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Veinticinco

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A few weeks ago, the co-founder of Innocent (big UK fruit drinks company) was on BBCs Question Time. He said that accountants had told them to relocate there head office to the Netherlands. They just needed to tick boxes like holding a few board meetings there etc. To save taxes. He said they weren't interested as they were a London company and should pay taxes here in the UK. And that meant the correct amount of taxes. Good to see some businesses are ethical.
So "ethical" they sold 90% of the company to the eco-friendly, tree-hugging, child obesity campaigners, Coca-Cola. They have the luxury of not having to worry too much about corporate tax.
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Apple loves Ireland ... so much that they don't even have an Apple store in the country. Pull the other one Tim!
...just not committed enough to, oh I don't know... open an Apple Store in the country, perhaps...
That lack of a retail presence is the critical part in how they have/continue to be able to avoid tax and benefit from having their European HQ in Ireland. Of course, they still have a few Apple Stores in all but name to get around that pesky inconvenience. Officially "authorised sellers" but compuB have a VERY close relationship with Cork let's just say.
 
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Bacillus

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Tough crowd. Wondering how well these arm chair CEOs are doing with their company.
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Shareholders love Tim Cook, so we pretty much like everything he says and does.
I am not impressed at all with Apple share price performance, relative to actual growth.
Which mainly isn’t TC’s fault, btw.
But I am seriously disappointed about TC as a CEO. Which is.

Furthermore, as a shareholder abroad, due to the limited insight and say in the matter Apple gives me, sitting in a chair is the only option to follow them. Which is unnecessary difficult by their secrecy tenure.
So your negative snark about that says more about yourself.
I guess your commentary is a rather oversimplistic non-argument.
 
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Gilligan's last elephant

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So "ethical" they sold 90% of the company to the eco-friendly, tree-hugging, child obesity campaigners, Coca-Cola. They have the luxury of not having to worry too much about corporate tax.
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That lack of a retail presence is the critical part in how they have/continue to be able to avoid tax and benefit from having their European HQ in Ireland. Of course, they still have a few Apple Stores in all but name to get around that pesky inconvenience. Officially "authorised sellers" but compuB have a VERY close relationship with Cork let's just say.
I'm not passing any judgement on who people choose to sell their shares to. That is different to companies and corporations using sleekit methods of avoiding taxes.
People posting here from ADL seem to take the attitude that companies are "duty bound" to be sleekit and devious to avoid taxes.
 

threesixty360

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Sorry Tim, but anyone with a business major, or anyone with a thread of common sense for that matter, knows you’re BSing
They’ve been in Ireland for decades. It’s a native English speaking country in Europe as well. I think tases are part of it but they also have had a very comfortable relationship with country and government there. I think they counts for a lot as well as tax issues.
 
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Buck Mulligan

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So "ethical" they sold 90% of the company to the eco-friendly, tree-hugging, child obesity campaigners, Coca-Cola. They have the luxury of not having to worry too much about corporate tax.
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That lack of a retail presence is the critical part in how they have/continue to be able to avoid tax and benefit from having their European HQ in Ireland. Of course, they still have a few Apple Stores in all but name to get around that pesky inconvenience. Officially "authorised sellers" but compuB have a VERY close relationship with Cork let's just say.
That's really interesting. So for some reason Apple are "based in Ireland" but don't exist "in Ireland". So no Apple Stores (as such) and no support or sponsorship to worthy groups within Ireland. They want to remain invisible. The data centre was important as re-affirming some future contact with Ireland but this too has vaporised.

Back in the 90s when we ordered Macs in Dublin (which were built in Cork) we were told that we would have to wait 3 weeks. When we complained that they were manufactured just down the road in Cork we were told that they had to be shipped to the Netherlands first and then re-imported into Ireland. Now what was that all about? One day the truth about Apple and Ireland will come out.
 
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