be announced.

It'll be my first Mac ever and I can't stop thinking about it. UNIX with a nice interface, that's almost too much to believe!

My big hopes are for a faster FSB and an GeForce4 Mobile card. Superdrive I really couldn't care less about, I'll keep to renting my DVDs instead of making my own :)
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I'm not going crazy, I'm already there :D...

As for the dimensions of the Sony laptop, it is 1.8" thick, 14" wide, and 11.5 deep. Compared to Apple's TiBook of 1" thin, 13.4 wide, and 9.5" deep weighing in at 5.4 pounds (about 3 pounds lighter then the Sony). The display on the Sony is taller, not all that much wider, so the wide screen format is not there.

I would rather see the new Mobile Radeon 7500 or 7800, with either 32MB or 64MB of video memory, in the next set of TiBooks then the GF chipset.

Imagine Apple's answer... a laptop with a 22" LCD :D. Or two lines of TiBook, one with a 17" and the other with the 22"... As Cartman has been known to say... "kick a$$" :D
 
We'll be moving well past the realm of laptops with 17" - 22" displays...
They would be better suited for true desktop replacement as all-in-one machines, especially if they get the Superdrive.

Hmmm...all of a sudden the PowerBook is competing with the iMac!
 
you're welcome

i am not a demi-god because my wife seriously hates the time i put into macrumors.com:(

and the idea of buying a thirty dollar mug...yikes!
 
Yeah, my girlfriend puts up with me to varying degrees...
But I figure $30 is a small enough price to pay to support a site I get so much out of!
 
Re: Sony comes close...

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
TiBook - larger display, more storage, more bandwidth, lighter and thinner when similarly configured, and longer battery life with standard equipment

VAIO - Center Jog Dial Control, Memory Stick...a little bit cheaper...
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Heh. And for a few bucks more, I put a Memory Stick reader in my PC Card slot. :)
 
Re: Re: Sony comes close...

Originally posted by Gelfin


Heh. And for a few bucks more, I put a Memory Stick reader in my PC Card slot. :)
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But who would actually need that??? Considering how virtually all digital camera's (those that are worth a damn) come with USB or (in the rare cases) FireWire connections. I would rather spend nothing extra and just plug the camera in to download images then to spend extra money to do it. Also, I believe that some cameras come with media readers that are also platform independant.

With the TiBook, you get better bang for your bucks.
 
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