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Solution for Hot Time Capsule/ apple TV

I found a guy selling an anodized aluminum cooling stand for the Time Capsule. His company realized that Apple will never admit that it is strange how HOT they get. They are simple and match the Apple MB aluminum case. any interest??
 
after my HD swap in mine with a WD caviar green drive (runs quieter and cooler) the performance increased and the temperature decreased
 
becareful everyone Time Capsules right now have a 16-18 Month Life Cycle... alot of peoples Time Capsules are completely dying after that time... no power, no spinning drives, no lights, no fans... nothing... read about it on apples message boards....

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2091667&tstart=0

and i started a thread here about it...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/787916/


ps. i am one of the unlucky owners of a $300 apple branded Paper Weight!

Thanks for picking this up. Mine just died too. :( There obviously seems to be a manufacturing defect that manifests at 18 months. Apple needs to look into this. This device is supposed to add security and peace of mind to your data and its becoming a liability.
 
after my HD swap in mine with a WD caviar green drive (runs quieter and cooler) the performance increased and the temperature decreased

I did this when I first bought my time capsule to replace the stock 500GB drive. However, yesterday I noticed that the time capsule is too hot to touch. It wasn't in the process of doing a backup either since I have turned off the automatic backup as it seems to interfere with the wireless connection.

I'm not sure what to make of this. It makes me quite nervous. I wonder if the updated time capsules run as hot and/or issues with the wifi signal during backup.
 
Time Capsule Power Problem

This Saturday I woke up to a dead 1TB Time Capsule. No lights from the LEDs. I tried a different power cord, different outlets and the best I could do was to get it to power up for a few seconds and then it would shut down. I Googled around and found this link http://www.tuaw.com/2009/09/11/are-apple-time-capsules-out-of-time/ and that led me to the Apple User Forum discussion board. There were several threads there, each about 10 pages long, with users in the same boat I am in.

Yes, my Capsule is around 18 months old, just like all the others that have broken. :mad:

The problem is the internal temperature causes the power supply to fail. Yesterday I went to the local Apple store to see a genius. He got the same results I did, told me how rare this problem is (yeah right), I pointed out to him the hundreds of posts in Apple's own forum describing this problem.

For such a "rare" problem, he quickly gave me a rote, apparently well rehearsed answer, which I summarize below:

"It is out of warranty. We can fix it for $499, and Apple will destroy/erase the drive. Or you can buy a new Capsule for $299 and keep the old Capsule, then you can remove the drive and put it in a disk enclosure and use it."

It really makes no sense. The out of warranty repair is $499 and it is really a swap and you don't even get your files back or have any certainty that critical information is safeguarded (banking, tax returns, etc.), or buy a new one for $200 less? Well, I certainly won't buy another one and suffer through this again 18 months later. :(

They tout the Capsule as using a "server grade" drive. The implication being that the mean time before failure should be something like one million hours, but if you followed those links I put above, you can expect it to last 18 months.

Apple has set up no data recovery service for users of failed capsules to retrieve their data (backups and other files you may have stored there). Furthermore they are not owning up to the fact that it is a flawed design and hundreds if not thousands of them are failing prematurely. They could have put the power supply externally and cut down on the temperature rise, or improve the cooling and air flow. It's a case of aesthetics before robustness.

Please don't think of this as a rant. Consider it a warning. If your Capsule is getting anywhere nears 14 to 18 months old, you better have a backup drive for backing up the contents of your Capsule periodically because ... it will fail.

I have been a Mac user since the old SE and have championed the Mac inside my company, fighting the Windoze oriented IT department. I have even recommended the Time Capsule to others. I feel Apple has let us down on this product and they are doing nothing to correct it.
 
Rudy - I am with you on this. I called Applecare today and apparently it is covered because I have Applecare on my laptop. We will see, when I get over to the local Applestore.

If they do replace it, it's still annoying to lose over 12-months of data AND knowingly hand over a device which has my personal data intact. The power supply failed, but the drive was fine...:mad:

This is clearly a manufacturing defect. I just can't believe the media hasn't picked up on it yet. So many time capsules are failing that it Apple needs to step up to the plate and issue a recall.
 
Rudy - I am with you on this. I called Applecare today and apparently it is covered because I have Applecare on my laptop. We will see, when I get over to the local Applestore.

