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yeah saw that to, turns out the cats debut. i think he freaked on stage. lets hope they can turn around his condition but it did say he had him by the neck. you know how long those fangs are and the power in those jaws.
 
I agree that this being his first onstage performance may have spooked him. The Tiger just went into self protection mode.

My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends. I hope that he will make a full recovery. Also have concerns for the tiger!
 
Re: Tiger Mauls Magician Roy Horn in Las Vegas Show

Originally posted by eyelikeart
the poor guy...

I'm sorry to hear that he is injured, but I say it's about damn time one of those poor animals attacked. I think it's terrible that they are taken from their natural habitat and made to perform tricks for drunken idiots.

Dan
 
Originally posted by iGAV
It's unfortunate, I just hope they don't shoot the tiger...

I doubt if Siegfried or Roy would let that happen.

I'm guessing the tiger will get sent off to a zoo or habitat...
 
Well, one up for the tiger then, it's a shame he got hurt, but if you play with fire etc.

It like that fool on ITV tonight whose gonna play Russian Roulette live:eek: There'll be a big fuss if he blows his stupid head off.:rolleyes:

I hope they don't destroy the beast, it was just doing what it's supposed to do.
 
Re: *sigh* When oh when will people learn?

Originally posted by lmalave
This just in: Tiger captured in Harlem apartment after owner shows up in hospital mauled by his "pet":

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/10/04/nyc.tiger/index.html

I can't imagine what the person was thinking keeping a caiman and a Bengal Tiger in a NY apartment. That was just a disaster waiting to happen. I imagine that he is going to be facing some criminal charges. Certainly hope that he will be OK. I also hope that the two animals will find proper homes. It is such a said story all around!
 
Re: Re: Tiger Mauls Magician Roy Horn in Las Vegas Show

Originally posted by alset
I'm sorry to hear that he is injured, but I say it's about damn time one of those poor animals attacked. I think it's terrible that they are taken from their natural habitat and made to perform tricks for drunken idiots.

Dan

I think those tigers they used are born in captivity and raised to be show tigers. I think they have a pretty good life.
 
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
yeah saw that to, turns out the cats debut.

That's just part of the act to say that it's a particular tigers' first time on stage. They've had that tiger for 6 years.

As the curator for the New York Zoo said tonight on television when asked what might happen to the tiger, he basically replied, "Well, nothing should happen to the tiger. It was being a tiger."

Nonetheless, I wish the man Godspeed in his recovery, even though the prospects look grim.
 
Originally posted by WinterMute
Well, one up for the tiger then, it's a shame he got hurt, but if you play with fire etc.

It like that fool on ITV tonight whose gonna play Russian Roulette live:eek: There'll be a big fuss if he blows his stupid head off.:rolleyes:

I hope they don't destroy the beast, it was just doing what it's supposed to do.

Derren Brown... I'm going to be watching that... some of the stuff he does is quite amazing as well.... especially with those boxers... where he spoke to them and they were unable to lift this mere slip of a girl... :eek: when before they were picking her up like a doll... that'd be quite a handy trick to be able to do.... especially in a pub.... "you won't be able to pick up that pint of beer".... heh-heh!!

Still not sure about the Russian Roulette thing.... if it's genuine, then that really is a test of ones skill and nerve isn't it.... :eek: :p :p

I've never seen someone blow their head off before though, so I'll be watching!

As for the tiger.... even if it was bought up by the performers etc etc, you can't supress 1000's of years of natural instinct... it's kind of like that nutter from Oz, who wrestles with the Croc's, and picks up snakes and spins them around and kissesthem and stuff.... :rolleyes: :p one day... one day...
 
Originally posted by iGAV
Derren Brown... I'm going to be watching that...

I've never seen someone blow their head off before though, so I'll be watching!

Sadly, if he does put a live one through what little brain he has, you won't see it, Channel 4 (5?) have put a 5 second delay on the transmission, so no grey matter on the camera lense for you I'm afraid...;)

Brown has also got an escape clause, he's said that if he feels he can't make the call, he's not going to do it. Give the man a shotgun, I say.:D
 
Originally posted by WinterMute
Sadly, if he does put a live one through what little brain he has, you won't see it, Channel 4 (5?) have put a 5 second delay on the transmission, so no grey matter on the camera lense for you I'm afraid...;)

Brown has also got an escape clause, he's said that if he feels he can't make the call, he's not going to do it. Give the man a shotgun, I say.:D

bugger.... if it was on channel 5 they'd have shown it, cos they have zero standards... infact if it was on channel 5 I reckon they'd have a bullet cam as well... and slow-mo replies from multiple angles... :eek: :p :p cos' they're good like that!! heh-heh!!
 
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
yeah saw that to, turns out the cats debut. i think he freaked on stage. lets hope they can turn around his condition but it did say he had him by the neck. you know how long those fangs are and the power in those jaws.

