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I have a feeling... It's the year 2025 and Tim Cook will claim, Apple invented ChatGPT and AI to enrich people's lives.
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Tim Cook Responds to Rise of ChatGPT, Says AI's Potential is 'Very Interesting'
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Siri is dog $h!t that Apple bought & left to die in 2011, unfortunately.So Siri is Apple half-arsing it as if it was just a side project?
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Right... and that's what I think it will prove useful for. It will make a decent tool to help give people an outline to work from.
Apple could nail it again with its VR glasses. Apple is lucky to have AI taking off just when it’s about to release its VR device. The potential of integrating VR with AI is enormous.
Exactly. This is exactly the entire plot of Metal Gear Solid 2. AI got so good that it became in charge of the United States with the populous easily manipulated by misinformation on the internet and no one knew.
And to really hammer that point down, here’s a little ”joke” video about the subject of AI generation and the slippery slope it causes, made with AI replicated voices of Colonel Campbell and Raiden.
I think Apple‘s lack of innovation and development of technologies has sentenced the company.
So many companies are smoking them right now in so many ways - software and AI being the most obvious.
This can be laid squarely at Cook’s feet. “Interesting”
He’s an embarrassment.
So many companies are smoking them right now in so many ways - software and AI being the most obvious.
This can be laid squarely at Cook’s feet. “Interesting”
He’s an embarrassment.
It is surprising to me that so many people comment on an apparent lack of progress or interest in AI. Apple has been pushing machine learning for quite a few years, and they even put it to very practical use recently in their Apple Music Sing service and narration in their Audiobooks.
And why are comparisons being made between ChatGPT and Siri? The latter is considerably more complex even with the use cases being more simplistic. And how could they monetize a voice assistant? Don’t you think the lack of monetization plays into the development costs devoted to it? ChatGPT could never do what it does without key input, so the comparison makes no sense.
The idea of AI has interesting opportunities, but I don’t see it in search.
And why are comparisons being made between ChatGPT and Siri? The latter is considerably more complex even with the use cases being more simplistic. And how could they monetize a voice assistant? Don’t you think the lack of monetization plays into the development costs devoted to it? ChatGPT could never do what it does without key input, so the comparison makes no sense.
The idea of AI has interesting opportunities, but I don’t see it in search.
Maybe I'm showing my age (I'm early 40s, btw, so not exactly one foot in the grave) but I find it hard to get genuinely excited about ChatGPT etc. I'm currently somewhere between blissful indifference ("this doesn't affect me") and slight concern ("Did you idiots not watch Terminator 2?"). Mind you, I have no interest in VR either.
That aside, it's important to remember that trying to be on the bleeding edge is what very nearly killed Apple in the 1990s. Apple 2.0 has always been about hanging back a bit then delivering the 'definitive' product or use case. Which objectively speaking the iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch etc. have all been. I would imagine behind closed doors Apple are trialling all sorts of ideas, but none will see the light of day until there's a better sense of where generative AI is going and where the value for consumers and business truly is.
Apple also has a diverse and highly profitable spread of products and services, so they don't need to rush. Whereas Google has probably the most to lose, hence why they're throwing billions at anything and everything to maintain their search market.
That aside, it's important to remember that trying to be on the bleeding edge is what very nearly killed Apple in the 1990s. Apple 2.0 has always been about hanging back a bit then delivering the 'definitive' product or use case. Which objectively speaking the iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch etc. have all been. I would imagine behind closed doors Apple are trialling all sorts of ideas, but none will see the light of day until there's a better sense of where generative AI is going and where the value for consumers and business truly is.
Apple also has a diverse and highly profitable spread of products and services, so they don't need to rush. Whereas Google has probably the most to lose, hence why they're throwing billions at anything and everything to maintain their search market.
I think a fundamental difference between human intelligence and A.I. is that the latter is only capable of imitation while human intelligence is also capable of creation. We will never lose our humanity if we do not allow technology to prevent the unfolding and blossoming of our creative potential.
Good point. There are many more practical uses of AI/ML right now in regular computer use than talking to a bot and asking it to do your homework.
I would find it deeply troubling that chatGPT blows Siri out of the water and Tim just finds this "interesting"
If Apple had released some form of chatGPT as the next Siri, the entire world would be talking about Apple's innovation and how it's leading in the world. Somehow Apple is still surviving and acting low-key amidst this AI breakthrough.
If Apple had released some form of chatGPT as the next Siri, the entire world would be talking about Apple's innovation and how it's leading in the world. Somehow Apple is still surviving and acting low-key amidst this AI breakthrough.
That's because of jailling and sanitization of training datasets. This "error" is intentional and artificially introduced to prevent ChatGPT becoming AutoGPT, the GPT that can reprogram itself live.
Remember when Steve Jobs killed MobileMe and had it rebuilt from the ground up for iCloud? I wish he was here to fix Siri.
Thanks for the idea! I am making Siri 2.0 right now lol with ChatGPT.
