Tim Cook Meets With India's PM Narendra Modi, Launches New App

[JosephAW]

It's nice that Apple allowed them to release the app and keep it iOS 7 compatible. Not everyone is able or willing to update to iOS 8, no wait you can't anymore, iOS 9 then. iOS 7 allows apple and authorities to unlock a phone because the key can be stored on the cloud.

 

[Technarchy]

It's all about outsourcing. Big corporations are Americans worst enemy. They not just happy with avoiding paying taxes. Tim Cook makes me nauseous with all the this PR stuff. Apple completely lost its focus.

Apple is focused...it's what they are focused on that is problematic.

iPhone 7 has absolutely no buzz or remotely interesting leaks and it's only 4 months off. That's not good by any stretch.

 

[Cwolk]

Wow. I'd think the PM would be the one wearing the suit.

 

[Mums]

Very strange. Can you imagine if Tim Cook (Apple) designed an app for Clinton or Trump? Seems like a very political decision with not a lot of consideration of the consequences of how the next government might feel about it.

It's not strange. India is abysmally corrupt and the app is a bribe. All these people saying India can beat China have never been to India. India is pure chaos. China is pure organization. Indians constantly compare themselves to China, saying that they are better than China. Meanwhile China doesn't even take notice of India.
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With China's rising inflation and labor costs, many companies are shifting manufacturing to India. It's happening across many industries right now.

Only in the wishful minds of Indians.

 

[Mike MA]

I wonder if Apple will exist by that time...

We will never know

 

[G-News]

I'd have been more thriled if he sat together with the heads of Intel and nVidia to discuss how they can take the mac from being an oversize desktop notebook to a serious professional machine again. If there's no new, up to date and kickass hardware for wwdc, the pro market is once again dead. And I'll be forced to get a PC after 22 years of Apple loyalty.

 

[0098386]

There. Fixed it for you.

What's an "American job"?

 

[grahamperrin]

What's an "American job"?

Non-stop writing e.g. Jessica Fletcher or occasional spinning e.g. Lynda Carter.

 

[ShubhamBhatia]

Will it matter to the US buyers if their iPhone is made in China or India?

1. Production in india = lower labour cost
2. Production in india = tax benefits
3. Production in india = no import duties for sale in india

4. 1+2+3 = Low cost iphone in india (lead to have better sale, do not forget 1.3 billion people and counting.. Half of billion have money to buy iphone but prefer samsung because price is same in us and india, but as you can see price of SE is $600 in india. You wont buy even 6s at this price)

5. Better sale = Splitted R&D, Design, Marketing expenses.

6. Splitted cost = Lower cost iphone.
Or
Iphone with same price with better performance/parts costing higher/More features.

This is long term decision with only long term benefits.

 

[Oblivious.Robot]

It's not strange. India is abysmally corrupt and the app is a bribe. All these people saying India can beat China have never been to India. India is pure chaos. China is pure organization. Indians constantly compare themselves to China, saying that they are better than China. Meanwhile China doesn't even take notice of India.
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Only in the wishful minds of Indians.

You sound like someone who lost their job to an Indian and is just overly bitter about it.

Take a deep breath and perhaps try to gain a better perspective?
There is always good and bad in everything and everyone.
What was a problem y'day need not be a problem today.
Change happens spontaneously after all.

 

[Mr Fusion]

What's an "American job"?

A job performed in America by a US citizen or permanent resident.

You sound like someone who lost their job to an Indian and is just overly bitter about it.

Take a deep breath and perhaps try to gain a better perspective?
There is always good and bad in everything and everyone.
What was a problem y'day need not be a problem today.
Change happens spontaneously after all.

I wish I shared your optimism. But the OP is correct, India is unbelievably corrupt. It's a place where you can't get a job or pass a written exam without bribing someone. It's a society whose favorite pasttime is sitting around and chatting with ones friends about how you were able to screw someone over into a good deal, regardless of if it's even ones own family. Apple most likely held off doing business directly here for years because they didn't want to pay their way in. But I guess the shareholders demand results...

 

[Sandstorm]

I'd have been more thriled if he sat together with the heads of Intel and nVidia to discuss how they can take the mac from being an oversize desktop notebook to a serious professional machine again. If there's no new, up to date and kickass hardware for wwdc, the pro market is once again dead. And I'll be forced to get a PC after 22 years of Apple loyalty.

WWDC is the last straw of hope, but honestly - I'm already plotting exit strategy. And I'm getting more and more excited about choice, price/performance, graphics&gaming, VR, awesome 34"+ monitors and even how good Windows 10 has become. I will also be gald to get ctrl+x back!

 

[grahamperrin]

ctrl-x

I find Control- key combinations far less ergonomic than Command- combinations.

 

[the-msa]

I find Control- key combinations far less ergonomic than Command- combinations.

Top kek m8

 

[Kaibelf]

Correct, but still sets a bad precedent. Is Tim also going to help launch a Xi Jinping app? One for Obama or whoever succeeds him?

Good grief. Next you'll complain when someone cuts a ribbon at a mall.

 

[vvswarup]

With China's rising inflation and labor costs, many companies are shifting manufacturing to India. It's happening across many industries right now.

I don't see how India is much of an improvement in labor costs. Unless I'm mistaken, India has some very strong worker protection laws for manufacturing companies. It's pretty hard to fire employees in India. Also, India is quite bureaucratic. Unlike China, India is not an export-driven economy. It has strong internal consumption. India doesn't even allow foreign retail companies to set up shop in India unless their goods are sourced from India. That's what's been holding Apple back from opening up retail stores in India.

