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TikTok is Working Again in the U.S., But Still Removed From App Store

BaldiMac said:
Why would you cite an opinion piece that doesn't actually provide any evidence that any traffic through the canal is being discriminated against?

And no, violating the treaty does not mean we can take it back. Per the treaty, we are only allowed to intervene to insure neutrality.
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Glad you agree then -- I think. The question of whether neutrality has been breached is a matter of debate (even perhaps opinion) but ultimately needs a factual predicate. But chalking it up to "imperialism" rather than a dispute over the terms of the treaty are two very different things.
 
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Madhatter32 said:
Glad you agree then -- I think. The question of whether neutrality has been breached is a matter of debate (even perhaps opinion) but ultimately needs a factual predicate. But chalking it up to "imperialism" rather than a dispute over the terms of the treaty are two very different things.
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I don't agree at all. I've seen no evidence of a breach of neutrality. And I see no justification to take the canal back if there was.

I have seen evidence that 45 threatened to take the canal back unless fees are lowered. Which would make this nothing more than a pretext to threaten military force if fees aren't lowered. Which is a disgusting abuse of power.

Much like his waffling of support for TikTok is about forcing it to be sold to a political ally for his political benefit. To bring it back to the topic at hand.
 
Razorpit said:
There's a difference between losing a court case and not getting your day in court. Trump did not get his day in court. He didn't "lose" any case no matter what CNN tells you otherwise.


It does, so stop using this utterly ridiculous example.

I never get why some people are so dead set against the U.S. controlling things they built, and requiring nations to live up to the agreements they signed, but are perfectly okay with allowing real communist dictatorships do whatever they please? Controlling the Panama Canal, greenhouse gas emissions, low worker's wages, censorship. 🤔
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Who said I’m okay with any of that?
My wife’s family and my only family in this hemisphere fled a communist country after reeducation so it’s a bit of a weird comment to make really.
I do hold US to a higher standard though due to all the claims of democracy, freedom etc.

As for gas emissions I’m far more concerned about Australia’s failure to reduce ours than anyone else.
 
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anthogag said:
Right, the canal. Yes, a Dicktator President and his Nazi-saluting sidekick would just takeover the canal, it would make Putin proud. But, the US we all like would explore other options like co-administration of the canal.
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You guys are in for a rough 4 years with all this bitching and hatred. There is more than you (seemingly don’t) understand. Hopefully you find some peace. Misery is awful.
 
drrich2 said:
As for 'fair and equitable,' the tests render an objective number to be considered.
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Tests that are culturally biased do not produce truly objective results. They obscure the underlying bias. I am not saying that these tests or the admissions procedures relying on them are intentionally biased. However, when a model or test contains inherent bias, any ostensibly objective decisions derived from it will also be biased.
 
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Madhatter32 said:
That maybe one view -- but I believe it is not the correct way of looking at things. It's not an issue of "imperialism." If a country enters into an agreement (or in this case even more than a mere agreement -- an actual treaty), and then proceeds to breach that agreement, it is not entitled to keep the compensation it received. This is how rule of law works. See Panama Canal Treaty and Neutrality Treaty (September 7, 1977).

nypost.com

Panama is violating its Canal Treaty by cozying up to China — risking US safety

Donald Trump has threatened action to end the outsourcing of Panama Canal operations to a Hong Kong company, which has given Beijing de facto control of a vital conduit of US maritime traffic.
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Merely alleging treaty violations is not sufficient reason to take military action. That would be the action of an imperialist authoritarian.
 
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vantelimus said:
Tests that are culturally biased do not produce truly objective results. They obscure the underlying bias. I am not saying that these tests or the admissions procedures relying on them are intentionally biased. However, when a model or test contains inherent bias, any ostensibly objective decisions derived from it will also be biased.
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Wrong again. There is no real evidence that tests are "culturally biased". That very argument -- especially when used to explain underachievement -- is usually itself based on biased presumptions about groups of people.
 
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Madhatter32 said:
Wrong again. There is no real evidence that tests are "culturally biased". That very argument -- especially when used to explain underachievement -- is usually itself based on biased presumptions about groups of people.
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Oh come-on, we all know "poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids..." - Joe Biden. 😄😉
 
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