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You have zero clue what Jobs and Cook do. Are you one of those people who post, 'This would have never happened when Jobs was running Apple"?
To answer your question, No.

Also, you have zero clue what I do. Not sure how either your point or mine has any relevance on my original commentary, but there you go. :D
 
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Sorry Tim, I don't think there's any misunderstanding with Paris and San Bernardino. There's nothing wrong with turning away people that can't be properly vetted. That doesn't mean banning anyone of a certain religion but pausing immigration from countries where groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda have a foothold...absolutely.

Spot on ! Tim does seem to have a very simple view of the world. He really just needs do focus on running Apple..... And finding the Person responsible for the design of the new battery case!
 
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Sorry, but I have to laugh. Do you seriously expect that terrorists would not pass any vetting and come in as legitimate?
While I have no idea of their countries citizen registration procedures I am absolutely sure terrorists can get REAL papers anytime they wish. (Passport with false name etc.) They have enough money and resources to do so.
Proven in San Bernadino.

By the time we vet the really innocent "carefully" there is a good chance they will not make it.

Nobody has a solution to this problem. What we are seeing now is the result of years and years of failed international politics.

Sorry, I have to laugh at you. Yes, in fact the terrorists attempt to come in without using false papers. It happens all the time. And they get caught all the time.

Again, not asking that they be turned away. Just that they be held in refugee camps until vetted properly. If one innocent American is killed by a terrorist who is let in via the refugee program that is too many.
 
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Spot on ! Tim does seem to have a very simple view of the world. He really just needs do focus on running Apple..... And finding the Person responsible for the design of the new battery case!
Perhaps Apple decided to design something functional even though it doesn't look great. Nearly every review I've seen is mostly positive (outside of looks). Like this one:

 
This ^^ (I assume you meant Tim as the first word in the 2nd paragraph)

Steve ran a company (brilliantly). That was it.
Tim USES the company as his own personal political soap box.

I can't wait till he is no longer CEO.

P.S. before @rdowns responds with a 'how do you know?' nonsense question. my reply is: perception is reality in this case.
Sorry about the mistake but thanks for the catch - i have fixed the original post.

As I said, I like Tim. I think he has done well for Apple in many regards. I just am not fond of overly political activist CEOs. Apple is way bigger and more profitable than it has every been and Tim was doing this even before he became CEO. The growing pains are showing with some recent release screwups (the watch) and quality issues (mostly iOS issues). However, as much as people complain about the products in these threads, the reality is that they continue to sell more, indicating that they continue to hit the target audience well. They have also done a spectacular job navigating the Chinese market which has fuel a significant part of their growth. Not sure who else could have achieved all of this. So for now Tim is fine, but I would like him to be more laser focused like steve was.
 
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When Apple stops hiding hundreds of billions of dollars overseas to avoid U.S. taxes, then he can lecture us about Syrian immigrants. Until then, shut-up Tim, and keep APPL (115.72, 2.13%) on the upswing.

So if you're pro-theft, only then you become qualified to have an opinion on a bad situation most people here aren't within a million miles of being able to relate to? How does this work?

What's your resume look like in comparison to Cook's where you can yap but he needs to shut up?
 
I applaud his endeavours for the LGBT community, I think he should retire and focus on that full time.

Time for a new CEO, Nardella!
 
So if you're pro-theft, only then you become qualified to have an opinion on a bad situation most people here aren't within a million miles of being able to relate to? How does this work?

What's your resume look like in comparison to Cook's where you can yap but he needs to shut up?

No entiendo, amigo?

What I said is when you're anti-theft, only then can you yap about Syrian economic migrants. Meanwhile, Tim can shut the **** up and concentrate on maintaining his portion of my portfolio.
 
Again, not asking that they be turned away. Just that they be held in refugee camps until vetted properly. If one innocent American is killed by a terrorist who is let in via the refugee program that is too many.

The vetting process takes about a year and a half at least, and yeah, they're kept in refugee camps that entire time.

Now I agree that we should be vetting people because they are from a politically tumultuous area of the world, and ISIS could very well be sneaking some of their own in among the innocents. It's better to be safe that sorry.

But at the same time, I'm very much against the notion that we should bar them entry just because a couple may or may not be potential terrorists. Sobriety is what we need the most. Keep vigilant, but try not to sell out our own ideals and standards for a small measure of comfort.
 
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Problem is that despite being in the land of the FREE, free speech etc.
too many times it is impossible to say the truth or have a different viewpoint/opinion.

Whenever somebody dares, they are being pummeled into "politically correct" until they comply......
Ain't that the truth!

The narrow-minded are never going to stop trying to put everyone in their 'safe and neat' little conformist boxes; those who dare to differ or stray better have spines of steel cause they'll be ostracized and publicly shamed.
 
Steve Jobs barely got involved in anything remotely politics. Although he did go to the white house and tell Obama that manufacturing jobs were not coming back to the US because of labor laws, education and salaries.

Tim on the other hand spends almost as much time on political issues (especially gay rights) as he does running Apple. I like Tim, but please spend more time doing your job as CEO.

