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Can you point me to the place where I said that she shouldn't earn that much? I have no issue whatever people earn.

The comparison was between a CEO of a company having revenues of $275Bn p/a being paid $14m and one with a revenue of $4bn being made $664m (or 47 times more than Tim).

If anything, Tim is under paid.
I thought it was implied when you said who is worth £1.8M a day. Apologies for the confusion
 
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it works out at just under 50%. Apple dodges taxes left right and centre all around the world and everyone knows it, I have no problem with it that's business, but don't dress them up to be holier than thou when they aren't.
If you think that's true because "everyone knows it", I would advise you to actually look at the data. Yes, they have kept their revenue in Ireland but the only country that loses from that is the US as they aren't repatriating.

Otherwise, just under 50% on billions of dollars is absolutely absurd.
 
If you think that's true because "everyone knows it", I would advise you to actually look at the data. Yes, they have kept their revenue in Ireland but the only country that loses from that is the US as they aren't repatriating.

Otherwise, just under 50% on billions of dollars is absolutely absurd.
How is the Coates family tax bill of just under 50% on their personal wages of £1.1 billion absurd?

Buying anything on-line through Apple in the UK goes through Ireland who have an ultra low tax rate for Apple, Apples UK tax of £6 million on UK sales of £1.4 billion, (that doesn't include services or subscriptions) is what's absurd. but hey ho you defend them.
 
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That analogy is pretty good, until you factor labor into the equation, and venture fund capitalists for that matter. There should certainly be a huge payout for taking risks, it simply shouldn't reward into perpetuity with no chance of losing it all at any point after that. Then add in lobbying and you're practically bribing the dealer to make sure you never lose too much.
Seriously, did you even read the original post I made? What has any of this to do with what I posted? I have no disagreement with what you are posting other then it is unrelated to what I posted. Feel free to post but leave me out of it.
 
If the game of blackjack is as rig as the wealth gap is, than yes. Most people will never have $5000 to bet since they will never have the opportunities given to the 1%. Open your eyes and look around. People work hard for pennies without ever having the opportunity to improve. The best way to keep citizens under control is to keep them from having the opportunity to growing.
Which would be the point of my original posting had you read it. Post away but leave me out of it.
 
I’m all for capitalism and working hard, but something is fundamentally wrong with our society when $14m/y salary is considered modest for any individual.
 
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His total compensation (salary plus stock options) in 2018 was $136M. In 2019 it was $125M. This $14M figure for 2020 is certainly just looking at salary and doesn't include stock options.
 
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It took me 10 seconds to learn that Tim Cook was born on November 1st, 1960, making him 60 years old. Come on, people, at least try.

Though North America has a significant issue with pay gap that will need to be dealt with one way or another Tim Cook is neither the creator of the issue nor the biggest beneficiary. Unfortunately his compensation actually represents the more moderate end of the spectrum which simply makes it more clear how big the problem is overall.

Yeah, overcompensation is a systemic infection. I remember a company wasn't doing so well about ten years ago. They had just given their 'management team' raises, and bonuses. A hedge fund investor balked at the increases, and the company spokesperson said, with a straight face, that they had to compensate people at a level high enough to retain them, to make them want to stay. Many people said that they were performing so poorly, they should get their pay CUT not raised. Eventually, some of their management was fired, but the raises stayed.

And, this discussion ignores the entire back side of this issue: GOLDEN PARACHUTES!

15 or so years ago, a health insurance company CEO was 'asked' to quit. His top request, aside from corporate jet access, and of course huge monthly payments was, for him and his wife, 'Total Healthcare Coverage'. That last bit was galling... The company would be required to cover ALL of their healthcare COMPLETELY! No co-pays, no games, they would cover 100% of their healthcare, in perpetuity, until they died.

A health insurance company that made billions a year out of denying people life saving treatment, and medicines, and the jackal wanted, and got, the Cadillac of Cadillac agreements! How disgusting!!! I'd force him to take their lowest coverage, and lump it. Especially considering he was being 'asked' to quit. Apparently he had them over a barrel or something. He walked with a hell of a parachute deal. And, apparently he was a complete malignant POS human being.