Apple is in this to make money but I don't think Apple is courting India so hard over labor costs because I don't see how Apple would be saving any money in India. Apple wants to capitalize on India's growing middle class.

 

[AFEPPL]

You sound like someone who lost their job to an Indian and is just overly bitter about it.

Take a deep breath and perhaps try to gain a better perspective?
There is always good and bad in everything and everyone.
What was a problem y'day need not be a problem today.
Change happens spontaneously after all.

Sounds nothing like that to me. This move is clearly for political and back handed reasons as the quality that comes out of india is really really poor. I've no doubt at some point there will be a move from China, but its more likely to be to one of the African counties for cheaper wages and more reach to other markets.

 

[btrach144]

There. Fixed it for you.

This! Apple is one of the few companies that hasn't outsourced everything to India. Once you outsource to India, expect a huge drop in results and quality.

 

[Sandstorm]

I find Control- key combinations far less ergonomic than Command- combinations.

I'm used to both (and I'm kind of surprised I never confuse these). But I wouldn't mind cmd+x cut function in Mac Finder - it missing was one of the small annoyances when I switched to Mac.

 

[Col4bin]

It's not strange. India is abysmally corrupt and the app is a bribe. All these people saying India can beat China have never been to India. India is pure chaos. China is pure organization. Indians constantly compare themselves to China, saying that they are better than China. Meanwhile China doesn't even take notice of India.
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Only in the wishful minds of Indians.

You might want to check again as the wishes of India are now becoming a reality:

https://www.outsource2india.com/why_india/why_india.asp

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/10/news/economy/xiaomi-foxconn-india-factories-modi/
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I don't see how India is much of an improvement in labor costs. Unless I'm mistaken, India has some very strong worker protection laws for manufacturing companies. It's pretty hard to fire employees in India. Also, India is quite bureaucratic. Unlike China, India is not an export-driven economy. It has strong internal consumption. India doesn't even allow foreign retail companies to set up shop in India unless their goods are sourced from India. That's what's been holding Apple back from opening up retail stores in India.

Apple is in this to make money but I don't think Apple is courting India so hard over labor costs because I don't see how Apple would be saving any money in India. Apple wants to capitalize on India's growing middle class.

Here, read:

https://www.outsource2india.com/why_india/why_india.asp

 

[autrefois]

Good grief. Next you'll complain when someone cuts a ribbon at a mall.

If Tim Cook goes to Germany and cuts a ribbon at Angela Merkel Mall, or helps launch Park Geun-hye Shopping Center in South Korea, then yes I will.

 

[MH01]

You might want to check again as the wishes of India are now becoming a reality:

https://www.outsource2india.com/why_india/why_india.asp

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/10/news/economy/xiaomi-foxconn-india-factories-modi/
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Here, read:

https://www.outsource2india.com/why_india/why_india.asp

Okay, you are quoting outsource2india.com ?? As your source of information..... No.

 

[Mums]

You sound like someone who lost their job to an Indian and is just overly bitter about it.

Take a deep breath and perhaps try to gain a better perspective?
There is always good and bad in everything and everyone.
What was a problem y'day need not be a problem today.
Change happens spontaneously after all.

Lame philosophizing. Gee.. I wonder where that comes from. India?
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You might want to check again as the wishes of India are now becoming a reality:

https://www.outsource2india.com/why_india/why_india.asp

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/10/news/economy/xiaomi-foxconn-india-factories-modi/
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Here, read:

https://www.outsource2india.com/why_india/why_india.asp

Keep on dreaming. Until your country gives up its hyperidolatry, it will continue to be a black hole.

 

[Solomani]

Long-term, I'm much more optimistic about Apple growing its presence in India than growing its presence in China.

Long-term yes. Because India places stronger value in democracy and freedom of press.

Unlike in China, where the unchallenged Communist Party can slap fines, regulations, limitations, punishments and retributions to any American company they want to make an example of.
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All this India visit seems to be more of Apple sending message to China by implying: "If you give us too much headache, we will gradually move everything to Inda."

Yes, but that's not the only reason.

As the years go by, China manufacturing is becoming more expensive, since China is maturing as an industrial nation. With every year, the Chinese labor force will demand "Pay us more!!!" Pay us more!! Give us better benefits! Corporations should stop polluting our environment! Provide us with better quality breathable air! We demand all of this! etc

And eventually, China will be almost as expensive as American manufacturing and American labor.

 

[Col4bin]

Okay, you are quoting outsource2india.com ?? As your source of information..... No.

Regardless, the article did a nice job of top-lining the perceived benefits, regardless of platform or opinion. While no one is saying that India is ready to take on the scale, capability and efficiency of China manufacturing and distribution, India is gearing up and will make a substantial push in the very near future.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/foxconn-seeks-manufacturing-sites-in-india-1438713517

http://www.forbes.com/sites/edfuller/2015/09/10/india-asias-next-economic-dynamo/#6036a69a3ae6

http://www.supplychainbrain.com/con...a-and-india-a-north-american-perspectivenbsp/
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Lame philosophizing. Gee.. I wonder where that comes from. India?
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Keep on dreaming. Until your country gives up its hyperidolatry, it will continue to be a black hole.

Hyperidolatry--as in the worship of objects? Or as in capitalism and consumerism in general, what?