Mesa Dynamics said:
Actual Apple Widgets off the main site just like the Tiger users? or do they all have to be modified to run under Panther?
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Actual Apple Widgets off the main site just like the Tiger users? or do they all have to be modified to run under Panther?
Not trying to sound dumb, I just am
efoto said:Actual Apple Widgets off the main site just like the Tiger users? or do they all have to be modified to run under Panther?
Not trying to sound dumb, I just am
Yes, widgets like the ones from Apple's site. Or from dashboardwidgets.com. Or from macupdate.com or versiontracker.com. No modification necessary. Most widgets will run fine, but a few use Tiger-only technologies, so those won't run. You can get a list of widgets that don't work in Amnesty under Panther here (at the bottom of the page).
Note: the 14 "default" Apple widgets do not run in Amnesty under Panther (techincally, if you don't own Tiger you don't have these and they're not available for download anyway).
Tiger on mini
Mac user since March '05 when I purchased a mini (1.42 ghz, 512 ram). Still getting used to the "apple way", but was liking it. On father's day my kids gave me the gift of Tiger & we installed it 2 days ago via the upgrade procedure.
The biggest difference noticed is that I get the "beachball" very very frequently when opening & closing apps; i.e. almost everything seems to run slower. I am getting tired of waiting on apps to open & close among other things.
Any suggestions/comments?
Mac user since March '05 when I purchased a mini (1.42 ghz, 512 ram). Still getting used to the "apple way", but was liking it. On father's day my kids gave me the gift of Tiger & we installed it 2 days ago via the upgrade procedure.
The biggest difference noticed is that I get the "beachball" very very frequently when opening & closing apps; i.e. almost everything seems to run slower. I am getting tired of waiting on apps to open & close among other things.
Any suggestions/comments?
monoguy54 said:
Other than some users' problems after performing the "upgrade" process (as opposed to "archive and install" for instance) I can't think of any. Tiger overall seems a little faster for me than Panther was (and Panther was much faster than Jaguar before it on the same hardware). You might install one of the many utilities such as (Onyx ) or Cocktail which can help to make sure log files are properly trimmed down and that you don't have stray virtual memory/swap files on your drive wasting space.
The Mac mini is by no means a "power machine" but it shouldn't be as slow as I'm understanding from your comments about frequent spinning beach balls. My system's only a dual 1.25GHz machine and I only really get the beach balls when an app has stopped responding for some reason (but clicking outside that program lets me keep running the rest of the system like normal).
Mesa Dynamics said:
I'll give it a try. I also saw Beholder which looks interesting, grabbed the trial of that too
The 14 default ones are probably nice but I think for the time being (assuming it all works swell) I will probably hold out on Tiger for a month since money is a little tight. I head home in two weeks, have a ton of bills to pay and then take off to school. If I can squeeze away from the collectors with 69 dollars, I'm all over it
Edit: Just curious, do the Apple stores offer assitance in backup/upgrading of OSX? I don't really need the help as I could come up with space enough to backup and then move to Tiger, but just curious if anyone knows if they will let you bring in your computer and they will help you move to the new OS (assuming you buy it then). Anyone know about something like this?
Monoguy54:
Don't forget to run Repair Permissions on your hard drive using the Disk Utility in your /Applications/Utilities folder. Some updates don't properly restore file permissions after they run, and Repair Permissions will fix those instances. In MacOS X, files with improper permissions will prevent the user using them, and sometimes the applications they're a part of from running properly, resulting in unexpected crashes, failure to start, and other abnormal behavior.
Welcome aboard. You're in for a fun ride!
Don't forget to run Repair Permissions on your hard drive using the Disk Utility in your /Applications/Utilities folder. Some updates don't properly restore file permissions after they run, and Repair Permissions will fix those instances. In MacOS X, files with improper permissions will prevent the user using them, and sometimes the applications they're a part of from running properly, resulting in unexpected crashes, failure to start, and other abnormal behavior.
Welcome aboard. You're in for a fun ride!
protools currently runs slower with tiger, so i'm holding upgrade because of that. and all plugins may not yet be compatible, so there's no hurry. i have heard reports that protools runs pretty speedy if you hack the quartz 2D extreme on by yourself, but i'm not so keen on doing such thing on a production environment, because there must be a reason why apple still keeps it disabled.
once apple gives the Q2D a green light and all protools systems run faster than before, then i have a solid reason to upgrade.
...or when protools seven is released as tiger-only
once apple gives the Q2D a green light and all protools systems run faster than before, then i have a solid reason to upgrade.
...or when protools seven is released as tiger-only
jodan said:
Many people have reported issues with VLC/Tiger compatibility, I have not heard anything recently stating that someone has gotten it to work, so for the time being you are SOL. MacSweeper I am not sure about, but there are other programs that do similar things which you can find here.
Have you tried the most recent release? 0.8.2 is said to support Tiger:
http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/5758
Haven't tried it yet myself, but in the reviews they say it works.
http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/5758
Haven't tried it yet myself, but in the reviews they say it works.
Reading all the replies, there seems to be a mixed view on tiger?
I have a 14" iBook G4 with only 256RAM (soon to be 768mb hopefully), but without an internet connection (unfortunately I'm typing this on the 'family pc' with windows). Would you say it's worth getting for Automator and Spotlight? As I would not be able to get the full benefit of the widgets and other things requiring the internet.
Any comments are appreciated.
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I have a 14" iBook G4 with only 256RAM (soon to be 768mb hopefully), but without an internet connection (unfortunately I'm typing this on the 'family pc' with windows
). Would you say it's worth getting for Automator and Spotlight? As I would not be able to get the full benefit of the widgets and other things requiring the internet.Any comments are appreciated.
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I'd wait until you raised your memory to at least 512MB RAM before installing Tiger. I've installed it on G3 iBooks with 256MB of RAM, but it was fairly sluggish. It runs OK with 384MB of RAM on a G4 iBooks, but 512MB seems to be the threshold for decent performance.
Dave Marsh said:
I would tend to concur with Dave Marsh's analysis of your question. If you do that upgrade to 768 you were talking about then go for it, but Tiger probably won't feel like an upgrade if you only have 256MB of RAM on an older system, or any system for that matter. Get yourself 512 or 768 and then go for it.
Thanks
OK thanks for the help.
I will wait until I've upgraded the RAM (once I've got the money!)
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OK thanks for the help.
I will wait until I've upgraded the RAM (once I've got the money!)
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