time machine basics....

Discussion in 'macOS' started by bob2131, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. bob2131 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2008
    time machine...does this make a copy of the mac system as a whole?
    or just files and folders?

    can time machine just be used to restore files? or can it be used to go back to a previous system state? eg...leopard to how it was last week, with apps that were installed last week.....

    is it like system restore in windows xp??

    i have an external drive usb...but have used it with windows xp....
    how can i wipe it clean and format it for my new macbook, for use with boot camp?

    like say if my macbook hard drive dies or whatever tomorow.
    say if i had a time machine back up done.
    how would i go about fixing up the mac again?
    would time machine do everytihing? put the applications back on ? like the 3rd party applications that i had installed prior to the mac dieing .

  2. r.j.s Moderator emeritus


    Mar 7, 2007
    First time, entire system. After that, only what's changed.

    No. When you choose to restore the whole system, it will restore to the most recent backup available.

    You have to format it in Disk Utility as HFS+.

    You insert the Leopard DVD and hold C on boot, when the installer appears choose Restore from Time Machine ... from the menu bar. It takes a little while, but it works. That's how I upgraded my HD in my MB, installed the new drive and restored from TM.
  3. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2008
    robert thankyou.

    can time machine be used to browse say the most recent back up....and just pick and choose files to put back onto the macbook? or does it just restore the system as a whole??
    .........say if time machine has been used to back up........say when you connect that drive agian.....can you just explore it......and drag and drop files from external to internal drive??? or will the external drive just be recognised by time machine software??

    so i can format my external drive with disc utility........disc utility the ones thats built into my macbook??? to HFS+.......or third pary software?

    so you put a bigger and faster hard drive into your macbook??
    take origianl one out or take optical drive out?? nice and easy to go back to previous state? all your 3rd pary apps got put back on the mac via time machine??

    sorry for all the qs.

  4. r.j.s Moderator emeritus


    Mar 7, 2007
    You can explore it and pick and choose files, but you can do that from within time machine as well.

    The built-in one, in the utilities folder.

    Bigger drive, from an original 80GB to a 160GB and now up to a 320GB. I just pulled the old one out and plugged the new one in. Takes about 15 min.

    A complete time machine restore will copy everything, including 3rd party apps. The only things that arent copied are folders in your ignore list (in the TM preferences.)

    No problem. Although, I'm about to head to bed, so any more will have to wait, or be answered by someone else.
  5. TH-Gunner macrumors regular

    Mar 28, 2008
    Not true. When you want to do a system restore, you boot from your OSX reinstall/recovery disk. In the menu will be all the checkpoints that can be found when you go to "Enter Time Machine" in the operating system.

    The FORMER. You can pick and choose individual files; I just did it 5 minutes ago :D

    Eh... Both. But you've got to do a lot of clicking if you're just going to browse the disk instead of using the Time Machine software. You'll have to go through all the folders and find the dates and times to find what you're looking for if you browse with Finder.

    You can do it with Disk Utility. Choose the disk, then go to the "Erase" tab. That will give you your options for erasing and reformatting the drive. Note that you lose everything whenever you format, so backup anything you want to keep.

    I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you want to swap internal HDDs of the laptop, you can take the one with your info out and put the fresh, empty one in. If you want to restore all your stuff onto the new HDD from your TM external HDD, you would do this:

    1. Swap the HDDs
    2. Start up the computer holding C with the OSX reinstall disk in the CD drive
    3. Choose to restore from a Time Machine checkpoint
    4. Choose the time
    5. Hit restore
    6. Wait an hour or so, depending on how much stuff you've got

    I like using Carbon Copy Cloner, personally, for making a .dmg out of my internal HDD. I can then restore this .dmg right to my HDD, and everything will look exactly how it did when I backed it up.

    Either way should work. Time Machine is easy for most people anyway.
  6. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2008

    ive installed something and i think its had a knock on effect to logic pro.

    so i want to take logic pro back to a previous state. say 2 weeks ago.

    i do have time machine back ups. can i do this????

    can i just put logic pro back to a previous state?? and at the same time, NOT affect the logic song files, the tracks that i have done in logic.

  7. bob2131 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2008
    hi again.

    ive updated itunes for my new iphone,
    now its asking to update safari in order to browse the itunes store, which in turn wants to update leopard. Theres no option to update safari in software update and the apple site says safari needs a newer version on leopard to run it.
    im on 10.5.4 and wish to remain on this version.

    i do not want to update leopard.

    so i want to restore itunes to version 8 as ive been using for one year.

    (then i want to clone my mac and use that for all updates and testing apps and iphone)

    can i restore my itunes? i have a time machine backup.
    can i just uninstall my current itunes, and then just drag the itunes 8 over from time machine to my macbook??

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