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And when the cable companies lose enough tv customers, they'll jack up their internet rates.

Someone paying a little more for internet that they always use is better than paying a lot more for lots of tv content they will never use.
 
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Cut the cord!

1. call the cable company and cancel the tripple play, downgrading to internet only

2. Get an atenna to watch over the air digital tv stations

3. Get an apple TV box to buy or rent seasons of what every you want

4. Get a Hulu or Netflix account if you want a buffet approach

I do this and really get everything I want.

That's where I'm headed to get rid of my $227+ Comcast bill :eek:. I contacted CenturyLink and can get 100Mbps fibre dsl service for about $75/month (2yr contract price), which is less than what I would pay Comcast for only 50 Mbps and still need to also have tv or phone (I download/upload large video files for my business so I need the higher speed, but I won't pay $100/mo for their 1 gig internet). I bought an OTA antenna and it does a fine job on the local channels. I really hope the new TV has a channel package that includes my favorite non-local channels and some kind of dvr function, either by internal storage or in a cloud. I looked at Tablo and could use it with my Amazon Firestick but I really want everything on the TV and be done with it. Can't wait to hear about it in June and hopefully dumping Comcast!
 
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Verizon did it to me. Basic internet started $35 back in '06. It was recently raised to $90 for same basic internet service. I dropped them, picked up a combination pack (cable, internet, phone) for $168. Remember to call TWC at eleven months to renegotiate. Above all else, do not assume any cable/satellite company is your friend.

Yeah....and don't assume Apple is your friend either. I'm amazed how many people think that Apple is going to get into this game and somehow save them money.......

This is the same company that puts a premium price on everything.....don't think they are looking to save you a bunch of money. They are just positioning themselves as a middle man you like as opposed to the cable/satellite providers that many customers seem to hate. But at the end of the day, by the time most customers bundle up to what they want...I bet the costs are nearly identical.
 
Yeah....and don't assume Apple is your friend either. I'm amazed how many people think that Apple is going to get into this game and somehow save them money.......

This is the same company that puts a premium price on everything.....don't think they are looking to save you a bunch of money. They are just positioning themselves as a middle man you like as opposed to the cable/satellite providers that many customers seem to hate. But at the end of the day, by the time most customers bundle up to what they want...I bet the costs are nearly identical.

You could be right. OR, Apple might sell programming access as a loss leader to sell more devices, since devices are more their focus than services ;)
 
US only?

Yawn, Any such service would likly be USA only :(

Also Aples existing selection of TV serises is not that great, if they don't have the latest series of Archer then I'm not interested.
 
And when the cable companies lose enough tv customers, they'll jack up their internet rates.

Yep... they'll just move on to the next thing they can charge you for.

We've already seen it happen in the mobile industry. First it was minutes that determined how much you paid... then texting... then data.

Nowadays... minutes and texts have become so devalued that the only thing they have left to make money on is data.

Cable will eventually follow a similar course... all they'll have left is data.

And they're gonna charge a pretty penny for it!
 
I hate to pull Gene Munster here, because Time Warner's CEO is talking about streaming service as a TV product and not a television set.

But I think for Apple to succeed, it needs to sell a set top box as well as a television set. Before everyone here hits the reply button and flame the heck out of me, hear me out.

Walk into Best Buy, Costco, etc. Look at TVs that came out this year. You know what nearly every single one, including those priced under $200 have in common? They can all play Netflix, etc. out of the box. Most are running Android TV or ChromeCast OS.

While us Apple fans would still purchase set top box with these TVs, a vast majority won't.
And of all my devices I still use the Apple TV to watch my Hulu etc the tv's clunky and slow to use

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Our ISP's are about to destroy us with price hikes and throttling.

You are so correct sir. I'm glad someone else can see it coming
 
I think maybe this should be directed at BBCRumors.com, AFAIK :apple: charge folk to display content on ATV, and it's the channel responsible for writing app. Can you imagine the outrage of the licence fee player if the BBC were to splurge money to put iplayer to aid a small commercial platform? Apple don't do charity incase you haven't noticed, also would cannibalise their rentals from BBC worldwide, on the iTunes store.

