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Tiger - What's the Verdict?

Zip, none, nada, zilch problems

Haven't had a problem yet on either iBook G3/900 or 20" iMac. Both, especially the iMac are much faster. I did an archive and install.

I did spend about a half hour on each machine repairing permissions, run cron jobs, deleted all kinds of crap, caches and restarted before the upgrade.

First impressions - Spotlight will be very useful, Dashboard is just eye candy at this point, Quicktime HD videos at Apple's site are amazing and Safari does a nice job with RSS feeds.
 
Top 5 Good and Bad Tiger experiences

I was going to start a thread on "whats your favorite list?" for Tiger but this thread seem to be headed in that direction.

I was going to wait but I just couldnt help myself. I bought it and left the box on the table only to come back and stare at for half an hour (it is a nice box :p ) and then took a leap of faith after planning a clean install.

Well, I am pleased to say I am very impressed. Top 5 things would be:

1. Speed. My PB must be 20 - 30% faster. Seriously.
2. Spotlight. Will it replace Quicksilver? I dont know but it has me hooked.
3. Automator. I didnt take much notice of this but on more investigation Im starting to realise the potential of this app.
4. Quicktime 7. Once you see the previews you have to go Pro...wow.
5. Safari. Much much quicker. Equal to Camino IMHO. Love the built in RSS.

The 5 not so good things:

1. Paying what I think an exorbitant price for QT7 Pro. Cheaper please?
2. Wacom tablet drivers not updated for Tiger. (Not Apples fault).
3. Not happy with Finder.
4. Mail is a bit of break in terms of consistency. Its better, but not better...
5. I like Dashboard I just wish it was on the desktop as well.

Anyone else have a list?

:)
 
NICE JOB APPLE!!!

I was amongst the lucky ones to get Tiger on Thursday Afternoon, so I have had Roughly 72 hrs to play. The only think i regret is not doing a complete Erase and Install. I did an archive and it screwed up several of my programs due to missing pref files and I had to reinstall them (Palm Hotsync for example). So given my experience, i higly recommend a clean install.
Immediatly after installing i noticed the jump in speed. I have a 1.07 Ghz iBook 12" w/ 768mb of ram, and the speed increase systemwide is incredible. AirPort reception is also better, although I have no idea why.
Here is what I lke:
Spotlight - blows every other desktop search technology i have used out of the water.
Mail - the new interface, smart mailboxes, and Exchange capability. I have used Entourage since Office '04 came out, and just uninstalled it this morning.
Safari 2.0 - much faster rendering of graphics, RSS capability (deleted Net News Wire on Saturday), on screen PDF rendering without having to download Acrobat, and the greater compatibility i have seen.
Print dialog - this has to be the greatest new feature for me, as I am constantly printing to PDF files, the new dialog has a whole list of new options for when you print to PDF, such as being able to create a PDF file just for e-mail (you don't have to save it to your hard drive first).
Dictionary - As a college student this is indespensible and Apple only went with the best (Oxford). Consequently, I think that the Dictionary Dashboard Widgit will be the only one that I use with any ammount of frequency.

So there you have it, I LOVE this OS and have had zero problems thus far. Please feel free to let me know of any specific element you want a review of.

Also, I did also go with Quicktime Pro, Expensive but wonce you see the new h.264 video in all of its full screen glory, how could you not?
 
SERIOUS PRIVACY PROBLEM

Using Spotlight, I can type in my wife's name and find her "mbox", in her separate User Account: double click, and I can read her emails. Neat, huh? :eek:
M$-style privacy.
 
