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give the guy some time...did you want it ALL fixed in one fiscal year? Come on, be realistic

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I had absolutely NO problems with the iOS. Again, I installed throughout iTunes...not one problem. I love its functionality.

FIXED?

It's a brand new Operating System. iOS 8 shouldn't need to be 'fixed'. You fix something if something else breaks it. iOS 8 was broken since release - it's still a s*it OS.
 
He has stepped into SJ's shoes, with all the hoopla that no one can replace Steve. SJ wouldn't have given us the steady and growing stream of Android features, bigger screens. While you cannot say enough about SJ, he was holding Apple back with the "we know what you want" routine, and his ideas being out of date with the rest of us. This bigger screen rant has been going on for years.

TC has stepped up, recovered the stock price, innovated (Im thinking Handoff and Continuity, Apple Pay) Take Apple Pay, thats just started but the numbers are taking off. That may well be the payment of choice for a growing number, that will help sales.

For a large company that is always in the critical spotlight, yes he gets my vote.

I genuinely hope you are right.

That was the only thing I genuinely despised about Steve Jobs.
The I know better than you, and I will decide what you should use, and how you should use it, side of things.
Hey we are not children, and can decide what we want thank you Apple.

I hope Tim has the power to expand the range and offer more and more things that Steve would never have allowed.

I really really hope that.

Apple could of wiped out the PC market years and year ago if it was not for Steve Jobs holding it back.
 
I genuinely hope you are right.

That was the only thing I genuinely despised about Steve Jobs.
The I know better than you, and I will decide what you should use, and how you should use it, side of things.
Hey we are not children, and can decide what we want thank you Apple.

I hope Tim has the power to expand the range and offer more and more things that Steve would never have allowed.

I really really hope that.

Apple could of wiped out the PC market years and year ago if it was not for Steve Jobs holding it back.

Yep. SJ invented the modern smartphone, but his ways prevented it evolving as the Android devices and now WP devices have. So while some here disagree, there has been Android feature catchup, screen size catchup, simplistically catchup to 2014. Continuity, Handoff, Apple Pay, are innovative. I see TC acting in real time re features, and remember that these iPhone 6's weren't dreamed up and designed 6 months ago, I reckon they were on drawing boards when the 4" iPhone came out. The 4" iPhone 5 was a quick way to appease. The iPhone 7 will IMO have smaller top and bottom bezels. Makes this highly popular model more so, as smaller. Expect to see more iOS/OSX integration. More freeing up of iOS limitations
 
I'm glad I haven't upgraded. In fact, I still somewhat regret upgrading to Mavericks. So many little quirks and annoyance here and there... so unlike my first OS X Jaguar. At that time, they boast about how OS X never crash. I also dislike many of the design changes.

I agree about everything you state.

Mountain Lion is the end of the road for me and Apple as far as I'm concerned, given you cannot install an older OS version on newer hardware. My migration to Google/Windows products is almost complete, but OS X is hard to leave and Linux just isn't ready for primetime still (too much work to get it to work for my taste).

I'll keep holding on to my 2011 MBP 17 as long as possible; I still don't see the need to "upgrade" and probably never will.

Now, as for Tim being CEO of the Year, I see it. It's all about the money folks, so if Apple is making money then he deserves it. Nevermind the opinions that hardware/software are inferior; the products are still SELLING. HARD.

The fact that I personally disagree with almost EVERYTHING Apple has done, changed, and stood up for publicly from the time Steve Jobs has been gone is irrelevant here.
 
I genuinely hope you are right.

That was the only thing I genuinely despised about Steve Jobs.
The I know better than you, and I will decide what you should use, and how you should use it, side of things.
Hey we are not children, and can decide what we want thank you Apple.

I hope Tim has the power to expand the range and offer more and more things that Steve would never have allowed.

I really really hope that.

Apple could of wiped out the PC market years and year ago if it was not for Steve Jobs holding it back.

No. This would've NEVER happened, nor will it in the future. The PC market is driven by choice. Apple's market is driven by a lack thereof.

If Microsoft delivers with Windows X, that choice palette will be more compelling than ever. Still, that's a big "if".

Steve had vision; he was (primarily) product-oriented. Tim is just a mere CEO; he is company/profit-oriented. His job is to continue to "steer the ship" Steve built, not build his own and sail it.
 
I genuinely hope you are right.

That was the only thing I genuinely despised about Steve Jobs.
The I know better than you, and I will decide what you should use, and how you should use it, side of things.
Hey we are not children, and can decide what we want thank you Apple.

I hope Tim has the power to expand the range and offer more and more things that Steve would never have allowed.

I really really hope that.

Apple could of wiped out the PC market years and year ago if it was not for Steve Jobs holding it back.

