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Tim Cook: If Data Privacy Isn't Addressed, the Problem 'Gets So Large It May Be Impossible to Fix'

Protecting MY data huh? Well, best of luck swapping/removing an SSD in your Macbook Pro. Still no option to put in a memory card on the phones, though maybe I'll let that one pass. Perhaps that is the compromise on such a small device, but swapping battery, memory and SSD should be a given on a laptop.

The Macbook Pro design isn't protecting my data. It is protecting Apple's pocketbooks.
 
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jicon said:
Protecting MY data huh? Well, best of luck swapping/removing an SSD in your Macbook Pro. Still no option to put in a memory card on the phones, though maybe I'll let that one pass. Perhaps that is the compromise on such a small device, but swapping battery, memory and SSD should be a given on a laptop.

The Macbook Pro design isn't protecting my data. It is protecting Apple's pocketbooks.
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Most wouldn’t swap a battery in a laptop. Having it built in just means better battery life which I’m sure 99% of people would prefer.
 
Well my data was certainly protected when the fantastic thermal design of my 2015 rMB logic board decided to self-combust under the extreme processing strain of a Skype call, obliterating any prospects thereafter of accessing a single byte of the soldered 512GB SSD.

As for Timmy, who cares if he's gay (it's a far bigger deal in professional sports than business) but it would be of far more significance if he 'came out' as just another ruthless myopic charisma-free beancounter rather than the disingenuous benevolent image that's he's trying oh so very hard to cultivate.
 
it may be uncontrollable, but 'who's gonna back down first?; is the real question..

If it was untrue, don't you think Bloomberg would have eventually done something by now. ? We all do, at some point, but the fact you hold your head high and stand by what you believe in, says its gonna be interesting who backs down first.

Apple and Amazon may point to it being untrue, but Bloomberg doesn't think so otherwise they would got the facts straight by now. Even if it was false facts. You don't stand behind something always unless you can prove why your doing it.
 
Tech198 said:
it may be uncontrollable, but 'who's gonna back down first?; is the real question..

If it was untrue, don't you think Bloomberg would have eventually done something by now. ? We all do, at some point, but the fact you hold your head high and stand by what you believe in, says its gonna be interesting who backs down first.

Apple and Amazon may point to it being untrue, but Bloomberg doesn't think so otherwise they would got the facts straight by now. Even if it was false facts. You don't stand behind something always unless you can prove why your doing it.
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And so far Bloomberg has not revealed any proof or witnesses.

Until that happens, I'll continue to believe Apple.
 
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citysnaps said:
And so far Bloomberg has not revealed any proof or witnesses.

Until that happens, I'll continue to believe Apple.
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True,, well Bloomerg have 'un-named sources' but just about all journalists have secrets... do we call then liars as well ?
 
Tech198 said:
True,, well Bloomerg have 'un-named sources' but just about all journalists have secrets... do we call then liars as well ?
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You can if you want to.

As I said before...until they present proof and witnesses, I'll continue to believe Apple.
 
Apple position regarding privacy is one of the main reasons I use Apple devices -and stay away especially from Android. I really appreciate Tim defending privacy basically against the entire rest of the industry.
Naraxus said:
Good ol Timmy. Always talking tough on privacy when in front of a camera yet behind the scenes it's little more than lip-service to him.
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From what I've heard from Apple employees the security/confidentiality regarding personal data within Apple is very strict.
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Protecting MY data huh? Well, best of luck swapping/removing an SSD in your Macbook Pro. Still no option to put in a memory card on the phones, though maybe I'll let that one pass. Perhaps that is the compromise on such a small device, but swapping battery, memory and SSD should be a given on a laptop.
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What has removable storage to do with data security & privacy? This topic is about protecting your data from theft. Embedded storage usually helps with that... I mean, how many people encrypt their storage card in their Android phone? Takes like 5 to 10 seconds to steal that. Have nothing to hide? Think twice about the pictures on your phone in the wrong hands.
 
jicon said:
Protecting MY data huh? Well, best of luck swapping/removing an SSD in your Macbook Pro. Still no option to put in a memory card on the phones, though maybe I'll let that one pass. Perhaps that is the compromise on such a small device, but swapping battery, memory and SSD should be a given on a laptop.

The Macbook Pro design isn't protecting my data. It is protecting Apple's pocketbooks.
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Apple has many positive things about their products but they also have many flaws as well which are negative. Not being able to add a memory card is bad in my opinion,not being able to add or swap ram is bad,not being able to swap a battery is bad,not being able to swap and SSD is also bad. Their privacy policies when compared to Google are not so bad. Apple’s privacy policies are hands down better when compared to Google. User replaceable batteries on smartphones is actually an important feature if you ask me. Unfortunately these days it seems to be out of the question.
 
ipponrg said:
That's why it's important for people to become more educated in the online choices they make.

DuckDuckGo has pros/cons. To say they don't track you is being naive. They do track you, but they claim only for behavioral purposes via tracking pixels. We don't really know what they have in their data warehouses. It's easy to pull out IP addresses from a tracking pixel and correlate to a specific user. Not saying DDG is bad, but this makes people trust them without really thinking.

In early 2000s, I could go into Starbucks and sniff wifi packets for people's personal information. It's quite easy to pull out credit card numbers and passwords to websites. Nowadays with SSL and encryption, this makes it much more difficult and for good reasons too.

The internet is dangerous if you are not aware of what you are doing - this includes Apple too. I wouldn't blindly assume a corporation is looking out for the best of its users just because it says it does.
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DDG is a business, that means they have investors behind them which they rather not lose their money. Their whole business angle is privacy, they will not breach that in their own self best interest. Even if they do, its still the best option for searching the web out there since they don't require an account or track you around the web, compare that to Google that might even be tracing your mouse movements and link clicks. Even if they do collect-anonymous- searches it should not hurt you so long as its untraceable back to you.

Speaking of SSL, if I use a VPN which obviously can see my traffic, can they see what I am doing over an HTTPS website?
Like if I connect to https://macrumors.com can they know what I am doing over there or they only know the domain?
 
MacBH928 said:
DDG is a business, that means they have investors behind them which they rather not lose their money. Their whole business angle is privacy, they will not breach that in their own self best interest. Even if they do, its still the best option for searching the web out there since they don't require an account or track you around the web, compare that to Google that might even be tracing your mouse movements and link clicks. Even if they do collect-anonymous- searches it should not hurt you so long as its untraceable back to you.

Speaking of SSL, if I use a VPN which obviously can see my traffic, can they see what I am doing over an HTTPS website?
Like if I connect to https://macrumors.com can they know what I am doing over there or they only know the domain?
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Regarding the Google tracking, you can just hook up Wireshark/Charles to your machine and examine the packets getting sent out from your computer. There are tracking pixels (Google Analytics) all over the place when you go to Google sites which is what is really tracking you. I don't think they track your mouse movements.

The idea behind HTTPS is using a trusted root certificate authority. If you don't have a credible root certificate authority, then there is a greater risk that someone knows how to decrypt the SSL messages.

If you connect via VPN to a HTTPS website, they can still see what website you are hitting. With clever traffic analyzing, you might be able to see other pieces of information such as your GET requests. Ideally, any sensitive information should be sent via POST message bodies (and even then that's not 100% safe). This is why so many VPN customers look for VPNs that don't keep logs of traffic data.
 
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