"Fake news" has been around for years, if not decades. The problem is that many people under the age of 35 lack critical thinking and discernment skills. That's a real shame.
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Tim Cook Describes Fake News as 'One of Today's Chief Problems'
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From my point of view, that is an all too common, and entirely too narrow, take on Apple.
The world is so completely different now than when Steve was here. Things are evolving exponentially. Just in these few short years since Steve's passing, Apple has grown into such a different beast. Way bigger, more diverse and far-reaching that Steve ever knew. Add to this the explosion that is "social media" (where the potential and platform for fake news and alternative facts has never been more prevalent) and it's actual real fact that Tim's consideration set is simply so much more than Steve ever had to navigate. Not even comparable. Comparing now and then and what someone might have done or not is a waste of energy. It really is apples/oranges. I do think Steve had a pretty good grasp of where Apple was heading with regard to success, scope, diversification, influence, etc. Knowing Steve (like I don't), I am confident he felt Tim had the experience, strength and balls to guide Apple through such an unprecedented environment. And I unapologetically go on record as claiming Tim has done an outstanding job with maybe the most difficult leadership opportunity in business. I'm not the least bit worried about Apple's future. One thing often lost in these types of discussions is that Apple is so much more than just Steve or just Tim or just [insert any Apple executive's name that you know here). Like all companies, there is a ridiculously disproportionate number of individuals at Apple that are more responsible for what you know as Apple than what Steve or Tim have been responsible for. Not to discredit their significant contributions, but it is important to remember that they are the face of the company, the brand. And as such, they garner all the glory and scrutiny. Comes with the gig. But Steve, no Steve... Tim, no Tim... Apple will be just fine. Suggesting otherwise disrespects a lot of passionate, intelligent, purposeful individuals working hard towards a better tomorrow.
The irony being that the vast majority of "shares" on social media from places like InfoWars, Brietbart, and Fox are from the baby boomers who have just recently come online.....
Maybe. But depending on what those robots spit out, the current administration would have the last call on what is/isn't fact. That, alone, should be beyond troubling to any war-blooded, soulful human. Besides, do we really want soulless robots creating our media? #nothanks
There was a time when "fake news" simply meant hoax stories. Then during the election the left managed to redefine it to include any kind of opinion they don't like. Now you have a watered down, meaningless, politicized term. It's just a fun thing to throw back in the face of your opponents.
This happened because people were bored with the News and the news industry was failing to make money. People want to be entertained, thus you get entertainment as news. You get news tailored to different people groups, which confirms their beliefs. You get people angry so they come back for more. You throw facts out the window because nobody cares any more. In this day of high speed communications and digital manipulations, how can we even discern the truth? More than ever we are bombarded with information overload. Furthermore, years of research into psychology combined with advancements in technology have given the master manipulators the tools they need to control large populations..
I find that the more educated you are, the more you care about real news. Not just "Murica" news, but international news and how the various pieces fit together on a global scale. I've always found the news to be intensely fascinating because it's this huge puzzle and I like making the connections and seeing how certain actions taken by one group can affect another on the other side of the world. History also tends to be cyclical, so it's fun to predict patterns and try to find ways to avoid repeating mistakes.
So yeah, this problem won't be fixed until education improves. Education won't improve until we have politicians in office who care about education. Let's face it—many politicians don't care about education because dumb people are easier to manipulate and control. These politicians are propped up by lobbyists who want to maintain their corporate interests and the status quo. You can't get rid of lobbyists without passing legislation, therefore we are likely going to need a revolution to change things for the better.
I find that the more educated you are, the more you care about real news. Not just "Murica" news, but international news and how the various pieces fit together on a global scale. I've always found the news to be intensely fascinating because it's this huge puzzle and I like making the connections and seeing how certain actions taken by one group can affect another on the other side of the world. History also tends to be cyclical, so it's fun to predict patterns and try to find ways to avoid repeating mistakes.
So yeah, this problem won't be fixed until education improves. Education won't improve until we have politicians in office who care about education. Let's face it—many politicians don't care about education because dumb people are easier to manipulate and control. These politicians are propped up by lobbyists who want to maintain their corporate interests and the status quo. You can't get rid of lobbyists without passing legislation, therefore we are likely going to need a revolution to change things for the better.
For those of us in the USA, that is almost entirely the fault of the education system and the 'professional educators' worrying more about standardized test performance rather than actually teaching kids to think and other skills needed for life.
So you want Trump not to be Trump?
He is a numpty. A merchant idiot tailor-made for the uneducated masses.
This man can only articulate his thoughts as long as they do not take more than 140 characters, because they lack critical thinking. Very Jeffersonian. LOL!
