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Also, wasn't / isn't the percentage on other app stores (smart phone & game console) similar to 30%? I believe I saw someone else, maybe Google, lower their cut to 15% after Apple dropped their out.As per the percentage? to the layman 30 seems high doesn't it... but what the hell do we know how much it costs to run and maintain?? Isn't that 30% also pretty standard from Google and other similar services?
Then I suppose everyone involved in this case, or everyone who ever takes the stand anywhere for any case for that matter, is to be deemed a liar.The ones who lies, needs to practice, to not get caught lying.
Hey Tim, this is not a Keynote btw. no way to impress with rhetoric,too.
30% appears to be a common percentage in terms of fees.any why shouldn't they?
Its a 'gravy train' that Apple created from scratch... and maintains and runs 24/7 since.
Thats the deal. You want to use the service to sell your app to an audience of literally billions worldwide? On a platform that they provided..? a commission seems totally reasonable to me.
As per the percentage? to the layman 30 seems high doesn't it... but what the hell do we know how much it costs to run and maintain?? Isn't that 30% also pretty standard from Google and other similar services?
Also in terms of on-base percentages.30% appears to be a common percentage in terms of fees.
I don't think you understand how the law works. A single carelessly worded answer may cause unintended damage, whether you are speaking the truth or not.The ones who lies, needs to practice, to not get caught lying.
Hey Tim, this is not a Keynote btw. no way to impress with rhetoric,too.
Is it your testimony that you value your right testicle more than your left one?oh, and i'm pretty sure Adobe and MS didn't willingly put their stuff on MAS at 30%. willing to bet my left nut they get 15% if not lower.
oh, they can set whatever the price they want. i just want the public to know whether that price is reasonable or not (especially since locking device to their store only by definition does not allow for any competition on that price)
Mac users can download from outside the App Store. Why can’t iOS?I still dont get, that this is still going on. It is the same situation like this. I have small shop in a Shoppil Mall Center where a lot of other shops are, im paying 30% of my earn to the Shoping mall owner, i dont have to pay for anything else, like rent, advertising, electricity, or a security engineer, or a network adminisrtator, i can focus on one thing only that that is my product(s). On top of that for clouple of months or a year now if i earn less that $1 million in a year i pay just 15% of my earn. Ok this are the facts.
Now im unsatisfied with this conditions a want to have all of that above ( like rent, advertising, electricity, or a security engineer, or a network adminisrtator, ) a a lot of more also the platfrom which im developing my app for free, and a dont want to pay anything to the landlord of the shopping mall so instead that the land lodt will throw me out i will sue him that he is a monopy and i cand pay some other landlord which has nothing to do wit the shopping mall that im in ....
Im sorry but are the Judges in America total IDIOTS or what.
Could users on Xbox pay outside of the Plattform ... NO, could users on Sony pay oustside of the Plattform ... NO, could users on Nitendo pay outside of the Plattfrom ... NOOO, could Google (Android) user pay outside of the Plattfrom probably asno NOOOO .... what the heck, why is Apple a Monopoly Hehe and why did Apple get sued ... wenn i know for sure, because if epic would sue someone of theese oether ... it just get unnnoticed whi case about some non interesant battle betweeen gamers, but when you have Apple somwhere it gent the first page on every magazine .... thats why a this is **** not what they want or a unfair commision from apple or someone else.
Fine, but that won’t do it. He needs to point out that Apple’s commish is on parity with other marketplaces; that Apple enables the developer community, particularly small developers, rather than harms it; and most importantly that Apple helps consumers by screening apps and setting participation rules for their store. Touting their economic success is a dead end for Apple in this scenario, and probably harmful.Cook is expected to defend the App Store by touting its economic success, and the entirely new industry it has created.
In other words, you really have no idea about any of these numbers. As anyone with forum experience knows, giveaway phrases such as “like 90%,” “say 30-40%,” “pretty sure it's close to that,” and “if not lower” are all tip offs. And betting either nut won’t give you this knowledge.imo theres only one question worth asking and not sure if they can (or want to) disclose it: what profit margin app store operates on. if its say 30-40% - all good. if ifs like 90% (and i'm pretty sure its close to that number) then 30% rev cut is nothing more than a cash grab on developers that have no other option to sell their app/services.
oh, and i'm pretty sure Adobe and MS didn't willingly put their stuff on MAS at 30%. willing to bet my left nut they get 15% if not lower.
Good luck Tim. I'm expecting a passionate, albeit somewhat insincere, plea to protect Apple's App Store gravy train. There's a lot on the line here!
Good point. And since there is a lot on the line, Tim should give the testimony, sincere or insincere, that he feels needs to be given, and to heck with MacRumors comments on the testimony.Good luck Tim. I'm expecting a passionate, albeit somewhat insincere, plea to protect Apple's App Store gravy train. There's a lot on the line here!
Nobody outside of Apple has any idea about those numbers, which is exactly my point. All i'm saying, if this is in fact gigantic cash grab on developers then i'd like to know about that.In other words, you really have no idea about any of these numbers. As anyone with forum experience knows, giveaway phrases such as “like 90%,” “say 30-40%,” “pretty sure it's close to that,” and “if not lower” are all tip offs. And betting either nut won’t give you this knowledge.
It's probably not so far from the truth, except the court will probably find Apple is not involved in any monopoly or anti-competition.Ugh it's so annoying how Apple is making Tim spend so much time on a frivolous task like this. His time is better spent on doing far more valuable things, like inventing new technologies that we can all enjoy. Besides, he doesn't need to prepare; he's Tim! He's got it. All he has to do is walk in there say "Yeah, so I run an anti-competitive, monopolistic App Store. Who cares? People love throwing money at me. Sue me." *Drops mic* and walks out. Nuff said. Nothing he says or do will change anything lol 😂
Being an IOS developer is opt-in. Nobody is forcing a dev to opt in. But once they do and set a price, devs get a complete management platform, app discovery, management, testing, distribution and access to 1 billion devices. 30% in that context seems worth it and also fair. As an ex-dev, the fee was worth to me. And even if it is a cash grab, there is no law (at least not up until now) prohibiting Apple (google or anyone else) from charging that fee.Nobody outside of Apple has any idea about those numbers, which is exactly my point. All i'm saying, if this is in fact gigantic cash grab on developers then i'd like to know about that.
iPhone is successful in part because of the App Store. they need devs to sell those devices. seems unfair it they charge them excessively just to make even more on iPhone sales.
Every judge would recommend you to prepare yourself.The ones who lies, needs to practice, to not get caught lying.
Hey Tim, this is not a Keynote btw. no way to impress with rhetoric,too.
Apple's App Store wasn't even the first app store on iOS. I'm not sure what they created.Its a 'gravy train' that Apple created from scratch... and maintains and runs 24/7 since.
Thank god this is a trial with (mostly) competent prosecutors and not a senate hearing with tech-illiterate senators asking mind-boggling and irrelevant questions like the Zuckerberg / Facebook hearing.Looking forward to a good exchange. I hope the questions are tough and to the point.