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"Best value"? That isn't a metric that even registers with Apple's demographic.

As a tactical beancounter/supply chain functionary, Tim-Nice-But-Dim* is unparalleled in those circles.

But let's be honest, as a strategic CEO whose primary role was to man the helm of an innovative, product-focused, industry-defining behemoth, he continues to fail abjectly, and at times, embarrassingly.

He's getting a free pass right now from the board and major shareholders, as nobody's (yet) having sleepless nights, but I'd be surprised if there's not some malcontented whispers.












* A 90s British comedy character of one Harry Enfield, more recently adopted to describe a certain type of middle-class, middle-child corporate servant whose opportunistic/nepotistic position is only reinforced by their Peter Principle-defining ineptitude. Rings a bell doesn't it....
 
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As much as it's something I don't agree with, arugably that would be a desirable trait for a CEO. Minimum overheads / maximum profits.. extracting as much money out of the customer as possible would be the objective for many companies unfortunately.
Anyone remember the "law of diminishing returns"? My "analysis" of what is happening is basically that they are cashing out their prior assets. Any fool can do that. So my point is that this appears to be a short-termist, quick buck approach that will destroy the marketplace that Mr. Jobs so painstakingly built for them - but note that this outcome will take long enough that Mr. Cook et al will have left the company to enjoy their gains on their billion-dollar yachts and really won't give a damn.
 
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I would argue that it is you who aren't the typical user. Most people should do just fine with 16 gb of ram and that's who Apple is targeting. No point saddling them with more power-hungry ram, especially since most won't ever go with the 32gb option.

Don't remember saying I was, neither did I imply I was everyone. However you implied that you were.
 
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I'll save y'all some time:

"He's got to go!"
"Quality control has nosedived under Tim!"
"Those MacBook prices are ridiculous! Cook's Apple is lazy & greedy!"
"We don't want more Watch bands, Tim!"
"An emoji bar? Really Tim???"
"Tim! Where are refreshed Mac Pros / iMacs??"
You forgot Steve Jobs would have never allowed this and/or Steve Jobs would be rolling in his grave.
 
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Because nobody here is a CEO of a successful company.
Speak for yourself, my company is no where near the size of Apple but it is highly successful in terms of profit, customer satisfaction and employee satisfaction :)

Cook inherited a great company but in my opinion he has pretty much been coasting for the past 5 years. What breakthrough innovations has Apple brought to the market under his leadership?
1) doing away with a headphone jack
2) an iPhone with a bigger screen (to keep up with the competition)
3) new Apple Watch bands

Yes, Apple has done a few decent things over the past few years. I really do like the true tone flash and the iPad Pro display that adapts to the color of the ambient light. I also love the 9.7" iPad Pro keyboard. But all in all, I have not been impressed with the level of innovation I have seen at Apple under Cook's leadership.

The one thing I truly do admire Cook for was the way he stood up for user privacy & data security when he was being pressured by the FBI to create a backdoor for "just this one phone, just this one time". It was a controversial position that he took but I believe it was the right one and I honestly admire his courage in not backing down to the pressure.
 
That's because most members are more interested in the products than the profits.

Yes a hundred times. Tim Cook is definitely not one of the best customer-orientated CEOs, but that probably wouldn't work for the shareholders, at least not in the short term. Of course, shareholders may begin to feel the wrath of customers turning away in the long-term if Tim continues to feel like he can do no wrong.
 
Pathetic measure of "value". Exactly how are Bloomberg explicitly attributing value creation to the actions of Cook? He's been running the company for profit not longevity - let's see what the next five years bring when the products continue to age, innovation continues to be absent and the competition keeps forging ahead. As a long term investor I want long term growth and dividend returns.
 
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I'll save y'all some time:

"He's got to go!"
"Quality control has nosedived under Tim!"
"Those MacBook prices are ridiculous! Cook's Apple is lazy & greedy!"
"We don't want more Watch bands, Tim!"
"An emoji bar? Really Tim???"
"Tim! Where are refreshed Mac Pros / iMacs??"


You can just post this in every topic, you'd be spot on. This place is a wreck, too many don't have a clue and just want toys, they think Apple owe them something and forget that actually Apple owes them nothing. Apple owes the people who own shares something - profits. Everyone else, either buy a product you like or buy Apple. You don't seem to like Apple, so go buy something else.
 
I wonder what Apple's PR department say/do to get this made and published? Tim Cook is overdone. He needs to go.
 
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He's good at making money, but not good at managing the product lines. That's all.
Seems to me that ultimately the two are tied together?
I wonder how much of what he's done actually brought profits down?
Much of it had to be in the pipeline when Steve was around?
If Cook had just added updates to the 2012 macs and left the form factor the same
and brought the prices down..would people be complaining as much?
How many people bought IPhones because they have a Mac?
How many people are going to update their Macs now?
I'm glad the Mac OS is still pretty good..I'll keep installing on my OLD macs
until Mr. Cook comes around!
No, not ready to go to the dark side yet!
 
This is "Best Value" not "Best" overall. It's like a $6.99 steak at Golden Coral. Sure it's a "value" as far as steak goes but it's not the best quality and later on in the evening it may come back to haunt you.

These kind of rankings are nothing more than click-bait because they are so one dimensional they fail as useful information.
Bloomberg does not need click-bait stories. And the premise seems to be compensation is in-line with company performance as opposed to being overpaid to not do a good job. Happy investors mean happy customers.
 
Bloomberg does not need click-bait stories. And the premise seems to be compensation is in-line with company performance as opposed to being overpaid to not do a good job. Happy investors mean happy customers.

Ever site craves clicks. That is what pays the bills. And read what I wrote a bit closer. I think you missed my point because you were too busy trying to make excuses for TC.
 
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Ever site craves clicks. That is what pays the bills. And read what I wrote a bit closer. I think you missed my point because you were too busy trying to make excuses for TC.
The point was click bait, Bloomberg with their vast business does not need it (even if done don't like the editing). And yes I got the TC bashing, but where he is speaks for itself even if some don't like the job he's doing.
 
The point was click bait, Bloomberg with their vast business does not need it. And yes I got the TC bashing, but where he is speaks for itself even if some don't like the job he's doing.

No that was not THE point. Read between the lines. But all lists like this are click-bait. They are not useful information or news.
 
This should be a fun thread. I'd love to see him booted but who would replace him that wasn't more of the same?

Maybe Scott Forstall?

Craig Federighi?

Someone NOT an Operations guy.
[doublepost=1481739395][/doublepost]I think that Apple's product lineup is the direct result of Tim being an Ops guy.

I wonder how much it costs to produce the current Apple hardware vs. previous iterations.

All that (over) simplification and consolidation must be driving profits ever skyward.

In this regard, he's brilliant. But the bubble WILL burst.

Can't get away with this one-product (iPhone) mentality in this day and age.

Without product diversification (making REAL trucks again) and putting their (design) eggs into turning everything into an iPhone or iPhone-support device will cost them, especially loyalty from the long-termers.

And dropping prices couldn't hurt, but they can always do that when the tit stops giving milk.

Vision, in this he is AWFUL.

Steve should've left Forstall in charge instead.

A "softer" Apple is rotten.
 
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