Did you know there is this thing called choice? If you believe Apple it is limiting your choices then buy something else. Buy a Windows or Linux machine where you can upgrade components and install whatever you want to your hearts content.
 
The fact that I personally disagree with almost EVERYTHING Apple has done, changed, and stood up for publicly from the time Steve Jobs has been gone is irrelevant here.

I like SJ for what he did, but if he was still here we would be on insanely great 4" phones as he knows what I want, not me. We would have a huge gap for Android features that we wont have. Locked down. These days the fashionable "locked down" comment is long gone. Id probably be looking at Android, dump the widgets and get an iOS skin and move on
 
Did you know there is this thing called choice? If you believe Apple it is limiting your choices then buy something else. Buy a Windows or Linux machine where you can upgrade components and install whatever you want to your hearts content.

Indeed and I do, and have.

That is not to say, I wish I could have the same level of choice I do now under Windows, but from Apple.

Apple could tomorrow, build an Upgradable Affordable Desktop Mac

Which would take PCI cards, and, at least allow Mac users to plug in and swap around SSD's, Graphics cards, Memory, etc.

It would probably sell like crazy.

It would take some sales away from the iMac's, and you know why?
Because some people simply don't want iMac's, but it's all Apple will offer them.

I know many have asked for what I am asking for.

And we all know, Apple are not going to give Apple fans the product many many of them want.

It's either an iMac (Giant laptop on a stand)
Or Mac Pro, which is only really of any use for video editing, and not upgradable enough at the right price point.

It's a shame, then Users want something, the Company knows users want something and would buy something, and yet, they deliberately refuse to make/offer it :(
 
It's a shame, then Users want something, the Company knows users want something and would buy something, and yet, they deliberately refuse to make/offer it :(

I am fairly certain that between iMac, Mac Mini, MacPro and MacBooks - Apple has the needs of 99.5% of its customers well covered.

The remaining 0.5% are people who come here to whine about lack of xMac, upgradeable desktops, PCI cards, etc etc. There is zero profit in commodity desktop hardware - Apple is well aware of that. And so Apple is wise to let those 0.5% of people buy computers from the likes of Dell, Lenovo.. or just build their own.

If you truly want MacOS desktop along with customization and upgradeability - it's very easy to build a Hackintosh these days. Would certainly be a lot more productive use of time than complaining here about things that won't be changing.
 
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I am fairly certain that between iMac, Mac Mini, MacPro and MacBooks - Apple has the needs of 99.5% of its customers well covered.

The remaining 0.5% are people who come here to whine about lack of xMac, upgradeable desktops, PCI cards, etc etc. There is zero profit in commodity desktop hardware - Apple is well aware of that. And so Apple is wise to let those 0.5% of people buy computers from the likes of Dell, Lenovo.. or just build their own.

If you truly want MacOS desktop along with customization and upgradeability - it's very use to build a Hackintosh these days. Would certainly be a lot more productive use of time than complaining here about things that won't be changing.

Yes. You cannot have the variety and flexibility as with PC's without the issues with PCs. Driver issues, reliance on a number of card suppliers. Who will provide the drivers? Its like Apple making a high number of phone models. Its a race to the bottom. To me, the phone or laptop or desktop is just one part of the puzzle. The superior OS, integration binds it all together. And the limited range of hardware is what makes it all just work. Its limited, but complete for most of us.
 
TC has stepped up, recovered the stock price, innovated (Im thinking Handoff and Continuity, Apple Pay) Take Apple Pay, thats just started but the numbers are taking off. That may well be the payment of choice for a growing number, that will help sales.

For a large company that is always in the critical spotlight, yes he gets my vote.

Agree, TC is really making strong strides for :apple:

After SJ, they are might large foot-prints to follow.
 
Agree, TC is really making strong strides for :apple:

After SJ, they are might large foot-prints to follow.

Personality wise for sure, but SJ did hold us back with age old android features not appearing, with small screens. TC just has to follow what the people want, which SJ never did, he decided. Great in 2007, but not now
 
I am fairly certain that between iMac, Mac Mini, MacPro and MacBooks - Apple has the needs of 99.5% of its customers well covered.

The remaining 0.5% are people who come here to whine about lack of xMac, upgradeable desktops, PCI cards, etc etc. There is zero profit in commodity desktop hardware - Apple is well aware of that. And so Apple is wise to let those 0.5% of people buy computers from the likes of Dell, Lenovo.. or just build their own.

If you truly want MacOS desktop along with customization and upgradeability - it's very easy to build a Hackintosh these days. Would certainly be a lot more productive use of time than complaining here about things that won't be changing.