Assuming :apple: launch an app store on ATV at WWDC along the lines of iPhone apps, then you may see it.
I have no idea if your assumption is correct. If it is, then I fully understand why its not there and would support the BBC for not agreeing to "Pay to Play". However, it would seem the model is flawed since it is in Apple interest to have an APP that every smart TV sold in the UK and every other competitive Box supports. BBC Iplayer would have no impact on the rentals on iTunes store since these are aimed at International users and Iplayer is IP restricted unless you go to the trouble of using a Proxy server or VPN type service.
 
I wonder how long these smart TVs will last because I keep hearing people want dumb TVs and smart boxes. I kind of see smart TVs like 3D; a passing fad.

I agree. Please leave my TV dumb, because there is not one producer that has been able to provide a good enough solution.

Smart TV's are usually underpowered and thus slow, have bad UI, suffer from bloatware, are not scalable for the lifetime of the TV and available apps are generally crap because they are for all intents and purposes free.

What I need is a small and cheap box that I can replace regularly (every two years or so), where I can install paid or free apps that are equally regularly updated. I also need access to the main content providers irrespective of the global region (start selling global licenses).
 
I guess any Apple TV (television/streaming) update will be USA only so its not really interesting for the rest of the world.

#stillwaitingforiTunesradio #stillwaitingforApplePay

I hear this all the time, so i am curious..... Do people in other countries watch American TV shows regularly? Don't you have your own networks and studios that create programming?

I ask because this deal, if it does happen, is with networks with US content. I would assume a separate deal would have to happen for other countries, no???
 
If true it's bound to be a US only thing. I don't know why they even bother to sell the AppleTV outside the US. It's completely useless here in the UK. They could give it away free and I still wouldn't bother with it.
 
At 125 a month for basic HD cable and internet when I watch 12 of those channels, I would love to cut the cord...

Cut the cord!

1. call the cable company and cancel the tripple play, downgrading to internet only

2. Get an atenna to watch over the air digital tv stations

3. Get an apple TV box to buy or rent seasons of what every you want

4. Get a Hulu or Netflix account if you want a buffet approach

I do this and really get everything I want.

1. Broadband only can still run $40-$100 depending on speed and how long one has been a customer.

2. Assuming one lives close enough to do so; many do not

3. These costs are starting to add up

4. Ok, by now one is pretty close to that original cable bill.

Cut the cord. I haven't had cable since I bought my house 5 years ago.
I stream Netflix, and have an Apple TV that I use for HBO NOW, and I also watch the news live though the Apple TV.
I may or may not keep HBO NOW, but in the meantime I pay for the Internet.
Which by the way is a bit over priced at $60 a month.
You need higher speeds to stream Netflix etc. Either way, my bill per month is a lot better than the cable subscribers I know. Times are changing folks!

I would gladly subscribe it if it offered an a la carte option. There's some channels that act more like clutter or bloatware than anything else. I'd love to just have access to the 10 I frequently watch.

Yeah....and don't assume Apple is your friend either. I'm amazed how many people think that Apple is going to get into this game and somehow save them money........

Our ISP's are about to destroy us with price hikes and throttling.

All of these are great comments. I actually started a thread last week to discuss this very topic. I think the "a la carte" service that eveyone wants could actually be cost prohibitive in the end.
 
Will streaming TV throttle down the available bandwidth for other uses in the home? I've never heard anyone address this issue.

Yes it will.

But, most other "uses" would not be affected unless your internet is already slow.

There will probably be people posting the very odd and rare applications that are bandwidth hogs, but streaming video is by far the most common, maybe downloading game/app updates after that, but not even close.

Streaming uses a lot of data too, so if you have a cap, you have to be careful. Although most ISPs in most areas don't currently have a cap on data.

After getting Netflix, my data usage went up like 40 times the following month. Now, 6 years later, it is closer to 100x more data used compared to my pre-Netflix months.
 
I will say again that until programme material improves exponentially this is all whistling in the wind. Even my precious BBC has been reduced to reality TV, more celebs than you could wave a flamethrower at, zero good comedy and drama and shallow news coverage and comment. TV is now a lost cause: only good radio exists for the intelligent audience.
 
So do you think the Smart TV manufactuers do not offer regular software updates plus individual App updates. You really should check into it a bit more.

Well... I have an older LG Smart tv... it hasn't seen an update for about 2 years now. TV Manufacturers change their technology out every couple years so its a burden to them to support old sets.
 
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