TIGER AND CLASSIC

CubaTBird

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This has not been talked about.. And I found little on apples site about classic with Tiger.. Has the support been dropped!? I wanna play power pete man! :p
 

AppleAce

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Gotta love those exploding birthday cakes. Power Pete is great! And so are a bunch of other old games, Scarab of Ra, Warlords, Infotron, Civilization, and many other 68k era games regularly.
I *hope* they haven't dropped classic support, that would really suck. Uh-oh, there's no Classic preference pane in system prefs http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/systempreferences/ not good That would also mean no more original Unreal Tournament, Noooooooooo!!! Hopefully they get the OS X port done soon! http://www.utpg.org/
Does anyone know for sure if classic is not in Tiger?
 
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broken_keyboard

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The classic preference panel remains hidden until you run your first classic app.

They have not removed it, but they seem to not want people to know about it unless they need to...
 
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AppleAce

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broken_keyboard said:
The classic preference panel remains hidden until you run your first classic app.

They have not removed it, but they seem to not want people to know about it unless they need to...
Alright, thanks. I suppose Apple will eventually remove classic support, sometime down the road though. OS 11 maybe?
 
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stoid

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AppleAce said:
Alright, thanks. I suppose Apple will eventually remove classic support, sometime down the road though. OS 11 maybe?
I think that by time they do few enough people will need it and getting a pre-OS X machine will be cheap enough that those who need Classic can just pick up a dedicated OS 9 box.
 
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earthtoandy

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CubaTBird said:
This has not been talked about.. And I found little on apples site about classic with Tiger.. Has the support been dropped!?
god i hope so. i doubt it but i really hope so
 
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MisterMe

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earthtoandy said:
god i hope so. i doubt it but i really hope so
Exactly how does Classic support adversely affect you or your computing experience?
 
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RacerX

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AppleAce said:
That would also mean no more original Unreal Tournament, Noooooooooo!!! Hopefully they get the OS X port done soon! http://www.utpg.org/
If you've been playing Unreal Tournament in Classic all this time, that is a little sad. There has been a Mac OS X port since late 2001 (here).

I don't know why you thought there wasn't one... you might want to ask about these things earlier. :eek: Four years is a long time to be playing a game in Classic that was already out for Mac OS X. I've been using it since 10.1 (requires 10.0.4 or higher).

Best of luck with your new game.
 
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SAukland

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AppleAce said:
Alright, thanks. I suppose Apple will eventually remove classic support, sometime down the road though. OS 11 maybe?
Sure... drop support for OS 9 Classic at OS11...

But OS X Classic will be needed then! :p

What a dangerous cycle.
 
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dswoodley

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in my case, I use Brio Enterprise which only runs in classic. I have found no other usable substitute. Also, Outlook in classic still suits my needs better than Entourage.
 
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earthtoandy

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OK then, how does it negatively affect your job experience?
because as long as classic support exists Apple will continue to support it in terms of troubleshooting and such. And answering dumb os9 questions is annoying. People need to just buy osx or all osx applications and live in the now. As long as apple supports it people will continue to be stubborn
 
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MisterMe

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earthtoandy said:
because as long as classic support exists Apple will continue to support it in terms of troubleshooting and such.
So you are concerned about Apple's finances? You would like our favorite fruit company to reduce its work force? Well, let me assure you that Apple is doing just fine. You need not be concerned.
earthtoandy said:
And answering dumb os9 questions is annoying.
What about MacOS 9 smart questions? If your job requires your to answer "dumb os9 questions" that go against your sensiblities, you should seek other employment. "It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
earthtoandy said:
People need to just buy osx or all osx applications and live in the now.
People need? People need food, clothes, and shelter. People need love, medicine, and understanding. Computers are tools. If someone has a tool that works for them, there is no need to replace it. The money they spend on a new computer may better be spent on a new widescreen TV. The money they spend on new software may be better spent on tickets to a Washington Nationals game.
earthtoandy said:
As long as apple supports it people will continue to be stubborn
When Apple drops Classic support, it will not suddenly stop working. A lot of people will refuse to upgrade to any new OS that does not support Classic. Others will hold on to their MacOS 9-bootable computers until they fall apart. If your most fervent hope comes true, it will actually hurt Apple sales.
 
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evilernie

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I'm with you

earthtoandy said:
it doesnt... it affects my job experience
I hear ya. I'm the only one running OSX here, and I'm sick of fixing everyone elses OS9 problems. Trying to convince the 9 users that it's time to switch already is getting annoying!
 
