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Does Time-Machine auto-boot your mac to do backups or does your machine have to already be on? I'd like to set it to back up at some point during the night while I'm asleep but I also don't want to have to leave my computer on all night every night.

My most educated guess is that Time-Machine will not auto-boot your machine but depending once you benchmark how long backups typically take you can set up an automatic boot/shutdown time in the energy saver Preferences pane.
 
My most educated guess is that Time-Machine will not auto-boot your machine but depending once you benchmark how long backups typically take you can set up an automatic boot/shutdown time in the energy saver Preferences pane.

Fingers crossed!
 
My most educated guess is that Time-Machine will not auto-boot your machine but depending once you benchmark how long backups typically take you can set up an automatic boot/shutdown time in the energy saver Preferences pane.

You would be correct with that guess.
 
an idea about 18: no BUD connected

18) How does TM work when no BUD is connected?

I have no idea. It is possible that anything done in these intervals is lost forever, it is also possible that Loepard keeps a rolling buffer of changes utilizing free HD space in the background to try and save as much information as possible until the BUD is reconnected.

I guess we can safely say that it will work with temporary backups on the original HDD, because otherwhise, TM would just be useless on laptops, were you can't be permanently connected to your BUD. Working with a temporary backup plan is very simple to implement, and I'd be dissaopinted in Apple if they wouldn't do it that way :(
 
For those wondering about a NAS solution, you can always get one of the new AirPort Extremes with 802.11n networking. They have a new USB disk sharing system (you can plug in many disks via USB hub) and it will work great for Time Machine. You could just do the initial backup directly to the drive, then plug it in to the AirPort and forget. 802.11n speeds (around 100Mb/s I believe) should be enough speed for USB drives and the amount of file writing a Time Machine backup would do.
 
Yes, and hopefully by the time Leopard is out Apple will have patched the AirPort Extreme so attached discs actually spin down when not in use. I've fried one disk already, and now the only disc I dare connect to it is a 500GB LaCie with its own fans, and even that just turn on when needed and turn off as fast as possible afterwords... :(

If they solve that problem I'll get another 500 GB (or bigger) dedicated Time Machine disk for our two machines and have that connected via the AE.
 
I think TimeMachine would be a massive hit if Apple made a "move to mac" software option. Look, you wanna move to a mac right, so what do you do to transfer all your files? You go an buy a copy of Detto's Move to Mac don't you? WRONG!
You grab the Mac OS X DVD that came with your new mac, slam it into the Windows PC and a window will appear telling you which file's you want to transfer and to which apps (ex: Sync: Address Book (checkbox), Mail and accounts (checkbox), Images (checkbox), Photolibrary (checkbox),Documents (checkbox), etc, etc, etc.
and then you press NEXT. In the window a dialog appears asking how to transfer: WiFi, USB, Firewire or Bluetooth.
Select the one you want and Baraboomba!! Done. That would be good wouldn't it?
 
Hey a couple of question just pops up.
Can you have TM do a backup say once a month?
Because i don't have a nas, so will everybody have to buy this for it to work or alternativly have a USB pluged in to my macbook alle the time? :rolleyes:
 
What I want to know is does it need a partition on a disc or does it just dump everything in to a folder ?

So I can Partition my external appropriately know.
 
I have a 40GB external drive laying around. Would you imagine that this would be enough to backup my corefiles and documents... (videofiles and music excluded, as they are on their own external drive)

I know nothing is really definite, but just an idea.
 
I have a 40GB external drive laying around. Would you imagine that this would be enough to backup my corefiles and documents... (videofiles and music excluded, as they are on their own external drive)

I know nothing is really definite, but just an idea.

