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Yada Yada Yada. No one cares. All they need is the silly apple logo on the back and they will buy it! Such is the life of an american. Status > Perfomance. Oh Sheeple. :confused:

The iPod Hi-Fi would beg to disagree. As would the Pippin, the eMate, the Newton, MobileMe, the G4 Cube, the hockey puck mouse, eWorld, the QuickTake camera, and (some would argue) the first AppleTV and the first couple iterations of the iMac.

But hey, I'm not one to interfere with a comfy delusion if it somehow maintains your sense of superiority over others. So, ignore the facts and have at it, buddy.
 
I love some of these anti Apple people. 15-16 years ago they laughed at Apple and Steve saying the company has no chance and is D00MED. Now those same clowns claim Apple is D00MED (once again) now that Steve is gone. Makes me smile. :)

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Lion is not a "significant contribution to society".

Kinda need an OS if you're going to have a computer. It's also the same core OS that is on the iPhone and iPad. I would say it's a pretty significant contribution to Apple's ecosystem and kinda important for anything they release into society.
 
Who better to talk to than the creeps at Goldman who singlehandedly almost managed to bankrupt the whole world... then got their greedy asses bailed out by every taxpayer across the globe while never of course relinquishing their ridiculously mega rich bonuses...

He should have chosen a better forum to express his ideas...
 
I tend to like Tim Cook, but his answer to the last question raises a question I have posited before, which is: who is now the "vision" person at Apple? I can see Tim Cook very ably tending to that which has been created, and which he helped create. Apple in the last few years has excelled more at being good at business than improving its products, IMO, and I think being good at business was always Tim Cook's job. But the direction of Apple and deciding which markets to enter and coming up with new ideas for those markets was always ascribed to Steve Jobs. To me it seems like Apple is continuing with Tim Cook doing what he's always done but with a new title. I'm sure for those in the know, they would see other changes, but from the outside, he hasn't yet said anything terribly insightful about his industry. I think Steve Jobs and Tim Cook had very different jobs, and it seems like Tim Cook is still fulfilling his former role, but the heart of the question that was asked to Tim Cook I think is: in what way he will be like Steve Jobs or in what way he'll do something else? I guess his non-answer was in some ways saying he would just try continuing steering the ship in the direction Steve Jobs had left it. But that in itself is very different from Steve Jobs. Jobs in no way tried to keep the ship going in Gil Amelio's direction (well, maybe in some ways, in that he was hired for his OS).
 
Dear Apple,

I like my Macbook Pro, I really like my iPhone....

but I LOVE my 2 Apple TVs.

Someday this will be another "pillar".

Happy Apple Customer
 
Apparently we have the mega rich bankers in our company boys judging by my -1 vote, or some people with strange tastes who really enjoyed the 2008 world financial meltdown.

I tend to like Tim Cook, but his answer to the last question raises a question I have posited before, which is: who is now the "vision" person at Apple?
Nobody, as witnessed by the train wreck that is os x 10.7 vista, which we all know by now SJ was way too ill to have a say on. Ive is still in design of course and he can be trusted as long as he doesn't of course keep repeating himself to the point of boredom, and Forestall and a bunch of others are backstabbing each other to get the mini Steve role. As witnessed by the apparent interface freeze that has befallen ios 5 that still looks like the original iphone ios even on a device like the ipad (iphone small sized icons with minimal iterative additions based on what the jb community or android is doing) apparently no one has the vision from any of them either. Now that we know Steve's health trajectory in the final years, no wonder ios development in these couple of years has been in terms of vision in the interface stalled and lion is such bloatware.
 
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Apparently we have the mega rich bankers in our company boys judging by my -1 vote, or some people with strange tastes who really enjoyed the 2008 world financial meltdown.


Nobody, as witnessed by the train wreck that is os x 10.7 vista, which we all know by now SJ was way too ill to have a say on. Ive is still in design of course and he can be trusted as long as he doesn't of course keep repeating himself to the point of boredom, and Forestall and a bunch of others are backstabbing each other to get the mini Steve role. As witnessed by the apparent interface freeze that has befallen ios 5 that still looks like the original iphone ios even on a device like the ipad (iphone small sized icons with minimal iterative additions based on what the jb community or android is doing) apparently no one has the vision from any of them either. Now that we know Steve's health trajectory in the final years, no wonder ios development in these couple of years has been in terms of vision in the interface stalled and lion is such bloatware.

I was thinking some of those things but have learned not to say them so explicitly in this forum. I've worked for Apple, been a consumer with them over 2 decades, been at MR officially since 2003, but I still am labeled anti-Apple from time to time.
 
The horrors! I never thought Steve was THAT much of an arse to GRILL his co-workers.

Actually, if it said what it was supposed to say, 'drilled', that sounds a little worse maybe (but would make a good movie)

Your comments are disrespectful to say the least.

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Yada Yada Yada. No one cares. All they need is the silly apple logo on the back and they will buy it! Such is the life of an american. Status > Perfomance. Oh Sheeple. :confused:

No one cares about your fraking opinion...
 