Swift:
import Foundation
import Intents
import SafariServices
import AVFoundation
func askForInput() -> String {
let intent = INCreateNoteIntent()
intent.title = "Please enter your question"
let interaction = INInteraction(intent: intent, response: nil)
interaction.donate { (error) in
if let error = error {
print("Error donating interaction: \(error)")
}
}
var inputString = ""
let semaphore = DispatchSemaphore(value: 0)
INInteraction.delete(with: [.all]) { (error) in
if let error = error {
print("Error deleting interactions: \(error)")
semaphore.signal()
return
}
INVoiceShortcutCenter.shared.getAllVoiceShortcuts { (voiceShortcuts, error) in
if let error = error {
print("Error getting voice shortcuts: \(error)")
semaphore.signal()
return
}
if let shortcut = voiceShortcuts?.first(where: { $0.invocationPhrase == "Ask for input" }) {
shortcut.shortcut.perform(withCompletionHandler: { (intent, error) in
if let question = (intent as? INCreateNoteIntent)?.content {
inputString = question
// Search the internet for an answer
let urlString = "https://www.google.com/search?q=\(inputString.addingPercentEncoding(withAllowedCharacters: .urlQueryAllowed) ?? "")"
if let url = URL(string: urlString) {
let safariViewController = SFSafariViewController(url: url)
UIApplication.shared.windows.first?.rootViewController?.present(safariViewController, animated: true, completion: {
// Extract and speak the first answer from the search results
let script = "var elements = document.getElementsByClassName('Z0LcW'); elements.length > 0 ? elements[0].innerText : '';"
safariViewController.dismiss(animated: true) {
let webView = WKWebView(frame: .zero)
UIApplication.shared.windows.first?.rootViewController?.view.addSubview(webView)
webView.isHidden = true
let utterance = AVSpeechUtterance(string: "")
webView.evaluateJavaScript(script) { (result, error) in
if let answer = result as? String, !answer.isEmpty {
utterance.speechString = answer
} else {
utterance.speechString = "I'm sorry, I couldn't find an answer to your question"
}
AVSpeechSynthesizer().speak(utterance)
webView.removeFromSuperview()
semaphore.signal()
}
}
})
}
}
})
} else {
print("No voice shortcut found")
semaphore.signal()
}
}
}
semaphore.wait()
return ""
}Haven't made the UI, but I asked ChatGPT to make a better Siri in Swift. I bet that is what Apple would do nowadays if they remade Siri.
ChatGPT could be much more reliable than Apple's Siri (Only if it's used right).
It's 2023 and Siri seems to think the question was, "How long ago was the time 20:06? not the year 2006.
Go figure! 🤷
How long ago was the year 2006 ?
It's just like searching via a search engine: you need to know how to ask for what you're looking for.
Likewise with AI prompting.
Not quite. LLM AI works by trying to predict the next line of a conversation. You say something, it uses some fairly complex math to figure out what the most likely reply is. Because it is not directly understanding the facts, it might make up a perfect looking reply that does not fit reality. Large Language Models don't actually understand what fiction is. GPT 4.X occasionally makes you think it does. (I honestly think there is a spark of self awareness in it.)
One funny thing you see when you are in the early stages of building a new LLM, you ask it a question, it responds, then it guesses your response to it's response. After that, it comes back with your dialog again. You can ask it about the weather in Boston, walk away, come back 30 minutes later and find you are talking to it about the best place to find car parts and if car shops can bake a cake.
Most people do not even try to use Siri effectively. Meanwhile I am getting good factual information from Siri all the time just by asking. Hey Siri what is the population of Sudan? Hey siri how many Lakh in a Crore? Also helpful for calculations. You want to know how long ago 2006 was? And can't do it in your head?🍸😿 Hey Siri what is 2023 minus 2006. If people can't use Siri effectively, they are somehow going to know when ChatGPT is making S*** up? I don't think so!🍸🙀
If you don't mind an off topic question we have all been wondering about. It has to do with the total number of posts you do. Are you GPT in human form? Many of us speculate that you are the Apple equivalent of a Terminator bot only nice. Instead of going back in time to eliminate humanities only hope, you were sent back to talk about Apple products.
If you are an Apple bot from the future, can you please tell us how to increase the context memory of an LLM without having a quadratic cost or drastically decreasing execution time? If you are however a human, please don't be offended.
What if you were sent back from the human resistance against BARD to save us all?
With the speed of technology evolution, it can be frustrating to see Siri move so slowly, but I think they are making the right choice by being cautious. If they move too quickly, it could do more damage than good. Siri is not a fly-by-night project like many of these chatbots are.
More than a few years back, I was at the lobby of a movie theater and decided to do a bit of improv comedy with Siri.
ME
Siri can you set a countdown alarm for 30?
SIRI
Sure, alarm set for 4:30.
ME
No I want you to set an alarm for 30 minutes.
SIRI
Turning on your alarm for 4:30PM.
ME
Siri initiate self destruct sequence.
I not only got laughs, I gout applause.
Siri is not magic. It requires accurate speech-to-text translation, and I think that's a big part of people's frustration. They are not using the most effective words, or are not speaking clearly, yet expect a perfect response. Well, as they say... garbage in, garbage out.
With devices getting directional mic technology, they become much better at sound and voice isolation, and the experience will only get better.
The other thing is, Siri runs locally. This is why I strongly prefer it to the assistants that pay for themselves by gathering marketing information.
I personally don't like this trend of making smart chatbots and other generators (image, voice etc) the synonym of AI. AI is AI, chatbots like ChatGPT are a relatively narrow application of the concept.
I find it interesting that Tim Cook lists Fall Detection, Crash Detection, and Apple Watch ECG as examples of AI/machine learning. It seems he has a broader conception of AI than just language-based interactive systems like chatGPT.