This man is the President of the US - you simply could not have made it up.
Exactly. It's pathetic seeing the media work itself into a frenzy over "Fake News", when the real crying shame is that our culture has deteriorated to a point that most people simply can't tell that it is fake anymore.
Not exactly an adult approach to the problem! Being an uninformed ignoramus does the world no good at all. People need to learn to dig deeper when presented with stuff that doesn't ring true.
By the way it sounds like Cook and Facebook are preparing for large scale censorship, that should scare everyone reading this thread. Fake news wont be a problem anywhere near as big as widely deployed censorship.
I grew up in the NYC area so have seen Trump for 30+ years. Always seemed to be a straight up guy and nobody really had an issue with him. Until he ran for President. I think he's a strong leader and will do what he thinks is right. Something we sorely need as the last 4 presidents were not leaders.
So you are going to trust Apple, Facebook and whomever to censor the news for you? Hell China is doing that right now.
I still see the reaction to fake news being worst than the reality of fake news.
As long as we have free access to information facts will always rise to the top.
I still see the reaction to fake news being worst than the reality of fake news.
There in lies the problem, you see negative news as being the truth and reject somebody that sees it differently. The problem here is that we have the likes of Facebook and now Apple saying they are going to filter that news for you. Believe me that is a far bigger issue than any fake news seen lately.
As long as we have free access to information facts will always rise to the top.
Tim does not care about your privacy. He cares that you think Apple cares about your privacy so that you will buy an iPhone. This social justice Apple is all about marketing and Tim's self riotousness (which is why I will never buy another Apple product). Tim is creating a brand image here, nothing more. Why? Because it sells iPhones and fills his bank account with millions of dollars so he can continue to send out emails with MLK quotes at the end to make himself seem more of a justice warrior. He clearly likes to feel important.
Apple never stood for diversity and human rights....it stood for making the worlds best products to help improve everyone's life. Not the rich with $10k watches. Apple is now about luxury and less about the common man. Tim has turned Apple into a social justice organization that makes luxury phones. Tim Cook will go down in history as the CEO that destroyed Apple. The iPhone train is going to run out of steam at some point and he has done nothing to diversify Apples portfolio. There is no plan B. Sure it's diversified with woman, LGBT, minorities, and the workforce and apparently hires people on visas.....but that means nothing when all you make is phones, watches, and occasionally a Mac that nobody wants. Tim Cooks portrait will be hung up with Gil Amilio in the hall of shame. Someday this social justice crap won't be popular and nobody will care about Tim and his movements. In reality Apple has done nothing that will stand the test of time. In the long road of things, his FBI charade means nothing. If the government wanted Apple to comply...they would or Timmy would end up in jail. Watch how fast he caves when faced with a jail cell. Suddenly social justice won't matter to him. The only reason it went away was because the FBI found another way in...no because of our heroes stance on privacy. Apples core is about money, shareholders, & profit. It is profitable to be the only game in town that appears to support your privacy. Apple is selling you out for advertising just like Google, don't kid yourself. Where do you think all the road traffic data in the world comes from on Google maps? Your phone. Did Timmy ask you if it was okay? No! But I thought he cared about your privacy? Clearly not if your phone is using your location for traffic data that you don't earn a cent on and don't know about. iAd knew everything about you so I could sell ads to a very specific group. Apple knows more about you than you probably realize. It probably has the same profiling tools that Google does....they just don't talk about it. Apple is very secretive....ever wonder why? Is it really to hide products or is it to hide other things we don't know about. There sure is a lot of employees on the payroll for a company that doesn't make anything new often and has the manufacturing offshore. There is probably a department in there dedicated to tracking and learning about you. Steve Jobs would sell you out in a heart beat as well if he thought it was what he needed. Read up on him if you don't believe me. Pretending Apple is anything else but a greedy corporation is delusional. At the end of the day it comes down to how much money they made....they are not a 501(C)(3).
Herr Kook vill tell you ALL vhat to zhink unt feel unt BUY!! Hi-Y'ALL HITLA!!
Don't these elitist all goosestep so efficiently these days?
Don't these elitist all goosestep so efficiently these days?
Leader. LOL!
Hitler was a strong leader, right? (He lead the German people, starving after WWI, seeking for a "Make Germany Great Again!".) The parallels are not lost to some (clearly, not you.).
Leaders were Stalin, Mao, and other depots littered throughout history. They all knew how to manipulate people to their own ends. But now the new depots have direct access to the masses, exponentially, at speed of light, without any flow control.
You are, apparently, hungry to being led. And you want to be led by this numpty-elect.
