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Yes there is. Try transferring your digitally purchased software product some time. Odds are you can't. Heck there are limitations (via functionality) on what software that is still on physical format and isn't an object finding game or yet another candy crush clone.
This is the reason that you can buy, sell, and trade used games for consoles at GameStop, BestBuy, etc. You cannot do the same with PC games and software. Different license and different laws. Even places like Half-Price Books that resell books and media only sell sealed PC Software - not used. There are limitations.
 
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For a really good analysis of what is going on from an actual contract lawyer, have a look at this playlist where all the US anti-trust and corporate laws are discussed surrounding the Epic vs Apple case.

I learned, based on my own legal fights, that lawyers rarely adds value to a discussion, they just represent the side who pays them, and they try to convince the judge, they try to convince them even with BS if needed (e.g. Rudy Giuliani). Listening to a lawyer does not automatically shows the right view of something. In every legal fight, there are right and wrong lawyers.
 
I learned, based on my own legal fights, that lawyers rarely adds value to a discussion, they just represent the side who pays them, and they try to convince the judge, they try to convince them even with BS if needed (e.g. Rudy Giuliani). Listening to a lawyer does not automatically shows the right view of something. In every legal fight, there are right and wrong lawyers.

Have you even looked at any of the videos? He presents both sides of the story, he’s not arguing for either, just providing an analysis of their arguments and the underpinning law. All of your questions are answered.

It is orders of magnitude better than listening to the numerous forum members here who are suddenly PhD‘s in international law.
 
Have you even looked at any of the videos? He presents both sides of the story, he’s not arguing for either, just providing an analysis of their arguments and the underpinning law. All of your questions are answered.

It is orders of magnitude better than listening to the numerous forum members here who are suddenly PhD‘s in international law.
Nah, I didn't, but will try tomorrow... ✌️
 
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I would have thought a lot of this information would be available in the App Store Rules when a dev signs up, which Epic agreed to, then wanted to change the rules of the game part way through.
 
But you can’t buy it like that from toyota and they’re under no obligation to help you install the Honda engine. Just like you can’t demand a Whopper in Macdonalds or a Big Mac in Burger King. This isn’t an all you can eat buffet where you can have it your way.

This is the problem with the current generation….they want everything right now, have never been told “no” and everybody gets an award.
I agree the younger generation is unique. They don’t want to work for what they want. Expect it handed to them

this is all just talk. If you want to install a Honda motor in your Toyota you can. Not asking for Toyota support. That is basically impossible on an iPhone. That’s all I’m saying
 
I just did an (ahem) "quick" search through seven pages of comments to verify an assumption, and mind you, this isn't the first time I've checked for this with the same result. I find it vaguely interesting that neither the article nor a single person in this thread has mentioned the fact that the MacOS version of Fortnite is likewise blocked by this situation. I have to say, I'm kind'a starting to feel like I'm the only person who ever tried playing Fortnite under MacOS.
 
I agree the younger generation is unique. They don’t want to work for what they want. Expect it handed to them

this is all just talk. If you want to install a Honda motor in your Toyota you can. Not asking for Toyota support. That is basically impossible on an iPhone. That’s all I’m saying
Impossible is not the same as difficult. There are many hurdles to overcome if you want to install another o/s on your iphone and Apple is not obligated to help you figure it out.
 
The judge seems to be on the right track. Apple, for it's own good, needs to loose this battle.
As the last video in the information that a real lawyer provided winning this could be the worst thing possible. Epic is too stupid to realize that its own arguments could be used to dismantle every exclusive deal it has as that is a monopoly even if for a short time.
 
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I just did an (ahem) "quick" search through seven pages of comments to verify an assumption, and mind you, this isn't the first time I've checked for this with the same result. I find it vaguely interesting that neither the article nor a single person in this thread has mentioned the fact that the MacOS version of Fortnite is likewise blocked by this situation. I have to say, I'm kind'a starting to feel like I'm the only person who ever tried playing Fortnite under MacOS.
As someone over the age of thirteen, I have not tried to play Fortnite on ANY platform. That won't change no matter the result of this lawsuit by Epic.
 
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Doubtful. Not sure why Cook is held with some reverence by the people on here. 🤔
This is just a guess... I'd say that by merit of his position as Steve Jobs' handpicked successor, he has inherited a (possibly slightly reduced) version of Jobs' trademark Reality Distortion Field. ;)

But speaking seriously... Cook is actually an exceptionally talented manager in his own right, and he did quite a few amazing things at Apple related to pipeline streamlining and vertical integration, even well before Jobs formally handed over the reigns to the top spot. Whether or not Cook is likewise as talented at handling himself in courtroom proceedings probably remains to be seen, as that is almost assuredly an entirely different skillset.
 
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You paid for you phone in full price. It is not a rent-phone. Apple has no right to tell you what you can use an what you cannot
No. You bought hardware from Apple and the right to licence the software they create to run on said hardware.
You own the hardware. You do not own the software, you only license it from Apple.
They get to choose what is available to run on their software.
You get to pick from that list and enjoy free updates for several years.
You knew that when you bought an iPhone and into the Apple eco-system.
They have every right to their software.
 
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As someone over the age of thirteen, I have not tried to play Fortnite on ANY platform. That won't change no matter the result of this lawsuit by Epic.
As someone well over the age of thirteen, and with kids that age (and older)... I still very much enjoy playing video games, both with my kids and occasionally even by myself. So what is your point?

More to the point: if you have no interest in ever playing Fortnite, why are you bothering to get involved in this discussion?
 
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The Apple App store creates a FAIR marketplace that keep small developers like me in business and large developers like Epic on an even playing field. Everybody must abide the the Terms of Service - this is the only thing that keeps it far to all.
So you fear the competition, e.g if somebody comes up with something equally or better than your software/game has to offer, for less with better marketing and better community. Sorry, but that’s healthy competition, just how it should be. At a long run your attitude will lead to failure, betting on one horse isn’t good either. I bought all the Affinity Mac Apps extra from outside the App Store, directly from their website, easygoing. Affinity got 100% of what I paid, why give 30% to Apple for doing nothing. That’s how iOS also should work, and M1 proves it works.
 
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As someone well over the age of thirteen, and with kids that age (and older)... I still very much enjoy playing video games, both with my kids and occasionally even by myself. So what is your point?

More to the point: if you have no interest in ever playing Fortnite, why are you bothering to get involved in this discussion?
I play plenty of games, just not Fortnite which seems to have an absurdly large appeal to 13 year old boys who love mimicking the dances. Sort of a TikTok train-up I guess.

As far as why be involved in the discussion? I hope you aren't serious, because this case has much farther reaches than some video game. You have one multi-million dollar company asking the courts to invalidate a contract on the grounds of unfair business practices by another multi-billion dollar company. And the desired outcome of the plaintiff would quite literally open Pandora's (sand)Box to allow ANYONE to create a competing App Store to sell ANYTHING on iOS.

This would be terrible for those of us who prefer having a one-stop shop for all of our iPhone applications. Frankly, I hate the fact that every program on my Mac and Windows computers has its own purchase structure - Office365 (and its constantly changing identity) for MS Office, Adobe store for Creative Cloud, Imaginit and Autodesk for AutoCAD, and the list goes on. It's a mess.

I'm curious why people who want an open platform don't just buy an Android device to give you the openness you crave instead of expecting everyone who likes the sandboxed security to give their preference up?
 
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