If they do replace it, it's still annoying to lose over 12-months of data AND knowingly hand over a device which has my personal data intact. The power supply failed, but the drive was fine...:mad:

This is clearly a manufacturing defect. I just can't believe the media hasn't picked up on it yet. So many time capsules are failing that it Apple needs to step up to the plate and issue a recall.

Thanks Cal and good luck on your replacement.
 
I did this when I first bought my time capsule to replace the stock 500GB drive. However, yesterday I noticed that the time capsule is too hot to touch. It wasn't in the process of doing a backup either since I have turned off the automatic backup as it seems to interfere with the wireless connection.

I'm not sure what to make of this. It makes me quite nervous. I wonder if the updated time capsules run as hot and/or issues with the wifi signal during backup.


that is odd, i constantly place my hand on mine to check the temps and it has never been anything i would even consider warm
 
Apple wouldn't own up to this being an endemic problem with the Time Capsules and would do nothing for me, other than selling me a new one. So, I am in the process of performing an "organ" transplant on my Capsule.:rolleyes:

I have removed the internal power supply and will be replacing it with an external one from an old Cisco router, plus modifying the fan circuitry and air intake. These mods will let the Capsule run way cooler.

I didn't come up with these mods myself, they were developed by a guy in Australia. You can read about these modifications here.

You can buy a used but guaranteed Cisco power supply from eBay for around $20 and if you are good with soldering and have some basic tools, you'll have a much improved Time Capsule for around $25 out the door.
 
I have troubleshot four different models of the time capsule. I noticed that the earlier generations of the T.C.'s got hotter than the later generations. Here are the Generations and models (from the hottest to the cooler ones) I experienced:

G1 A1254/MB27x
G2 A1302/MB76x
G3 A1355/MB99x
G4 A1355/MC34x

ldh
 
I have just resurrected a TC with blown capacitors thanks to a $15 "Time Capsule repair kit" on eBay. Moderately difficult but doable. Need soldering skills and steady hands.

The capacitors are rated at 105 degrees, and the exterior shell (now that it's running again) is showing 104.1 on my infrared gun. I am sure inside it's higher yet.

As part of the repair/replacement you have to remove the rubber backing on the bottom (hair dryer on low, pull from one corner, very slow and steady. Don't use a heat gun, which will melt the housing. http://www.youtube.com/ockham51 Harder, slower than it looks in the video.) Revealed is a metal baseplate with many holes for air. I've (re)pulled the rubber, and the temperature has dropped 5 degrees in 10 minutes. I will permanently set it on a few felt or plastic "tabletop lamp protectors" from Lowe's/HD to give air space beneath. Seems to increase the airflow dramatically.

This is poor design. The TC lasted 18 months before dying. Hopefully I'll get several years out of it now that I know what the problem is.
 
It seems the later gen TC's don't suffer as much from heat exhaustion. I had a gen1 that ran blistering hot, but do to the lack of simultaneous bands traded it away. Picked up an early Linksys that did simulataneous bands (610n) and surprisingly, it ran blistering hot as well. It died after a year of operation.

By then the 3d gen TC's were out, runnng much cooler and larger hard drives. It's now been running 24/7 for three years with no noticeable issues.

One thing about the rubber shell on the bottom. My gen1 Apple TV's used to run blistering hot as well. I removed the rubber bottoms with a hairdryer and put some adhesive rubber feet on the corners to raise them up. That made a big difference in bringing the operating temperature down.
 
the only reason the time capsules run hot are due to the power supply running inside the device. Ended up putting a 2 tb WD green drive just to cool down my 1st gen model.
 
Just received an old Gen 1 Time Capsule (A1254) in perfect shape 4 days ago. Real hot when it's running like for everybody I guess.
I took out the rubber mat, cut the center of the mat in a square shape and enlarged that opening at the fan location.
I used the cut part to make feet so to have quarter of an inch space for air circulation.
I put the mat back, the 4 little feet at the bottom.
Also updated to firmware 7.8.1.

Overheating gone.
I don't have tools to make an accurate temp measurement, but it is now very reasonable, at least 10 deg less.
 
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Ha ha -- nice to meet another Gen 1 Time Capsule user. Mine's been running since 2008 and still in service! I must have one with "good" capacitors. I didn't do any heat-related mods other than putting it on a couple of LEGO bricks to raise it off the shelf a bit. Oh, and I also put a 2TB "green" drive in it. Good luck with yours!
 
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