TiVo Reveals 'Next-Gen Platform' to Combine Cable and Streaming Content Across Multiple Devices

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    TiVo this morning announced a new "Next-Gen Platform" that aims to combine content from cable tv, streaming, DVR, and on-demand all in one place (via Engadget). The enterprise announcement is aimed at operators who might partner with TiVo on the platform, so the official launch of such a service is likely a ways off.

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    When it does launch, the Next-Gen Platform will deliver all of a user's content to "managed" set-top boxes powered by Linux and Android TV, as well as "unmanaged" devices like Apple TV and Amazon Fire TV. The OS-agnostic approach will let users access shows and movies from both cable providers and streaming services -- Netflix is used specifically in promo images -- on Apple TV, iPhone, MacBook, and more.

    This means that TiVo's platform isn't a new cord-cutting service of its own, but something that cable and streaming operators will have to choose to integrate into their existing services for customers to gain access.
    Specifically, operators will be able to integrate the platform on managed set-top boxes with TiVo for Linux and TiVo for Android TV. The company said this cloud-powered software will offer TiVo's personalized recommendations, voice commands, and the Next-Gen Platform's main hook of integration across other devices for a multi-screen experience.

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    The other parts of the platform include TiVo for Streamers and TiVo for Mobile, which will be apps that offer the same features and experience as the set-top boxes, but delivered to Apple TV, Fire TV, iPhone, Android, and more. For the smartphone app, TiVo said that it will be able to "support multiple use cases," from a standalone, cloud-enabled Internet Protocol television (IPTV) app separate from the user's set-top box, as well as a hybrid app that could be more of a companion experience to TiVo's big-screen apps.

    TiVo argues that the Next-Gen Platform will "help operators reduce churn, drive customer engagement, stay ahead of the competition and own the customer experience," but at this time no partners have been confirmed to support the future service. With CES starting next week on January 9, more information about TiVo's new platform is expected to be coming soon.

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  4. GaryMumford macrumors 6502

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    Sounds a bit like PLEX, but with added streaming services
     
  5. asdavis10 macrumors 6502

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    It's Apple's TV app but OS agnostic and not just for streaming services.
     
  6. Ray Brady macrumors 6502

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    It sounds to me like this is actually two things. A "managed" box would be a TiVo DVR that also acts as a streaming box, like an AppleTV. An "unmanaged" system would allow you to stream content from your cable service and/or DVR to a separate device like an AppleTV.
     
  7. ViDeOmAnCiNi macrumors member

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    I hope it's what I've been wanting for a long time. If I want to see a particular show/series/movie, I do not care which of my services it's on and I don't want to go "log into" that service or sub-service to find/watch it. I want a central location that will bring the media to my screen from whatever services I subscribe to (NF, Hulu, AMZ/Prime, etc) without me having to exit the central location, including streaming sources. It should auto log in to each service in necessary (from creds you provided during set up) and bring the media to the screen. All media access from a central location. That's the dream.
     
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    So basically an Apple TV?
     
  9. BWhaler macrumors 68030

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    I loved TiVo back in the day, and while I’m sure it has the best interface, it feels like the !ac is the 90s—better UI but an island unto itself which makes for an inferior value proposition.

    What’s worrisome about this announcement is two-fold. First, no one has signed up for it;one would think they pre-sold it to a few cable companies or streaming companies. Second, feels they are late to the game. Companies like Comcast want to own the experience and customer relationship, and there are tons of players from Apple to Google to Rome to Amazon playing in this space.

    I’m rooting for TiVo, but I suspect this will fail.
     
  10. rittchard macrumors 6502

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    Essentially, the loser who ATT hired to screw up DirectV engineering was "let go" and then weaseled his way into Tivo, so that he can now find some way to screw it up as well. This smells just like the BS he tried to peddle (and failed) at DirecTV/ATT before they dumped him. He must be really good at "something" to keep getting hired in these positions.
     
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    Not sure what the benefit is. I will stick with Apple TV and just add services there.
     
  12. ViDeOmAnCiNi macrumors member

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    No. Apple TV and most other OTT boxes still require you to go into each "app" (like NF, Hulu, AMZ/Prime, YT, DVR shows) and search for your media and then play it from the app. I want a central dashboard that is service agnostic and will auto search everywhere (all services, all streaming, all local drives/DVR/NAS) and then play the media directly from there without having to launch/login to other apps/services. Not centralized by service, but by media itself, regardless of the source.
     