Numpty (via Urban Dictionary):
Someone who (sometimes unwittingly) by speech or action demonstrates a lack of knowledge or misconception of a particular subject or situation to the amusement of others.
This defines precisely the persona of our president.
And, like I said before, you could not have made it up.
There are very very few absolute facts, I've brought this up in other forums but just because you accept one perspective doesn't make it true.
Think it is that easy to get to the facts, consider law enforcement and the problems cops have with eye witness reports. Worst consider how many innocent people are convicted of crimes every year.
It gets even worst with science because you have people passing off theory as fact. People really don't seem to understand that theories can have been well tested or maybe hardly tested at all. The level of truth in a theory is highly variable and can literally take hundreds of years to be accepted as a truth.
Err no they are an alternative way to look at a problem. Nothing the Trump administration has offered up as alternative truth is beyond an educated discussion. In many cases the oppositions truth is simply something they manufactured for political leverage over the last decade often for huge financial gain. Sometimes they have so effectively woven posturing with truth that entire segments of society have given up critical thinking to follow the left.And no Trump supporters, "alternative facts" are just lies.
Me I'm tired of politics. I hear so much negative non sense from the right and especially the left that i really want to listen anymore. I do want to see the country lifted out of the doldrums that the Democrats put us in. That is why Trump got my vote. It has little to do with his beliefs but rather the result if the Democrats demonstrating that they didn't deserve any offices in Washington. Im actually surprised that the entire country agreed with me. The only fact at play here was that 8 years of screwing over the country by the left was too much.
I can't believe it took 4 pages for the first Hitler mention.
Ive already said a couple of times in this thread that the reaction to fake news will be worst than the little bit of fake news that has hit the tubes. Censorship is a evil and hideous beast that will do more damage to this nation than any fake news we have seen to date. People should be up in arms over the thought of wide spread censorship.
The fact that some see censorship as acceptable is really disgusting. The recent happenings at Various colleges should highlight the degree to which this nation has slipped with regards to the free flow of information. Sadly it seems like the more "liberal" the college the greater the censorship of ideas.
Fake news simply doesn't bother me enough to accept the alternatives being thrown around.
The fact that some see censorship as acceptable is really disgusting. The recent happenings at Various colleges should highlight the degree to which this nation has slipped with regards to the free flow of information. Sadly it seems like the more "liberal" the college the greater the censorship of ideas.
Fake news simply doesn't bother me enough to accept the alternatives being thrown around.
Interesting that "fake news" wasn't a problem until the day Trump was elected.
And let me guess...
All of the news sources you agree with are legitimate, all news sources you disagree wit are fake. Got it.
And let me guess...
All of the news sources you agree with are legitimate, all news sources you disagree wit are fake. Got it.
I think a lot of people, especially young people, don't really value free speech anymore. They don't get defensive when you accuse them of being against free speech the way someone might if you called them a racist. They'll say "Well of COURSE I don't support harmful speech!" where harmful is defined as things they don't believe in.
People increasingly see free speech as just a tool to achieve some ideological goal, but once that goal is achieved, you have to lock down the speech to prevent any regression from that success.
What a bunch of bull crap!
Speaking of vision, the only reason Trump won so big and the democrats lost so big is that the nation didn't accept the vision the democrats had for the nation. Basically a rejection of the police stare mentality that Clinton has and the horrible impact Obama had on the nation.
You can't dismiss how badly the democrats lost in the last election. The lost for good cause as they effectively have failed to represent the people. They became the party of the big corporations and big government.
Isn't that just what you did?
You ignore all the treat leaders throughout history that did great things for their countries by having a little strength of character and the ability to get people to buy into their vision.
Speaking of vision, the only reason Trump won so big and the democrats lost so big is that the nation didn't accept the vision the democrats had for the nation. Basically a rejection of the police stare mentality that Clinton has and the horrible impact Obama had on the nation.
Gives me a break, nothing Trump has done could possibly link him with the truly despicable leaders the world has seen. In fact he has corrected some really horrible policies of the Obama administration.
Actually people are hungry for a vibrant economy where everybody gets a piece of the action not just those living in Washington. We suffered through 12 or more years of attacks upon the middle class, unethical immigration, a general disdain for the Constitution and a general F-U attitude from the big cities to the rest of the country.
You can't dismiss how badly the democrats lost in the last election. The lost for good cause as they effectively have failed to represent the people. They became the party of the big corporations and big government.
Well if you cant cone up with anything better than that , i have to assume it is a definition you came up with to describe yourself. I hope you realize that fake news surrounding Trump is really strong as the liberal media sees hime as a target. I suspect we will see 4 years of really strong fake news generation to try to discredit him at every move. So far he has done what he was elected to do.
Isn't that just what you did?