As an aside, I worked at a university for years, and they were forced to release the salaries of the 'upper crust' there. People were surprised how much people made, but horrified at the amount of money the FOOTBALL COACH made. He extorted almost twice what the university president got. The assistant coach made just under the president's salary. For 'sports'. Good grief...
 
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How is the Coates family tax bill of just under 50% on their personal wages of £1.1 billion absurd?

Buying anything on-line through Apple in the UK goes through Ireland who have an ultra low tax rate for Apple, Apples UK tax of £6 million on UK sales of £1.4 billion, (that doesn't include services or subscriptions) is what's absurd. but hey ho you defend them.

I am not defending Apple on that. It's just completely different than the wage and personal income tax of a CEO. Taxing them higher above a certain amount encourages them to leave more of it for their employees rather than themselves. It is meant to be painful, it's also the entire point of a progressive tax system.

Apple isn't supposed to be taxed on revenue, no company is. Their profits after administrative expenses for the quarter you are referencing was 39 million, not 1.4 billion. If the money were being funneled, it would never have been as high as 1.4 billion anyway...sounds like you're doing a bit of that "everybody knows this" crap again.
 
Seriously, did you even read the original post I made? What has any of this to do with what I posted? I have no disagreement with what you are posting other then it is unrelated to what I posted. Feel free to post but leave me out of it.
I merely clicked reply, sorry if there was more to it.
 
M1? Apple Watch? iPhone 12? Literally every single product is a vast improvement in speed and efficiency since he started running the company. The stock is waaaay more valuable as a reflection of this. I'm no Tim Apple fanboy, and people may disagree with his politics, but he has undeniably and objectively done a good job running this company. By every metric.
Sorry but I totally disagree with you. All the big tech stocks have boomed in the past few years. Do you think Zuckerberg is doing a good job because Facebook shares are up?
 
I’m all for capitalism and working hard, but something is fundamentally wrong with our society when $14m/y salary is considered modest for any individual.
Considering Apple has the largest market cap in the world, any CEO making more than Cook is wasting shareholder money.
 
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For a company worth about $2 trillion and brings in $billions in profit every year, that’s actually pretty sad.
Are you confusing median with mean? Median salary is the middle salary. If you have 5 employees, the median is the third-highest (or third-lowest) of the bunch. I expect their mean salary is probably much higher, given the high compensation of their engineering and executive staff, but I expect their median to be relatively low given the large number of lesser-compensated retail employees.
 
Sorry but I totally disagree with you. All the big tech stocks have boomed in the past few years. Do you think Zuckerberg is doing a good job because Facebook shares are up?

Considering Facebook has 2.85 billion active users, with Q1 2021 revenue of $26 billion (up 48% over the previous year's Q1 quarter) I would say he's doing a fantastic job.
 
Is it me or is the pay measely? I mean for a guy who is responsible for everything a $2T company does...$15M seems a little bit low.

Also, why even bother pay Dorsey $1.40, I wonder how the accountant's face looked as he was putting this in the ledger.
 
Is it me or is the pay measely? I mean for a guy who is responsible for everything a $2T company does...$15M seems a little bit low.

Also, why even bother pay Dorsey $1.40, I wonder how the accountant's face looked as he was putting this in the ledger.
Nobody needs more than that per year. The pay for CEOs is completely out of control. CEOs with outrageous salaries usually tend to be bad anyway… they care about themselves more than the company.
 
Sorry but I totally disagree with you. All the big tech stocks have boomed in the past few years. Do you think Zuckerberg is doing a good job because Facebook shares are up?
Apple were the first to reach a trillion dollar valuation, they dominate the wearable market and have successfully challenged Intels dominance with their move to the M1 chip that has the potential to skyrocket their Mac sales all over again.

Let’s be honest here, there’s probably nothing Apple could do that would make you happy. Why not just admit that and move on?
 
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Still holds true for median. Like if salaries were $1, $2, $5, $10, $15 $100, and $1,000, with the latter 2 being executives. The median is $10. I originally said if we get rid of the executives, it'll go down. So now we just have just $1, $2, $5, $10, and $15. The median now is $5.

Your example doesn't reflect Apple.

It is more like $1 * 60,000 + $2 * 40,000 + $5 * 20,000 + $15 * 10000 + $100 * 1000 + $1000 * 50

It doesn't really matter what happens to the most payed people at Apple when it comes to the median.
 
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