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earthtoandy

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wow, i'm sorry but that was a really assinine response. lecturing me about apple and its position is quite comical.

It is beneficial for a platform to be uniform. It helps all of us. And there is no such thing as a smart OS9 question since the answer too all of these questions is most likely "Get OSX". Hurt apple sales? A minute ago you said they were doing fine. Besides if people were forced to stop being so stubborn and hanging on to an obsolete OS they will finally buy the software they actually need. People want their cake and eat it too. They want to be current on some things but then have everything else be old and to work flawlessly. If you want your old stuff use a computer with OS9, thats your perogative.

OS9 is a tumor on OSX. Its time is over.
 
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newton213

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earthtoandy said:
OS9 is a tumor on OSX. Its time is over.
LOL, EXACTLY, that's gotta' be THE BEST way I've ever heard that said. I hope you don't mind, but I'm gonna' use that one myself. OS 9 is a tumor on OS X's ASS!!
 
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MisterMe

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earthtoandy said:
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Hurt apple sales? A minute ago you said they were doing fine.
Take a business course. Heck, ask a business professor. Perhaps, he will take the time to explain the concept to you.
earthtoandy said:
Besides if people were forced to stop being so stubborn and hanging on to an obsolete OS they will finally buy the software they actually need.
Stubborn? When you get a real job, you are going to learn that in the greater scheme of things in the world, stubborness is one of the least important. But, look. In the real world, real people choose the tools that they feel are best suited to do real work for real money. Despite your limited experience, there are many people out there who use MacOS 9 or even older operating systems because the software needed for their jobs is not available on MacOS X. This is a difficult concept for you to understand now, but you will understand it when you grow up.
earthtoandy said:
People want their cake and eat it too. They want to be current on some things but then have everything else be old and to work flawlessly. If you want your old stuff use a computer with OS9, thats your perogative.
You would rather people use MacOS 9 on old computers than use Classic on new computers. You have made that point clear. Apple Computer disagrees with you. So do I.
earthtoandy said:
OS9 is a tumor on OSX. Its time is over.
People who have real tumors take offense.
 
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joey4127

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Aug 29, 2004
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I have Mac OS X 10.3.8

And If i wanna run Classic, do I need to buy a copy of Mac OS or how does it work?
 
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MisterMe

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joey4127 said:
I have Mac OS X 10.3.8

And If i wanna run Classic, do I need to buy a copy of Mac OS or how does it work?
Classic is MacOS 9, somewhere between version 9.0.4 and 9.2.2. The newer, the better. Every Macintosh that ships with MacOS X also ships with MacOS 9. Some ship with MacOS 9 preinstalled. Others require you to install it from the disks that shipped with your computer. This will vary from model to model. If you want help, you will have to give the Mac model and the approximate date of purchase. But the bottomline is that you should not have to buy anything else to get Classic if you are the first owner of your computer.
 
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dotdotdot

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classic most likely won't be dropped... Windows XP still runs "classic" items from Windows 95!
 
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Bear

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MisterMe said:
Classic is MacOS 9, somewhere between version 9.0.4 and 9.2.2. The newer, the better. Every Macintosh that ships with MacOS X also ships with MacOS 9. Some ship with MacOS 9 preinstalled. Others require you to install it from the disks that shipped with your computer. This will vary from model to model. If you want help, you will have to give the Mac model and the approximate date of purchase. But the bottomline is that you should not have to buy anything else to get Classic if you are the first owner of your computer.
Who knows if this will still be true for macs that are released after Tiger is available?

At some point Apple will stop shipping Classic with new machines. And probably with one of the next two OS releases after that happens they will drop support for Classic.
 
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MisterMe

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Bear said:
Who knows if this will still be true for macs that are released after Tiger is available?

At some point Apple will stop shipping Classic with new machines. And probably with one of the next two OS releases after that happens they will drop support for Classic.
You have a firm grasp of the obvious. However, I was responding to a question from joey4127 about the computer that he owns now, not the computer that he will own in some distant future.
 
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Inspector Lee

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I use Classic to view MrSid images. I know of know other program that can views these. And at first glance, the site above no longer even offers the free viewer but I know you can still get it here.

Worst case scenario, I'll use a G3 iBook at my pad which won't be getting Tiger.
 
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