seattlemaclover said:
I was amongst the lucky ones to get Tiger on Thursday Afternoon, so I have had Roughly 72 hrs to play. The only think i regret is not doing a complete Erase and Install. I did an archive and it screwed up several of my programs due to missing pref files and I had to reinstall them (Palm Hotsync for example). So given my experience, i higly recommend a clean install.
Immediatly after installing i noticed the jump in speed. I have a 1.07 Ghz iBook 12" w/ 768mb of ram, and the speed increase systemwide is incredible. AirPort reception is also better, although I have no idea why.
Here is what I lke:
Spotlight - blows every other desktop search technology i have used out of the water.
Mail - the new interface, smart mailboxes, and Exchange capability. I have used Entourage since Office '04 came out, and just uninstalled it this morning.
Safari 2.0 - much faster rendering of graphics, RSS capability (deleted Net News Wire on Saturday), on screen PDF rendering without having to download Acrobat, and the greater compatibility i have seen.
Print dialog - this has to be the greatest new feature for me, as I am constantly printing to PDF files, the new dialog has a whole list of new options for when you print to PDF, such as being able to create a PDF file just for e-mail (you don't have to save it to your hard drive first).
Dictionary - As a college student this is indespensible and Apple only went with the best (Oxford). Consequently, I think that the Dictionary Dashboard Widgit will be the only one that I use with any ammount of frequency.

So there you have it, I LOVE this OS and have had zero problems thus far. Please feel free to let me know of any specific element you want a review of.

Also, I did also go with Quicktime Pro, Expensive but wonce you see the new h.264 video in all of its full screen glory, how could you not?
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Palm desktop needed only one file though to be dragged from the previous systems folder to become viable again. And no pesky isync conduit to mess with! I opened iSync and it was all like "Hot Dog! I see that you have had a palm device once synced with this machine! That's tight yo! Want my to set up the conduit and all that **** fo ya?!?!?" Well, not in those words exactly...

oh yeah, and iSync doesn't pop up during syncs anymore which is a huge awesome point.

I'm still deciding on QT Pro. Don't know what all the fuss is about with fullscreen. that green little "+" will fix the QT movie in your screen. The only difference is you'll not have the black area around it. No excuss for Full screen to be a pro only feature though, since Windows users are a kin to that word.
 
I'm a happy camper

I did three Archive & Installs on a range of machines over the weekend and I've been happy with all of them. There are a handful of issues (like the QT Player "show movie property" bug, for which there is now a workaround) but mostly it's an improvement. In particular I like:

  • Pretty good boost to overall interface speed. I don't know if it's "50-70%" like some here have said, but my computers feel faster.
  • Safari is definitely much faster, and with new capabilities. I was disappointed with last week's Safari 1.3 upgrade for 10.3.9 (which broke a lot of things for me and didn't seem to provide much good), but this is way cool. And the RSS features are great.
  • Spotlight is great and it goes even better with the B40 version of Quicksilver, released last week. (I wish I could find more on the Spotlight search syntax. I know there are little tricks like "kind:images" after your search string, but where are they documented?) Dashboard won't change my life, but I like it just fine. And, no, I don't want my widgets on the desktop so I'm happy with this UI.
  • I think Automator will be the unsung hero of Tiger. I played with it a little and I'm sort of in awe of the possibilities. But more must be revealed (or I have to discover it). I love, for instance, the ability to save an Automator file as part of the printing workflow to compress, encrypt, and mail a PDF from any application? Whoaaaa!

I realize some have had issues but there certainly haven't been any show stoppers for me and I'm quite pleased with the new OS.
 
I'm running Tiger on my PowerBook and have been since Friday afternoon, and I must say I'm very happy with it. I did a clean install, and there are a few minor bugs here and there, but nothing really serious that I've encountered. Spotlight is great (although it doesn't quite replace Quicksilver for app launching), Dashboard is really cool, and the new Safari is great. That said, I'm using my PowerMac with Panther right now, and I can't say I mind at all, whereas I can't stand to use a Jaguar machine for the simple reason that it lacks Exposé. I'm not going to upgrade this machine until I'm done with the major video editing project I'm working on now just in case of bugs.