Edit: started second paragraph with steve when I meant tim. fixed now.

Quite so.

Only you're much too lenient on Cook. He's in a politically-correct false world of his own that bears no relation to reality. The despicable Apple battery case is the last straw. Cook might as well be spitting on Apple.

I can't wait for Cook to leave Apple for good. It makes me sad to say that, as I was an early defender of his when everyone was calling for his head, and Jobs put his trust in the man. But he has hijacked Apple for his own damaging political agenda and rebelled against Apple's philosophy.
 
How does bringing these people into the United States solve that problem? it's not like these people come here and assimilate into our society. They're certainly not doing that in Europe. No what happens is bad ones get in too and innocent people die.

If Tim Cook cares so much about all this stuff perhaps he should go back to Alabama and run for congress or the senate and let someone else run Apple.



So because our vetting sucks that means let anyone in the country? BS. How many refugees is Tim Cook planning to take in?

The initial wave may not integrate, but their children most certainly will. I have seen it with Bosnian refugees where I live. It only takes 1 gen then done.
 
For a guy who got an award, this thread sure has gone off the deep end.

This is something I've noticed on Facebook, and now here. It's like people pick a boogieman to project all their fear and angst onto, and attribute any little thing done as being part of some "agenda" that they personally dislike. Once it happens once, it rolls on from there.

Like I have a local news channel on my Facebook feed, and they asked if anyone was going to watch the presidential address concerning San Bernardino the other day. There was few hundred replies, first starting out with "no", "no", "no", "hell no", "I don't want to watch what that liar says", and blah blah blah. Once it came and went, someone popped in and said that he apologized on the terrorists behalf, and badmouthed American, and holy damn, the floodgates opened. Nothing but people screaming, wailing, and gnashing their teeth over what a traitor he was, how he's a Muslim plant out to destroy the country, how he should be impeached, and blah blah blah. Responses like this are pretty much an inevitability anytime Obama pops up.

Now I know someone's going to pop in and say that I'm claiming that people who don't like Obama are idiots or something, put a bunch of words in my mouth, then call me a liberal with a sneer. That's not what I'm saying. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike Obama. He's not the antichrist, though.

Now it's the same thing with Tim Cook and his charities. Gay CEO guy donates to AIDS research, gets an award for gay rights activism, and whoa ****. Here we go.

HE HAS AN AGENDA!
 
Tim, spend your time ending crap software releases. We don't care that you like dudes or think you know what to do with refugees. Maybe you could put them up in your house and then when the go jihad, we can say told you this was stupid.
 
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The total collapse of the creative/professional/productive Apple product line, the move towards fashion teenage items, and the rush of the CEO into politics and far-left ideology, all of them seem to be closely tied and connected. First we lose the Mac. Now we lose the brand unless we adhere to its politics ideology. Not my brand anymore.
 
What's the problem? Obama received a Nobel Peace Prize within 6 months of his presidency. Yasser Arafat won a Nobel Peace Prize. It is apparent that prize-giving organizations are often hard-pressed as to whom to award a prize, in order that its existence is maintained.
 
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The total collapse of the creative/professional/productive Apple product line, the move towards fashion teenage items, and the rush of the CEO into politics and far-left ideology, all of them seem to be closely tied and connected. First we lose the Mac. Now we lose the brand unless we adhere to its politics ideology. Not my brand anymore.
Huh? Apple as a company has always supported left-wing ideology.
 
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America would not exist if people had been turned away for whatever reason.


Why only pay what is legally required?

Wrong. Carter banned Iranians. WWII we rounded up the Japanese, during a war we won by the way. You can question the strat, but at the end of the day, we won.
This country shut down immigration for a while in the past, like decades. We have banned immigration of communists in the 50's. etc. etc.

We have a long history of putting the safety of this country first. Lately though, these liberals and democrats just cant seem to say no to anyone, no matter what the risk. That doesn't work. USA first. This current batch of politicians doesn't seem to think that way.

We have quota and controls to keep this country running. It's a pretty simple concept but Mr. O has been encouraging the flood from the south and people from lands breeding terrorists. What the heck?? It makes your head spin.
 
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"...discussed a wide range of ongoing social issues, including the Syrian refugee crisis, climate change, Apple's charitable work, access to quality education, privacy and discrimination."

Syrian refugee crisis - US government created
Climate Change - US government created - jury still out on whether is natural or not. Remember that they are now using Geo-Engineering to modify the weather.
Access to quality education - exceedingly difficult for all, as majority is geared towards producing atheists and gross materialists.
Privacy - US government NSA presently engaged in eliminating all traces of personal privacy
Discrimination - US government tool used in 'Divide and Rule' policies for generations.
 
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"Cook offered praise for Robert F. Kennedy and said he has two photographs of him in his office that he looks at each day. "I think about his example, what it means to me as an American, but also more specifically, to my role as Apple CEO." "

Further hard factual proof that present-day Mega-corporations and Politics are one.
 
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