Shouldnt you be droning on in an Android forum about how awesome the Samsung Galaxy Skyfire SII 4G LTE Limited Edition Note with commemorative stylus is?

Most Apple fans would not even know a Limited edition version of this product even exists. I didn't know till now. But you do though. How come you know so much about all the weird versions of Android products?

I smell an Android fan. Maybe you should be posting on the Android forums?
 
Very important to Apple.

"Cook reiterated his position that no company is doing more or being more transparent about the issue than Apple. Cook specifically addressed Apple's efforts to address underage labor, safety, and excessive overtime. Apple has also partnered with the Fair Labor Association to conduct what is likely the largest and most extensive audit in manufacturing history. Apple will also be continuing to collect its own data and will be releasing it monthly on the company's website."

Now I'm sure we'll hear from the other 70 or so Foxconn clients about what thy have been and continue to do on this front. Starting with Microsoft, I'm sure thy have been hard at work on the issue after that 100+ suicide threat protest last month

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Nobody, as witnessed by the train wreck that is os x 10.7 vista,

Sorry that you don't like Lion, but it is not a universal opinion. And you disle doesn't equal it being a failure.

which we all know by now SJ was way too ill to have a say on.

No we dont KNOW any such thing

Forestall and a bunch of others are backstabbing each other to get the mini Steve role.

Again, not a fact

As witnessed by the apparent interface freeze that has befallen ios 5 that still looks like the original iphone ios even on a device like the ipad

Which might been done for a reason other than your assumed lack of creativity

Now that we know Steve's health trajectory in the final years,

We might know a few broad strokes but we really don't know enough to make comment bout who did or didn't do what.
 
I was thinking some of those things but have learned not to say them so explicitly in this forum. I've worked for Apple, been a consumer with them over 2 decades, been at MR officially since 2003, but I still am labeled anti-Apple from time to time.

"Viel Feind, viel Ehr'."
- Georg von Frundsberg

There's no shame in being called Anti-Apple on Macrumors. Many members of this site have been in the reality distortion field too long and mistake buying and using Apple products for a major world religion.

About some of the other stuff that's been said in this thread:

Tim Cook is good curator. Since we like to compare Apple with a religion, it's fair to compare him with Pope Peter the First: The rock to build a church on, but certainly NOT the person you would expect ANY new visions or directions from. A rock solid curator and accountant, but nobody who would even dream about thinking something risky - and definitely NEVER do it.

"Steady as she goes" is all we will be seeing from Apple until the "product pipeline for four years" that supposedly was Steve's legacy will have run dry. After that, Apple will fall back into insignificance - where they already were in the years without Jobs at the helm.

From all that we've learned so far, Jobs ran the company like a French king would have run his court: One man at the top, dominating over his underlings that spend their days cutting each others throats over a second of the king's attention, trying to appease him wherever possible. And no worthy heir who could walk in his steps and the lead the realm to a blooming future.

Cook will only institutionalize as much of Steve's legacy as he can. But he has no vision of his own, and neither has any of executive staff. They only added flesh to Steve's abstract ideas. At least that's what their marketing always tried to make us believe. Imagine the horror of all those Apple fans out there when it turns out to be true.

This is a fast moving industry and world. Unless Steve left them with a clear concept for the next big thing in the pipeline, by 2015 nobody will be talking much about Apple anymore. Without a visionary in a leading position, the rest of the industry will soon leapfrog them. Android already is technologically more advanced than iOS and has a much higher adoption rate. OS X has been living the life of an unloved stepchild for several years now; Leopard was the last significant release of that system, Snow Leopard and Lion were not more than second rate service packs for Leopard.

And the competition is not sleeping and rapidly cranking out more affordable and in many cases even superior products. I would not even trade in my Samsung Galaxy S2 for two iPhone 4S, and I certainly will never buy a crippled iOS-product again in my life -- I gave Apple three chances here and they disappointed me each time. But iOS clearly is their cash cow now, and I doubt that OS X will have much of a life left. That means that Apple and I will part ways in the foreseeable future, and there is not much sense in buying an over-priced, but nice-to-look-at Apple PC just to put Linux on it. So the day they officially EOL OS X - or announce that it will be merged with iOS - somebody else will get my business. And I doubt that I will be the only one who will decide to move on when that day comes.
 
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hoing said:
Yada Yada Yada. No one cares. All they need is the silly apple logo on the back and they will buy it! Such is the life of an american. Status > Perfomance. Oh Sheeple. :confused:

Sounds like someone from a country who can only invent crappy stuff or steal others ideas.
 
Very important to Apple.

"Cook reiterated his position that no company is doing more or being more transparent about the issue than Apple. Cook specifically addressed Apple's efforts to address underage labor, safety, and excessive overtime. Apple has also partnered with the Fair Labor Association to conduct what is likely the largest and most extensive audit in manufacturing history. Apple will also be continuing to collect its own data and will be releasing it monthly on the company's website."

Really? Where is it? Their and here for that matter.
 
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