Anyway, I'm very happy with Tiger and if you're waiting to buy it, I'd say go ahead unless you're doing something mission critical that you're worried about.
 
skunk said:
Using Spotlight, I can type in my wife's name and find her "mbox", in her separate User Account: double click, and I can read her emails. Neat, huh? :eek:
M$-style privacy.
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I do believe you can have spotlight not index certain folders if their contents should be private. Someone else is gunna have to chime in on how tho :eek: :D
 
Works...

Works perfectly fine on my Pismo....Didn't uprgrade, erased and installed. Seems pretty quick on my pismo compared to panther. Haven't loaded it on my 17" PB yet though, going to after finals...

Nuc
 
Erendiox said:
I do believe you can have spotlight not index certain folders if their contents should be private. Someone else is gunna have to chime in on how tho :eek: :D
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It's in the Spotlight control panel. There are two tabs, the second one is a list of folders not to search.

Edit: I had a lot of pictures in a folder on my disk, and all the same pictures in iPhoto. This made them show up twice in all the Spotlight searches. The way around it was to add the folder to the do not search list.
 
rdowns said:
Haven't had a problem yet on either iBook G3/900 or 20" iMac. Both, especially the iMac are much faster. I did an archive and install.

I did spend about a half hour on each machine repairing permissions, run cron jobs, deleted all kinds of crap, caches and restarted before the upgrade.

First impressions - Spotlight will be very useful, Dashboard is just eye candy at this point, Quicktime HD videos at Apple's site are amazing and Safari does a nice job with RSS feeds.
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Why would you bother with repairing permissions if you are just going to throw that away with the archive and install?
 
Duff-Man says....so far it is awesome - well worth the admission price. I had just got a second drive for the G5 so I "clean" installed 10.4 on that, leaving my 10.3.x drive intact. I figure I will just install the apps again as I need them - good way to weed out the old stuff I don't use. I did an "archive and install" on the Powerbook and again, no real problems at all. It starts up a *lot* faster on both computers and after just a couple days I am loving the Dashboard and look forward to more useful widgets. There are a few apps I use (audio stuff - like Arturia's soft-synths) that need updates to run but I am sure they'll arrive shortly and I will be able to delete the old 10.3.x install.....oh yeah!
 
MyLeftNut said:
The 5 not so good things:

1. Paying what I think an exorbitant price for QT7 Pro. Cheaper please?
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Exorbitant? $30? Right... QT dev doesn't grow on trees!

It sounds like the majority of Archive & Installs went well. I really have little sympathy for the small difficulties that arise from that process... it's not an easy thing to do and Apple did an amazing job. Or you can stop whining and do a clean install.
 
Overall I'm happy with it.

- Speed seems about the same as Panther.

- I can sync my Motorola V600 over Bluetooth now!!!

- Spotlight is really handy, basically replaces the only thing I used Quicksilver for (finding apps and docs really fast)

- I gotta agree with edesignuk word for word regarding Dashboard. Not to mention its widgets are memory hogs. How can I turn it off?

- I really want to use Mail (smart folders rock!), but I'm back to Thunderbird until a certain IMAP bug gets ironed out

- Safari still doesn't give me a reason to switch away from Firefox

- I like how Fast User Switching is more like Winswitch :D

- The HFS+ awareness of most all bash commands really rocks. I realize this is totally behind the scenes, but really it's a biggie.

- Fink unstable already works with Tiger!!!

- launchd! launchd! launchd! launchd!
 
broken_keyboard said:
I had a lot of pictures in a folder on my disk, and all the same pictures in iPhoto. This made them show up twice in all the Spotlight searches. The way around it was to add the folder to the do not search list.
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Oh! I do the same thing w/ photo management, and didn't even think about this. Thanks for pointing that out!

I'd told it not to include things like my website logs and such, but didn't even think about duplicate photo info...
 
dferrara wrote:

Exorbitant? $30? Right... QT dev doesn't grow on trees!
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Well, I do live in OZ. That means $30.00 is $45.00 for me. Money doesnt grow on trees for me either, although I appreciate the devs deserve their money on this one, it looks great. ;)
 
So far it's been a stellar upgrade; no problems of any significance yet.

