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Time of iPhone 3G Launch Remains Unclear
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Why so much hype over '3G' iPhone?
A year ago, the hype was understandable - Apple had launched a product with one key revolutionary innovation - the multi-touch interface. It is a year later, and the new iPhone: a) Lacks real 3G of the speeds we obtain in Europe - up to 7.2Mbs (vital for all that multimedia content!) b) A decent camera (my Nokia N95 8G shoots amazing still and video footage and this is useful, no just fun.) c) The rear of the phone lacks the quality of the original. (Plastic is understandable for signal level reasons but there is not even a cover for the camera lens.) d) There is no stereo bluetooth - yet it is a music device. e) Related: Unless you're stranded at home, the airport or a coffee shop, you cannot even do wireless content downloads - something I can do on my N95 8G. Am not a Nokia fan (have been using Sony Ericsson K800i until last month), but I think the 3G iPhone has created hype way beyond proportion considering it is missing features that have been standard on many phones that have been available for up to 2 years. Anyone who has shot VGA quality moving video will realise how useful and fun this is. And it is perfect for YouTube! I cannot believe, no video recording on the iPhone! And Apple almost invented computer video with QuickTime too.) Yes, the iPhone 3G will sell well and is a joy to use, but is it really as USEFUL as something like the new Nokia E71 (due soon) or some devices from HTC? Thoughts?
A year ago, the hype was understandable - Apple had launched a product with one key revolutionary innovation - the multi-touch interface. It is a year later, and the new iPhone: a) Lacks real 3G of the speeds we obtain in Europe - up to 7.2Mbs (vital for all that multimedia content!) b) A decent camera (my Nokia N95 8G shoots amazing still and video footage and this is useful, no just fun.) c) The rear of the phone lacks the quality of the original. (Plastic is understandable for signal level reasons but there is not even a cover for the camera lens.) d) There is no stereo bluetooth - yet it is a music device. e) Related: Unless you're stranded at home, the airport or a coffee shop, you cannot even do wireless content downloads - something I can do on my N95 8G. Am not a Nokia fan (have been using Sony Ericsson K800i until last month), but I think the 3G iPhone has created hype way beyond proportion considering it is missing features that have been standard on many phones that have been available for up to 2 years. Anyone who has shot VGA quality moving video will realise how useful and fun this is. And it is perfect for YouTube! I cannot believe, no video recording on the iPhone! And Apple almost invented computer video with QuickTime too.) Yes, the iPhone 3G will sell well and is a joy to use, but is it really as USEFUL as something like the new Nokia E71 (due soon) or some devices from HTC? Thoughts?
6 pm
I spoke w/ a good friend of mine from an AT&T kiosk in the mall and she said that they are shutting down for 2 hours, 3p-5p on July 11th, before reopening at 6 - when the phone officially goes on sale. It's going to happen at 6 pm (based on her comments and my belief); not to mention I'll be getting out of work at 3 to goto the apple store and queue up!
Although i'm still slightly apprehensive on upgrading... hmm... Some questions remain: will the plastic be as scratchable as on the iPods? How durable is it? Will that extra spacing on the left and right of the screen bother me?
I spoke w/ a good friend of mine from an AT&T kiosk in the mall and she said that they are shutting down for 2 hours, 3p-5p on July 11th, before reopening at 6 - when the phone officially goes on sale. It's going to happen at 6 pm (based on her comments and my belief); not to mention I'll be getting out of work at 3 to goto the apple store and queue up!
Although i'm still slightly apprehensive on upgrading... hmm... Some questions remain: will the plastic be as scratchable as on the iPods? How durable is it? Will that extra spacing on the left and right of the screen bother me?
No, that's not the fact.
That would make sense, but that also would have made sense last time.
I still haven't managed to get a single AT&T store — including ones others claim have "confirmed" it — to support the 8AM time.
Also, that wasn't a screenshot of the email sent to managers — that was (if true) just an email sent internal to a store...which leads me to think that it's more likely this was a misunderstanding at that one store. They may really be starting early at 8AM, etc., but it's likely for training and launch prep, not that all of AT&T's over 1800 stores across the country, some in retail locations with hours beyond their control, is going to be open at 8AM.
While there are quite a few improvements over the iPhone 1.0, I'm inclined to agree with your statement, due to the fact that Apple has always been on the cutting edge of technological innovation. For the iPhone not to have something as simple as video recording, seems like they've rushed this version out the door without stretching before the big game. I have a feeling iPhone 3.0 will be the one that raises the bar, and if Rogers (in Canada) continues to be Rogers, then that's the version I'll have to wait for anyways.
my $0.02
So why are many of these 3G iPhone 'stories' making Page 1? Shouldn't reports on unconfirmed or conflicting speculations be on Page 2? This is the reason I don't watch network news anymore. When you try to report on what you have no clue about, it just makes you look foolish. And I am not just picking on MacRumors, most all iPhone/Apple related web sites are doing the same. I am going to have to quit reading them until weeks after the release when everyone can start speaking with intelligence and certainty.
Rumors are one thing buy wild a$$ speculation is another.
Shouldn't reports on unconfirmed or conflicting speculations be on Page 2? This is the reason I don't watch network news anymore. When you try to report on what you have no clue about, it just makes you look foolish. And I am not just picking on MacRumors, most all iPhone/Apple related web sites are doing the same. I am going to have to quit reading them until weeks after the release when everyone can start speaking with intelligence and certainty. Rumors are one thing buy wild a$$ speculation is another.