Yeah actually thats a gimmic... they said the same exact thing when I say their show.

Originally posted by alset
I'm sorry to hear that he is injured, but I say it's about damn time one of those poor animals attacked. I think it's terrible that they are taken from their natural habitat and made to perform tricks for drunken idiots.

Dan
Most of them weren't taken from the wild but grew up there.

They really care for these animals, the reason they got them from the wild in they were being killed by poachers and deforestation .
 
Re: Re: Tiger Mauls Magician Roy Horn in Las Vegas Show

Originally posted by alset
I'm sorry to hear that he is injured, but I say it's about damn time one of those poor animals attacked. I think it's terrible that they are taken from their natural habitat and made to perform tricks for drunken idiots.

Dan

you may wish to do research on people before you call them "drunken idiots". These two have worked with animals, especially felines, their whole lives and take great pains to ensure the animals can lead as full lives as possible. From their site:
For more than 20 years, we have been entrusted with the care and preservation of the Royal White Tigers. There are now 200 of these precious creatures roaming the earth, 38 with us in Las Vegas. The good news is that the white tiger will make it into the new millennium, and we are blessed that they will continue to thrive in this century.
Taking on a new quest in 1993 with less than a handful of Magical White Lions, we have echoed our success, and now have 23 White Lions growing by leaps and bounds in Las Vegas, Cincinnati, South Africa, Asia and China.
They have saved two species from the brink of extinction and are credited for their continuation today. The White Lions are more difficult to breed than the infamous panda, and they are at critical levels.
When a White Lion or White Tiger is pregnant she is cared for in special birthing facilities and Roy begins meditating with her, creating serenity in the giant cats. Roy is there at the time of birth, comforting the mother and introducing himself to the squalling cubs. "The first voice they hear is mine, the first touch they feel is mine, the fist human face they see is mine," he says.
On many deliveries, the mother has blocked Roy's path as he tried to go for help when the cubs began arriving. The mother would clean the babies as they were born, then drop them in Roy's lap in an amazing show of trust.
"I think this is incredible. When you consider an animal like this can kill their own mate over young ones, the fact that she accepts Roy to be part of the experience is a miracle," says Siegfried.
They limit the animals' public exposure to the minimum necessary to draw attention and funds to their charities. Without the money generated from these shows, there would be no hope for the animals as a species.

Shame on you for condemning these two in their darkest hour. I think it shows incredible ignorance. I hope that Roy recovers and they are able to continue their wonderful work in this area, although they will probably never show again they have enough money to keep things alive.

pnw
 
Re: Re: Re: Tiger Mauls Magician Roy Horn in Las Vegas Show

Originally posted by paulwhannel
you may wish to do research on people before you call them "drunken idiots". These two have worked with animals, especially felines, their whole lives and take great pains to ensure the animals can lead as full lives as possible. From their site:
They have saved two species from the brink of extinction and are credited for their continuation today. The White Lions are more difficult to breed than the infamous panda, and they are at critical levels.
They limit the animals' public exposure to the minimum necessary to draw attention and funds to their charities. Without the money generated from these shows, there would be no hope for the animals as a species.

Shame on you for condemning these two in their darkest hour. I think it shows incredible ignorance. I hope that Roy recovers and they are able to continue their wonderful work in this area, although they will probably never show again they have enough money to keep things alive.

pnw

As far as I know, White Lions are not a separate species any more than albino humans are a separate species. It's just a recessive genetic trait that now is being bred for in captivity. I'm not sure about the tigers, though. Are they Siberian Tigers, or just a variant of the Indian or African tiger? Either way, the focus of any preservation program should be preservation of habitat, which is the main reason species are becoming extinct. Breeding in captivity should only be with the goal of reintroducing the species to the wild, as has been done with Pandas in China.
 
Re: Re: Re: Tiger Mauls Magician Roy Horn in Las Vegas Show

Originally posted by paulwhannel
you may wish to do research on people before you call them "drunken idiots".
pnw

In defense of alset, I don't believe he was referring to Ziegfried or Roy...rather, the audience as a whole.

Otherwise, it's a sad day for all involved in the show - which probably is now over; even if Roy (hopefully) recovers, he may be nursing his wound for a long time to come, and the pact they both made to each other years ago (not to perform if one of them is unable to) is now, tragically, in effect.
 
Most people would rather be bitten on a hand or foot than in the neck. Roy's major risk seems to have been from the initial blood loss, not from nerve damage. It's amazing he went all those years without an incident like this before. I heard on the news that previous injuries during their act had been from stage accidents, not from the tigers.

I also learned after the fact why some early news reports said the tiger was appearing on stage for the first time, while others said it had been in the show for 7 years. The truth was that the tiger was 7 years old, had been in the show for "several" years, and that Roy always tells the audience that the tiger is appearing for the first time, i.e., it's "artist license".
 
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