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farewelwilliams, while I'm sure you're a reasonable and likeable person in real life, I must point out that your replies are quite nonsensical.
You mean data and predictions made by public health experts. Are you really willing to argue that "experts aren't 100% certain how deadly coronavirus is, therefore it must not be deadlier than the seasonal flu"? That's nonsensical. The conclusion does not follow.
Two major errors here.
1) You employed the logical fallacy known as a straw man argument. By attacking my "50% lower" assumption, you are trying to distract from my actual argument, which used evidence from multiple experts and multiple sources to support the claim that coronavirus is potentially much deadlier than influenza. You have not refuted that argument and have yet to provide any evidence to the contrary. The 1% mortality rate I provided is based on evidence from public health experts, and you and I both know that I used an error factor to illustrate that even if the low-end 1% estimate is massively overinflated, it's still potentially much deadlier than influenza.
2) You're trying to muddy the waters by making this a "your word against mine" discussion. It's not. I cited evidence from multiple public health experts and several sources. You have yet to provide any evidence to support your position.
Here you're trying to use the word "massive" to distract from the actual numbers. Per sources cited in previous posts, in a worst case scenario, coronavirus could kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, vs. tens of thousands for influenza. Both sets of numbers could be described as "massive", sure. But one is much larger than the other, and you know it.
Influenza deaths are certainly tragic, and I feel deeply for those who have lost loved ones to the disease. But are you truly concerned that people don't talk about the flu death toll enough? Are you a flu awareness activist? If so, bravo to you - that's a noble pursuit. But a quick Google trends search shows that search activity around "flu deaths" had a major spike in 2018, comparable to current levels [1]. So it would seem your claim that "No one talks about that" is not supported by evidence.
It seems quite evident you do not understand the nature of my question - which is surprising, given how simple it was. Let's try again. I claimed that the coronavirus is potentially much deadlier than influenza, citing multiple sources as evidence. I then asked you to please provide evidence to the contrary - that influenza is as deadly or deadlier than coronavirus, or whatever your position is that compelled you to sarcastically ask “Can we get outraged during flu season too?”. You have yet to provide any evidence to the contrary. You downplaying one piece of evidence I provided is not the same as you providing evidence to support your own position.
How, specifically, does discussing a public health crisis do "more harm than good"?
It's unfortunate that when presented with facts and evidence, you choose to simply end the discussion. By contrast, I welcome more discussion and the presentation of evidence if you are so inclined.
If you do end up reading this, please consider how irresponsible your original post was, and promptly delete it.
[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&gprop=news&q=flu deaths
You mean data and predictions made by public health experts. Are you really willing to argue that "experts aren't 100% certain how deadly coronavirus is, therefore it must not be deadlier than the seasonal flu"? That's nonsensical. The conclusion does not follow.
I mean, I can easily say, "Assume the mortality rate is extremely overinflated and the actual mortality rate is 80% lower" (sure that's more deadly but definitely not worthy of global-recession-deadly). It's "possible". Why is your assumption anymore accurate than mine? You're simply guessing.
Two major errors here.
1) You employed the logical fallacy known as a straw man argument. By attacking my "50% lower" assumption, you are trying to distract from my actual argument, which used evidence from multiple experts and multiple sources to support the claim that coronavirus is potentially much deadlier than influenza. You have not refuted that argument and have yet to provide any evidence to the contrary. The 1% mortality rate I provided is based on evidence from public health experts, and you and I both know that I used an error factor to illustrate that even if the low-end 1% estimate is massively overinflated, it's still potentially much deadlier than influenza.
2) You're trying to muddy the waters by making this a "your word against mine" discussion. It's not. I cited evidence from multiple public health experts and several sources. You have yet to provide any evidence to support your position.
Here you're trying to use the word "massive" to distract from the actual numbers. Per sources cited in previous posts, in a worst case scenario, coronavirus could kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, vs. tens of thousands for influenza. Both sets of numbers could be described as "massive", sure. But one is much larger than the other, and you know it.
Influenza deaths are certainly tragic, and I feel deeply for those who have lost loved ones to the disease. But are you truly concerned that people don't talk about the flu death toll enough? Are you a flu awareness activist? If so, bravo to you - that's a noble pursuit. But a quick Google trends search shows that search activity around "flu deaths" had a major spike in 2018, comparable to current levels [1]. So it would seem your claim that "No one talks about that" is not supported by evidence.
It seems quite evident you do not understand the nature of my question - which is surprising, given how simple it was. Let's try again. I claimed that the coronavirus is potentially much deadlier than influenza, citing multiple sources as evidence. I then asked you to please provide evidence to the contrary - that influenza is as deadly or deadlier than coronavirus, or whatever your position is that compelled you to sarcastically ask “Can we get outraged during flu season too?”. You have yet to provide any evidence to the contrary. You downplaying one piece of evidence I provided is not the same as you providing evidence to support your own position.
How, specifically, does discussing a public health crisis do "more harm than good"?
It's unfortunate that when presented with facts and evidence, you choose to simply end the discussion. By contrast, I welcome more discussion and the presentation of evidence if you are so inclined.
If you do end up reading this, please consider how irresponsible your original post was, and promptly delete it.
[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&gprop=news&q=flu deaths
Too bad this doesn't apply to eh retail staff... who most likely will get the virus and can't afford to fight it due to low hourly wages..
How would that work? Retail positions require you to be there to perform the work. The corporate employees not going to the office are still working.
I think the point was that they are doing something by offering a solution to the people least at risk.
Ahh that makes sense. I have a question. Is Apple’s HQ in NYC on Fifth Avenue? And is it just software/hardware engineers?
That would make sense.
I'm aware. I maintain such a VPN for ~40 users or so. Works great, but just because a user is using a VPN, that doesn't mean that they won't (or haven't already) compromised their computer by downloading something shady from BitTorrent, either on the computer they're using, or on another computer on the network, which could put even a mostly-secure computer at risk. I've seen some things, let's just say that. You definitely have to be very careful with whom you give access to sensitive internal resources to.
Personally, I normally only give VPN access to domain computers, which does negate most of the risk. Not always an option, though.
Work from home it’s not a big deal if you have a strong connection with your manager and teammates. We use Skype for everyday meetings, Trello for managing our workflow and WorkTime for monitoring attendance and productivity.
Hey, Florence! My company also thinks we need to install Employee monitoring software. Since you're already using one, could you share a review? Also, I tried to check WorkTime (www.worktime.com-hope it's the right one) but I didn't find much information on compatibility. Will this work on both Windows and Mac?