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Tim Cook gearing up for a fight with Palm?
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That's a big if. Remember the Blackberry Storm? What's funny about the so-called "iPhone and iPod killers" is that they never kill anything.
Palm Pre: Runs on the smallest CDMA network in the United States, runs only applications based on web technologies, limited SDK, no 3D accelerated applications, has no desktop syncing solution (media must be manually copied to phone in respective folders via Windows Explorer or Finder), likely is going to cost at least $199+ with contract, no podcasts, TV shows, movie rental or movie purchase solutions (music-only store provided by Amazon), etc.
Someone will have this running on Verizon (the largest carrier in the US) in no time.
The iPhone's current SDK is very limiting.
This is a negative? I would much rather have this option for my iPhone. Currently, it's a pain to put files on/off the iPhone (requires WiFi) and I can't exactly place them where I want either. I can only place files in a specific App's "sandbox." And with downloading, files are only downloaded to the App's "sandbox" too. As for the syncing, I feel the iPhone is too reliable on iTunes. I wish Apple would cut the cord and make the iPhone a more stand alone device (but that would probably lead to less iTunes revenue).
meh.
Even though it can be crappy at times, Sprint has Sprint TV which will give you live TV on your phone.
Oh, I have my DVD player at home for this. Watching movies on a 3 inch screen is not for me. Too each his own.
You're probably right. Psystar is 100X more a threat to Apple's bottom line than the Palm Pre using multi-touch is.
this topic is pure fantasy. When Cook was asked if he was talking about Palm, he demurred:
"I don’t want to talk about any specific company. We are ready to suit up and go against anyone. However, we will not stand for having our IP ripped off."
Remeber Jon Rubinstein had its time at Apple as senior Vice President. They show off at various MacWorld Keynotes before left the company with Tenevean in 2006. He knows how Apple works, and he isnt seems a fool. He knows that all patents that jobs claims from iphone are hype, and he know that can build something better than Apple if use that 9-year background knowledge wisely.
"I don’t want to talk about any specific company. We are ready to suit up and go against anyone. However, we will not stand for having our IP ripped off."
Remeber Jon Rubinstein had its time at Apple as senior Vice President. They show off at various MacWorld Keynotes before left the company with Tenevean in 2006. He knows how Apple works, and he isnt seems a fool. He knows that all patents that jobs claims from iphone are hype, and he know that can build something better than Apple if use that 9-year background knowledge wisely.
It has nothing to do with the actions themselves. Ignore the usage explanations; read the Claims. It's for certain configurations of touchscreens.
Also note that the application dates from 2004, yet has never been approved.
A public example of pinch predates the iPhone by almost 15 years. One more time:
Watch the Starfire movie
It's almost certain that the Pre will end up on all USA carriers, just as the Touch Pro and other phones have. They've already talked about GSM versions.
It just points out that Apple's given up millions of sales, by locking themselves out of 2/3 of the USA market.
Very limiting? What makes you say that? I assume you've looked at the SDK and found thousands of things you can't do with it versus the thousands of things you can.
Apple wouldn't just do that on purpose. at&t has some crafty lawyers - Apple didn't just wake up one morning and "decide" to "give up" millions of dollars.
Come on, you know better than that. Once Apple is done with whatever contractual obligations it has, I think it's safe to assume they plan on going crazy selling it to anyone who'll buy one.
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I'm sure Palm's Patent lawyers looked into EVERYTHING before they even started putting this phone together.. If they thought for a second that they would be in trouble for patent issues I'm sure they would have let the executive's now before they spent all that money on R/D plus material.. I know some company's are stupid when it comes to this but I doubt Palm will fall into this catagory...
James
I'm sure Palm's Patent lawyers looked into EVERYTHING before they even started putting this phone together.. If they thought for a second that they would be in trouble for patent issues I'm sure they would have let the executive's now before they spent all that money on R/D plus material.. I know some company's are stupid when it comes to this but I doubt Palm will fall into this catagory...
James
Or they calculated the cost benefit analysis of a lawsuit versus the expected profits. You can tie things up in courts for years and by the time you settle you're still ahead. That's why you get scolding hot coffee from McDonald's. The business they'd lose from people complaining about cold coffee is greater than the insurance and lawsuits from burns. Or you do what microsoft did with windows
Just make it different enough.
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I agree with what your saying but not with your McDonald's analogy. The coffee was found to be too hot because they knew their coffee didn't taste all that great. Burning the tongue helped to remove the unpleasantness.Or they calculated the cost benefit analysis of a lawsuit versus the expected profits. You can tie things up in courts for years and by the time you settle you're still ahead. That's why you get scolding hot coffee from McDonald's. The business they'd lose from people complaining about cold coffee is greater than the insurance and lawsuits from burns. Or you do what microsoft did with windows
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2339344,00.asp
A spokeswoman at Palm said Thursday that the company has not been contacted by Apple's legal team, to her knowledge. "Palm has a long history of innovation, obviously reflected in our own products and our own robust apps portfolio," she said. "We have long been recognized for our fundamental patents in the mobile space. If we're faced with legal action, we're confident that we have the tools to defend ourselves."
When asked whether gestures like "pinching" were universal, or belonged to Apple, the Palm spokeswoman said that "our position is that multitouch has been around a long, long, long time before Apple introduced it."
Looks as if this was yesterday's news so if it's already been posted I apologize.
A spokeswoman at Palm said Thursday that the company has not been contacted by Apple's legal team, to her knowledge. "Palm has a long history of innovation, obviously reflected in our own products and our own robust apps portfolio," she said. "We have long been recognized for our fundamental patents in the mobile space. If we're faced with legal action, we're confident that we have the tools to defend ourselves."
When asked whether gestures like "pinching" were universal, or belonged to Apple, the Palm spokeswoman said that "our position is that multitouch has been around a long, long, long time before Apple introduced it."
Looks as if this was yesterday's news so if it's already been posted I apologize.
You can't run apps in the background, apps can only saves data to their own sandbox, voice turn-by-turn directions are forbidden by the SDK, no video recording, etc.. Do I have to go on? These alone are very large stumbling blocks.
You're right. Apple didn't exactly decide this, Verizon (the largest carrier in the US) decided this for them. Remember, Apple approached Verizon first. Verizon wouldn't play their game, so Apple brought their business elsewhere. But, Apple would have preferred the iPhone been on Verizon.
Absolutely correct. I don't think Palm has anything to worry about.
Don't you think that would be awful risky though? What if it doesn't sell at all? Low sales and a large drawn out lawsuit could potentially put them under (unless these investors have very deep pockets).