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Tiger, new OS or just a service pack?

Well, the jump from 10.0 to 10.1 was big, the jump from 10.1 to 10.2 was really big, and 10.2 to 10.3 was like a whole new OS. So far 10.3 to 10.4 has been like "uhhhh, is that it?"
 
5300cs said:
This looks bad with the brushed metal of iTunes & Safari, and horrible with an app like Mozilla. Mail is also pretty ugly :rolleyes: If the GUI were the only thing changed in Tiger I'd be pretty pissed
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I agree completely.

That is exactly why we have Shapeshifter ;)
 
5300cs said:
Well, the jump from 10.0 to 10.1 was big, the jump from 10.1 to 10.2 was really big, and 10.2 to 10.3 was like a whole new OS. So far 10.3 to 10.4 has been like "uhhhh, is that it?"
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I think it depends on what you expect, and also on what you use. If you use them, Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator, the upgrade to Safari/iCal/Mail/iSync and the upgrade to XCode together definitely qualify as a major release in my mind. I have never heard of a Service Pack for any OS that delivered something like Spotlight or XCode 2.....

If you don't use any of them, then totally agreed, this upgrade is a non-event.

But that's like saying Windows 95 was not a significant upgrade from Windows 3.1 because you "only run command line." :rolleyes: Whether it's a good direction or not, the bundling of these applications and their evolution is what constitutes the major focus of Apple's OS development... so if you ignore them, then I think your answer is pre-determined as to whether it is a "big upgrade."

From the OP...Win98 to WinME? Give me a break! If that was my last experience of an operating system upgrade, I think they could've just changed the box and I would consider it a better upgrade. :D Win2k and XP are nice, but ME was the biggest pile of steaming.... that I have ever seen. It was like the Star Trek V of operating systems.
 
5300cs said:
Well, the jump from 10.0 to 10.1 was big, the jump from 10.1 to 10.2 was really big, and 10.2 to 10.3 was like a whole new OS. So far 10.3 to 10.4 has been like "uhhhh, is that it?"
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Really? I disagree!
There are a lot more things in 10.4 that qualify as "next-gen". As has previously been stated - core data, 64 bit support etc.
Spotlight is already changing the way i do things, as is automator (lovely being able to re-name a bunch of files sequentially and such, and you can make your own plugins for apps - even in contextual menus!)
As has been mentioned, there are so many things that are contained in 10.4 "under the hood" that soon you'll be seeing and using apps that would simply not be possible to use under a previous OS.
 
James Philp said:
Really? I disagree!

As has been mentioned, there are so many things that are contained in 10.4 "under the hood" that soon you'll be seeing and using apps that would simply not be possible to use under a previous OS.
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I think it would also be pointless to say that the switch to SMPng will make 970MP and dual 970MP machines quite spiffy under Tiger.

Of course that would be like pouring a gallon of new information into a half full cup.

Especially since they are more interested in "GUI features" instead of under the hood changes that will make the next generation machines real kickass units.
 
Sun Baked said:
I think it would also be pointless to say that the switch to SMPng will make 970MP and dual 970MP machines quite spiffy under Tiger.

Of course that would be like pouring a gallon of new information into a half full cup.

Especially since they are more interested in "GUI features" instead of under the hood changes that will make the next generation machines real kickass units.
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I think you tag speaks wonders!
I have no idea what you're saying! agreeing, disagreeing? who knows? :confused: :confused:
 
James Philp said:
I think you tag speaks wonders!
I have no idea what you're saying! agreeing, disagreeing? who knows? :confused: :confused:
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The problem is that your pitcher of beer obviously isn't less than half full yet.
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At first I was wondering what was new enough to get excited about, but after a full night of the Finder indexing the HD, updating a few apps, and running disc utility and such, I've noticed that Tiger has been blazingly fast compared to Panther in all sorts of areas such as iDisk syncing, rebooting, opening Finder windows, launching applications, doing graphic intensive work, and even Safari and using the net in general seems a lot quicker. Just last night my cable modem connection tested as 4.97 Mbps on CNet when it never tested more than 3.6 before and download speeds through Airport Express have been great.

I think the car analogy used earlier is definitely useful with this OS upgrade. It is like my car...it looks just like my old Ford Probe GT...but with a few under the hood changes I've recently made, that extra 50 hp and 100 lb/ft of torque will just blow you away...
 
Mail 2.0 is growing on me. Dashboard has it's uses (still lacking a lot of widgets). Spotlight rocks. CoreImage freakin RULES. CoreData is something i haven't had a chance to muck with yet but CoreData + XCode 2.0 is very intriguing for me. My battery life went from 3 hours 20 minutes with 10.3.4 when i got my powerbook, to 3 hours and 40 minutes after 10.3.7, now Tiger made it 4 hours + .. not bad after a year my battery life is still going UP.
 
i think jaguar was a big step for os x... 10.1 basically fixed broken programs and stuff that was in 10.0... 10.3 got mixed reviews b/c the only real stand out feature was expose and that was kinda it...
 
Jaguar was actually the first useable OS that didn't run like molasses. Panther brought about Core Audio and a revamped Finder and Expose, so some people thought this was a bigger upgrade than Tiger, but I would have to disagree.
 
Lacero said:
Jaguar was actually the first useable OS that didn't run like molasses. Panther brought about Core Audio and a revamped Finder and Expose, so some people thought this was a bigger upgrade than Tiger, but I would have to disagree.
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Yeah, I would agree. If anything it makes Panther pale in comparison...

People complaining about the money they spent had unrealistic, perhaps imagined expectations. Apple clearly listed all the changes, and those of us who have been Mac users a long time understand how big it is. Also, how do you think Apple got it to us this early? That's what point updates are for.

Just imagine what people are expecting from Longhorn, heh...
 
5300cs said:
This looks bad with the brushed metal of iTunes & Safari, and horrible with an app like Mozilla. Mail is also pretty ugly :rolleyes: If the GUI were the only thing changed in Tiger I'd be pretty pissed
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Brushed Metal looks good when used in the right places - for example it actually does look good in iTunes and Safari (I tried aquafied Safari, and it was ickish). The problem is that developers tend to waaaay overuse brushed metal in places it simply doesn't belong.

Same goes for the unified toolbar look. I have a feeling developers will overuse it too -

Personally I think Mail looks good. Sure, the buttons could use a little work, but it's nothing hideous.
 
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