Steve did say that you couldn't select what you wanted to backup EVERYTHING is backed up
 
Some more info:
There are three new LaunchDaemons having to do with Time Machine if you look. One of these is set to automatically backup every hour on the hour, and I assume this is what is controlled by the "Back Up Automatically" option. However (from what I can see) it does nothing if your BUD is not attached. Normally backupd will log multiple messages to the console as it works, but if the BUD is not attached it seems to do absolutely nothing. No warning message to Console or anything. While at first this seems to be a deal-breaker for laptop users who are constantly on the go, the lack of Console messages to me seems to indicate an incomplete feature...as if the case that handles no BUD present isn't yet in the available builds of Leopard. Of course, that's just speculation; as it stands, Time Machine does nothing if your BUD is not attached. :( :(

Ok, then we look at the second LaunchDaemon. launchd was modified earlier this year to support a 'StartOnMount' property that this daemon uses. Apparently it is supposed to start some special backup task when an external drive (hardware, network, or otherwise) is mounted. However, again, it doesn't yet do anything. As before, this seems to indicate to me that there's still many changes/improvements coming to the way Time Machine works because I doubt Apple's engineers would just randomly add a LaunchDaemon that does absolutely nothing. This could possibly be the way Time Machine knows when to push a yet-to-be-added temporary HD backup to your BUD, or something completely different.

I have no idea what the third LaunchDaemon does. Could be incomplete, I dunno. Seems to do nothing because its set to never run.

I know supposedly Time Machine is supposed to combine those hourly backups into a single daily backup at the end of the day, but I don't see where this is happening unless it isn't added yet (which is certainly possible). Seems a bit annoying to have tons and tons of hourly backups (for non-mobile people, at least) taking up space for months back in time, though, so hopefully this will change.
 
It says that I cannot backup into a folder in an external drive, that the full drive must be used. Could a make a partition in my external and use that so the rest of my external could be used for other things?
 
With the price of externals so low, I'm not sure it wouldn't be easier to just buy an external exclusively for the purpose of back up and another external for non-primary usage.

Just my .02.
 
That is Plan B, but I will have more than enought on the extrenal (1TB) so I would like to keep it to just one if possible.
 
It says that I cannot backup into a folder in an external drive, that the full drive must be used. Could a make a partition in my external and use that so the rest of my external could be used for other things?

Yes.
 
It says that I cannot backup into a folder in an external drive, that the full drive must be used. Could a make a partition in my external and use that so the rest of my external could be used for other things?

On the back-end side of things, there's no practical difference between a large partition taking up the entire drive or a smaller partition taking up only a portion of the drive other than the space difference itself. In other words -- yes, you can use any partition on an external drive; it does not need to take up the full space of the drive.
 
On the back-end side of things, there's no practical difference between a large partition taking up the entire drive or a smaller partition taking up only a portion of the drive other than the space difference itself. In other words -- yes, you can use any partition on an external drive; it does not need to take up the full space of the drive.

So if I wanted to use Time Machine on my iMac and back it up to "partition #1" on an external HDD, then use Time Machine on my MacBook Pro and back it up to "partition #2" on the same external HDD, this would be acceptable, (assuming I have enough disc space)?

Further to this, any room left over (let's say "partition #3") could be used for something normal storage as well?
 
Lets hope it'll recongnize and let us backup a Boot Camp partition. And work easily with compressed data(ZIP or RAR-latter if Apple chose to license the format from RarLabs).
 
So if I wanted to use Time Machine on my iMac and back it up to "partition #1" on an external HDD, then use Time Machine on my MacBook Pro and back it up to "partition #2" on the same external HDD, this would be acceptable, (assuming I have enough disc space)?

Further to this, any room left over (let's say "partition #3") could be used for something normal storage as well?

Yep, that's a perfectly fine setup.
 
It sounds like Time Machine can back up to a samba/cifs share. Am I understanding this right?

Also, can it back up to an NFS share?
 
It sounds like Time Machine can back up to a samba/cifs share. Am I understanding this right?

Also, can it back up to an NFS share?

No reason why it won't but I really would advise against it. NFS has effectively zero security when you get down to it. I wouldn't trust backup data to a server share that has no viable defense against spoofing to get read/write access to your backups.

An offline hard drive is a more reliable backup target than NFS on RAID 5, because of the security issues, but to each his own I suppose.
 
Just wanted to say that Time Machine does NOT require an entire partition to itself. It just makes itself a folder.
Also, it'll back up any drive it can write to.
 
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