-Canon scanner works in Photoshop with latest driver.
-Canon i850 printer works without Canon driver installation.
-Logitech mx500 mouse works properly without Logitech driver installation.
-So far every app I've tried has worked properly. Textedit had a printing issue with one document my wife formatted(text way too small), but I have not been able to reproduce it.
-Spotlight works as advertised.
-Mail works properly, although I had one issue with mailbox icons not displaying; they were "there" but invisible until I moused over them. Has not recurred.
-Safari is faster, but still does not function with certain web-based utilities. (IE5 is buggy and is not a suitable replacement for WinXP IE)I'm going to continue to need my PC until things like this are resolved.
-Global dictionary function is awesome.
-Automator is somewhat complicated; not as as easy to use as advertised.
-Clipboard works with Dashboard calculator.
-Dashboard requires a videocard and RAM upgrade; this thing is neat, but it's a resource hog.
-Not thrilled about having to upgrade QTPro again.
-System menubar "shiny plastic look" is not as refined and elegant as Panther's aluminum IMO.
-RSS screensaver is outstanding.
 
MyLeftNut said:
Well, I do live in OZ. That means $30.00 is $45.00 for me. Money doesnt grow on trees for me either, although I appreciate the devs deserve their money on this one, it looks great. ;)
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Oh I see. :)

Question for Tiger people (mine just shipped):

How much memory are those widgets taking up? Are they using much CPU time? (Utilities/Activity Monitor)
 
Installed it on my PB and PM (see sig) and on an iBook 14. All 3 were done as an upgrade (i.e. no archive and install and not erase and install). No probs on any of the machines. 2 friends have put it on their PB 12s and no problems there either.

I think dashboard is handy but overhyped. When I need quick acccess to the calculator it will be nice. Same for looking up a word in the dicitonary which will now be much easier than using sherlock (and the cmd-control-d shortcut is nice too). So, dashboard is nice for infrequent but quick access to info you want in a hurry.

I love spotlight - smart folders too, plus using it as an app launcher (start typing app anme, then cmd-return to launch).

I think automator and core data are sleepers. I think they'll be really big over time.

I'm ok with the new mail ui (it's softer and cleaner) but it is inconsistent.

Those HD QT7 demos on my PM with 30" display are totally awesome!

:)
 
dferrara said:
Oh I see. :)

Question for Tiger people (mine just shipped):

How much memory are those widgets taking up? Are they using much CPU time? (Utilities/Activity Monitor)
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They're not consuming cpu when the dashboard is not visible, but thats not the case if you drag a widget out onto the desktop as some seem to want to do.
 
dferrara said:
Oh I see. :)

Question for Tiger people (mine just shipped):

How much memory are those widgets taking up? Are they using much CPU time? (Utilities/Activity Monitor)
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i think they are hogging the system for me as i was watching the cpu monitor yesterday with word safari and itunes running and my cpu was around 90 - 100% in use and no ram was free (i have 512 mg)
 
Tiger rocks

Another happy camper here. Tiger clean installed on my PowerBook & then carefully moved back all my apps once I checked if they were Tigerproof. All went real smooth & the speed increase is really substantial (on a G4 at least) Have not run across any significant bugs in the last 48hrs but then I try keeping my OS as clean as possible away fm too many 3rd party apps/plugins which seem to cause a lot of hassle over on other threads (It's quite amazing the difference of opinions when some members claim things don't work whilst others reply sure works... that's what you get for trying to customize too much :rolleyes: )

I'm just enjoying iLife :D

- Dal
 
drlunanerd said:
However there is ubdoubtedly a lot of software out there that has issues with Tiger. If you rely on any software then I'd check compatibilty before you pull the trigger on installing, otherwise I'd jump on in - the water's fine.
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Agree. Installed on one machine and now the rest are on hold for the exact same reason.
 
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