It is - if Apple/ATT open at 6pm and require in-store activation, the lines will be long and slow, and many people may not choose to go opening night. If its 8A, people will have all day to go.
I agree. This is a gripe for me about iPhone coverage. It's a phone. Apple's whipping it up to be a lifestyle (a stretch even by Apple standards) when all it really is is a very pretty phone.
Since someone might be wondering, I'm reading this particular thread to see what could possibly be of interest about iPhone's time of release. In full disclosure, I also stayed up too late working and I haven't had my coffee yet this morning, so I'm particularly cranky.
My apologies for interrupting the flow - please, continue your breathless speculations.
So why are many of these 3G iPhone 'stories' making Page 1?
I hate to break this to you, but Macrumors is hardly "network news".
Yes, and a rumour-site is "slightly" different than a news-site.Rumors are one thing buy wild a$$ speculation is another.
Ok, you don't care about the iPhone, we get it. Now go have your morning coffee and stop peeing in everyone's Cheerios.
I think it is of interest to those who are considering purchasing the v2 iPhone what time the stores will be opening for purchase. There are obviously enough iPhone supporters on here that Arn felt this news was page 1-worthy.
I won't be queuing up on July 11th simply because I'm moving to the UK at the end of July and will wait until then to pick up my new iPhone.
who cares?
There must be something better to speculate on.
I'm looking forward to the second gen iPhone, but I couldn't care less about what time of day they begin to sell them. Heck, I may even wait until July 12th to buy it given I work on Fridays.
If Apple thinks this launch is going to be anything like the first one... they're getting a littler fuller of themselves than usual.
There must be something better to speculate on.
I'm looking forward to the second gen iPhone, but I couldn't care less about what time of day they begin to sell them. Heck, I may even wait until July 12th to buy it given I work on Fridays.
If Apple thinks this launch is going to be anything like the first one... they're getting a littler fuller of themselves than usual.
Don't Think So!!
Please, based on history with Apple, it will make more sense if they started at 6:00 pm, don't have to explain that one. Now, as far as the communication letter is concerned. It's a fake, why, basic principle of language in a formal communication letter to store managers. "yeah guys just give them some pizza and that would do the trick", dude, if my of my employees would make such comments on a formal letter, that has to do with such an important event in my company, HE IS OUT!!!!. You have to be professional, specially if your employees are to respect you.
Please, based on history with Apple, it will make more sense if they started at 6:00 pm, don't have to explain that one. Now, as far as the communication letter is concerned. It's a fake, why, basic principle of language in a formal communication letter to store managers. "yeah guys just give them some pizza and that would do the trick", dude, if my of my employees would make such comments on a formal letter, that has to do with such an important event in my company, HE IS OUT!!!!. You have to be professional, specially if your employees are to respect you.
With all the hype generated on sites like this, one might conclude that the iPhone launch time is considered as significant an historical event as, say, the landing of Apollo 11 on the Moon.
Good lord, get a grip, people. It's a gadget, nothing more.
I'm catching whiffs of astroturf...
Good lord, get a grip, people. It's a gadget, nothing more.
I'm catching whiffs of astroturf...
I spoke to a representative in my nearest O2 shop yesterday regarding the iPhone 3G and she said that they are opening the store at 7:02am GMT+1, and that the iPhone will be available for purchase at that time.
What it IS capable of and meant for are funcitons WAY MORE uselful than any of that ^
Video record? Who cares. Children maybe.
This model is nicer looking and nicer to hold than the original. The metal sucks.
Lacks real 3G? It performs better on 3G than every comparable device. Enjoy your 7.x mbps 3G over there in teh UK with not a single device that comes close to taking advantage of the speeds
So this front page rumor is basically just saying we don't know anything...great. Thumb down on this story.
Nice try on the backtracking logic, but if you had meant it the way you claim, you would have said, "among the first ones", since saying "the first one" would not make sense when talking about Australians as a group as you were.
he is right, to and extent
Ok, well I do know about the details of the launch. Suffice it to say that I work at a retail location and we all got a message about the launch.
1. We will start selling at 6pm and that is public knowledge. I tell that to customers all the time.
2. As for activation we can only guess as we have not heard anything yet. Although there have been confusing stuff posted on inside websites about it.
3. As for June 29 that is not a meeting for the iPhone in our store rather it is one about the services we offer and to become familiar with them.
Thanks!
Ok, well I do know about the details of the launch. Suffice it to say that I work at a retail location and we all got a message about the launch.
1. We will start selling at 6pm and that is public knowledge. I tell that to customers all the time.
2. As for activation we can only guess as we have not heard anything yet. Although there have been confusing stuff posted on inside websites about it.
3. As for June 29 that is not a meeting for the iPhone in our store rather it is one about the services we offer and to become familiar with them.
Thanks!
This is the fact, Jack
Apple will be closing their stores in the afternoon around 3pm and will reopen at 6pm for the iPhone 3G launch. They want to lines to form for publicity and such.
Apple will be closing their stores in the afternoon around 3pm and will reopen at 6pm for the iPhone 3G launch. They want to lines to form for publicity and such.