When people gets older their listening capabilities degrades anyway. A few hear a difference, and others don’t, but at the end of the line i don‘t think it worth 20$ for normal usage.
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Tidal's iOS App Gains Masters Quality Audio Support
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I guess that that'll be why they said you need a wired connection.
The best you'll get from an iPhone wirelessly is 320k AAC over Bluetooth 5; FLAC will be transcoded. And the sound quality varies widely by implementation. The iFi xDSD and Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless are the two best I've heard so far.
Tidal HiFi is absolutely worth it. (Spotify Premium, however, is so bad I can't listen to it.) I can tell the difference between 320k MP3 and lossless 90% of the time on my gear. It makes a difference to those who care.
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No, the Apple adapter is not MQA certified and will not play masters. Tidal HiFi lossless (FLAC) will sound great on the SE535 using the Apple adapter, though.
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Well it says “with the appropriate hardware” which means an external DAC that can convert high quality audio signals.
You don’t need an external DAC to get signal quality beyond 16-bit from an iPhone. And no DAC on the market is able to spit signals that remotely approach 24/44 quality.
There are plenty of dedicated DACs that actually test worse than an iPhone, meaning they are even less ‘hi-res’.
If you’re not listening to signals with 120dB of recorded dynamic range at 120db, it doesn’t matter if your phone or other source can output 14-bit.
I tested my listening volume. It is between 80-85 decibels with a headphone and a bit less with earphones that isolate the outside.
That’s like 13-bit. Playing back MQA files is only part of the equation. Bandwidth is only part. Loudness wars are only part. Headphone and other output quality is only part. DAC capability is only part.
In the end, even if all your other ducks are aligned, you have to be listening at pre-amped volumes capable of resolving the theoretical benefits of 24-bit before there’s anything even remotely ‘better’ let alone ‘hi-res’ About any of it.
I think you are trying to duck the issue. On the other hand, it was a pretty stupid post on my part.
Wow, the quality is so good, you can hear the derp pushing buttons on the beat maker. Aside from like, Bowie and the Beetles, there's literally nothing there that anyone would want to hear come straight from the masters.
Also note, I do not like the Beetles.
Also note, I do not like the Beetles.
Should be a good thing. a step in the right direction. I might even check and see if it is worthwhile some day. Maybe Apple will bring higher Rez in the future too.
I have a question, does the high quality of sound can be heard on the headphones that come with the iphone? or do I need special ones and another question does the high quality sound work on any bluetooth headphones?
1. EarPods are not capable of rendering high-quality audio in any perceivable way: look for a good pair of IEMs or high-end headphones if that's what you're after.
2. MQA is not supported without a wired DAC but there are many other ways to improve audio quality using Tidal HiFi's FLAC and a good pair of headphones or IEMs.
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High res audio isn’t like photography or videography where you get more lines and therefore image clarity.
Every improvement is based in decibels or voltage, and measured against established theoretical limits. Technically, no Bluetooth system has the bandwidth to even cover uncompressed 16 but audio, so to enjoy the higher resolution audio* you’d need wired headphones.
But technically, enjoying hi-res would mean you need to listen to theoretically perfect recordings at volumes the ear isn’t designed or able to listen to without sustaining immediate and permanent hearing loss.
I resolution audio isn’t like 4K. The eye and the ear are different. One susses light from darkness. One susses noise from silence. All technology aimed at either organ has to play to the demands of the organ. Unless you listen to music at volumes that will cause you to not be able to hear differences between noise and silence you won’t benefit from high res audio. Ergo, it is of no benefit.
*must exceed 120dB of dynamic range and boise to best dithered 16-but. Even undithered, it has to exceed 98dB, which is enough to cause permanent hearing damage after ten or so minutes.
All very good, but unlessdecide to unlock its capabilities, is it not useless & capped at 24/48?
The answer comes easy - it is indeed compatible, because it features a Cirrus Logic CS42L42 chip, a 24-bit codec that supports 24-bit audio up to 192kHZ with low power consumption, combined with an integrated headphone amplifier that boasts an output of 2×35mW at 30Ω. You can even get a kit from Cirrus Logic, a rapid development platform for Lightning® connected digital headsets, and part of the MFi programme (Made for iPhone/iPod/iPad).
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Confusion.
Is anyone able to comfirm for 100% if the adapter is able to output 24/48 24/192 ?
MQA hardly worth it if it’s limited to 24/48.
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Apple iPhones will play back DSD files with the right software, over the adapter or no. And MQA can't even satiate the spec for 24/44. Theoretical 24-bit is one thing. Practically, there's nothing out there and may not be in our lifetimes that can play back 24/44 audio to the demands of its spec. And there is no human that will listen to 24 bit audio at volumes necessary to demonstrate differences (if any) to well-mastered 16-bit audio without going deaf.
It's a scam. But it does deliver re-masters, which is great, no matter the bit depth.
Tried this out yesterday with my Chord Mojo, Oppo PM1 and iPhone XS Max - have to says the Masters tracks sounded awesome!
Given the outlay for the kit it’s a lot of money to get that little bit extra, but worth it to some.
Given the outlay for the kit it’s a lot of money to get that little bit extra, but worth it to some.
Mojo is awesome. I used to own one of the only balanced-modded Mojos out there. Cost a pretty penny though. Mainly used as a source to check how well amps could cleave to near-120dB signals.