Nice of you to pull that .5% number out of your hat.
I think it's much larger than that and the Mini's previous small amount of upgradability was enough for many of those folks.
However, it is never 'wise' to give up thousands of sales to the competition, whether or not some snot nosed Apple diehard deems it to be so.
 
Again this cliché. Don't you get tired of repeating it?
People peacefully exchanging views here.

It's not really a cliche it's fact. There is a benefit from a choice of hundreds of hardware combos, and a cost. There is a benefit from a more limiting hardware choice. If you need the former, choose. I'd quite like the former, but I see the cost of stability.

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Nice of you to pull that .5% number out of your hat.
I think it's much larger than that and the Mini's previous small amount of upgradability was enough for many of those folks.
However, it is never 'wise' to give up thousands of sales to the competition, whether or not some snot nosed Apple diehard deems it to be so.

Not cool mate. He disagrees and you resort to name calling? Not cool. The mini issue was not the upgrade ability to whatever PCI card, video card etc that you want, it was the lack of an update, much like the new iPad mini.

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Nice of you to pull that .5% number out of your hat.
I think it's much larger than that and the Mini's previous small amount of upgradability was enough for many of those folks.
However, it is never 'wise' to give up thousands of sales to the competition, whether or not some snot nosed Apple diehard deems it to be so.

And you tick him off for pulling the figure out of a hat, yet you " think" it's larger than that? Pot calling the kettle black as I see it
 
This sentence is voiced too much when an Apple user dares expressing his view on Apple or a product's shortcomings. Usually it is the final argument.

Rolling eyes. If its too hard emotionally for you to look at the pros and cons of two platforms your best not to participate in forums. There are pros and cons for Apple shortcoming of the limited hardware range they use, also pros and cons of using 3 gazillion types of hardware. If you had bothered to read my post you would have noticed that the two platforms have shortcomings, and they also have benefits for the users.

Bye
 
Rolling eyes. If its too hard emotionally for you to look at the pros and cons of two platforms your best not to participate in forums...Bye

Again a cliché.
Many of the Forum members can see the pros and cons. The rest sees only the pros and if someone talks about the cons he/she is told "to go buy a Windows, Android, Linux machine" or "not to participate in forums".

Bye.
 
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Again a cliché.
Many of the Forum members can see the pros and cons. The rest sees only the pros and if someone talks about the cons he/she is told "to go by a Windows, Android, Linux machine" or "not to participate in forums".

Bye.

I suggest you look in the mirror buddy, not everyone on this forum is an Android troller or an Apple fanboy. Most of us filter that cr@p out, some find a need to dribble on.
 
It's not really a cliche it's fact. There is a benefit from a choice of hundreds of hardware combos, and a cost. There is a benefit from a more limiting hardware choice. If you need the former, choose. I'd quite like the former, but I see the cost of stability.

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Not cool mate. He disagrees and you resort to name calling? Not cool. The mini issue was not the upgrade ability to whatever PCI card, video card etc that you want, it was the lack of an update, much like the new iPad mini.

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And you tick him off for pulling the figure out of a hat, yet you " think" it's larger than that? Pot calling the kettle black as I see it

He got exactly what was coming to him. All fanboys calls people whiners even if they have a legitimate complaint about Apple. It gets tiring.
I have been an Apple user for over a decade but they have gone out of their way to be obnoxious when it comes to the Mini.
Apple should be glad they have a popular product that is easy to make and they should be cultivating that relationship not severing it just because they can make a few more bucks forcing customers to buy more RAM than they may need now because it's soldered on.
Ludicrous
 
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Nice of you to pull that .5% number out of your hat. I think it's much larger than that and the Mini's previous small amount of upgradability was enough for many of those folks.

Who cares what you "think". The fact of the matter is - the number is small enough for Apple not to care about it, and they're happy to cede it to the competition.

And Apple is not in the business to make the exact computer that YOU want (or you think you want). If they were listening to people like you - they'd still be making laptops with optical drives and removable batteries. Luckily for most of us - Apple's technology decisions aren't based on the wishes of a few macforums geeks who want to replace their video cards or swap memory sticks. These technology decisions ultimately benefit the vast majority of Apple's customers, and they drive technology forward.

However, it is never 'wise' to give up thousands of sales to the competition, whether or not some snot nosed Apple diehard deems it to be so.

LOL..name calling is certainly making your point so much stronger.. Like I said before, I am just happy Apple doesn't listen to forums whiners and nay sayers. If they did - Apple would be just another Dell or HP - joining the race to the bottom and making compromised commodity computers at zero margins. Thankfully - you don't get to decide.
 
Not impressed. Poor iOS 8 release, poor iOS bug fix update, poor Yosemite release, too much time spent being political. Yeah CEO of the year alright.
 
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