  13. b11051973 macrumors 6502

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    So, it will only become a real thing if cable companies sign up for it. I think most likely is cable companies will just come up with their own platform. Especially the big ones, like Comcast, which most of the country have as their only option.
     
  14. PhoenixDown macrumors regular

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    If i can record cable tv shows and then play it on my apple TV, that would be very desirable. I don't even need all the other features. It would make Apple TV my one stop box and I can use other apps as needed.
     
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    So what the TV app on the Apple TV does? And also Siri?
     
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    This appears to be attempting to merge the best of both worlds. For the so-called cord cutters, it brings a variety of streaming services management together in a single interface, probably searchable across services and likely with a real, fully-functional DVR instead of the NOT fully-functional, virtual DVRs built into some streaming services.

    It's also accepting that if one wants the fullest live TV experience, the choice is still only the traditional sources of cable (or Satt) + maybe OTA antenna too, so it's integrating a cable option into the same box. Yes, we can argue that PS Vue, DirecTV Now, Sling, etc all cover this base but none of them bring key quality basics like Dolby Digital 5.1 and they all count against broadband caps (while cable service doesn't). Again the same DVR brings a fully-functional DVR to this side of things too.

    One central box- this TiVo box- manages all content, overcoming the need to rent a proprietary box from the cable company to attach to every TV. Instead each TV can be connected to this "hub" through an app, running on devices like :apple:TV and similar (equipment that many may already own).

    TiVo already has some "play anywhere" features, so all this content is probably streamable to mobile devices wherever you are.

    And it's all wrapped up in the TiVo UI goodness that TiVo users love.

    I'm not sure it's all of that but that's what I think I read in several articles about it.

    I've basically attempted to build something comparable via hodgepodge:
    • HDhomerun Prime (with Comcast cablecard) +
    • HDhomerun Extend (for locals) +
    • Channels App (for unified on-screen guide) +
    • Channels App DVR (for a traditional, fully-functional DVR).
    Multiple :apple:TVs around the house bring the same to all TVs. Net result: no Cable Box leases but cable service (so I get good + smoothly playing + consistent HD and DD5.1 without eating any broadband capacity). Via "triple play" offer, this is cheaper than sacrificing quality items like DD5.1 and trying to go with a streaming service alternative(s) to get the channels that I desire. Comcast's mobile app allows many channels to be streamed to mobile devices anywhere. All TVs have access to a fully-functional, real DVR with centralized storage (that I can expand to basically any size). Video stored doesn't have watch-by deadlines, etc.

    While I'm VERY HAPPY with this setup (for now), this TiVo platform appears to stretch that to integrating mainstream streaming services right into the same UI instead of having to hop app-to-app as I do now to also check what's on this other (steaming) service or that other (streaming) service.

    I don't think any of us quite have all that in any existing :apple:TV-based option. So if this is as it appears to me, it looks like it takes a meaningful step forward in a kind of "one service to rule them all" way. It's not quite "cord cutter" but one can't cut the cord and keep the fundamental quality we've been accustomed to for years. It appears to overcome the need to hop app-to-app and search within individual apps to find something. It almost certainly brings a full-featured, real & unified DVR. It gets rid of proprietary lease boxes attached to every TV. It should be "grandma proof" meaning TiVo easy to use instead of trying to teach grandma how to hop app-to-app, use this input for OTA locals vs this input for :apple:TV, etc.

    I think it's what I have now (minus OTA antenna integration) plus smooth integration of streaming services into the UI and a TiVo-class DVR and supporting features. If so, I'm interested.

    Weak point? Adoption would kill a lot of lease box revenue for cable companies. As such, I don't see them being much interested in backing this thing. And I think I read that TiVo is basically shopping this for exactly that.
     
  17. PhoenixDown macrumors regular

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    Thats my concern. I'd rather it just be like it is today where I pop in a cable card and it streams to say an Apple TV or Roku instaed of their mini
     
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    You haven’t used an AppleTV in awhile, have you? The TV app takes care of that. Netflix is the only app that’s still refusing to use the API that I use regularly.
     
  19. yojo056 macrumors newbie

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    I have thought for years that Apple should buy TiVo. Its an established brand with a faithful following and already does what its hoping the "TV" app will do.
     
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    We have used Tivo since nearly the beginning, and in general are a fan. On our current setup, which uses the legacy UI, you can Search for a title and it will find the results across our cable provider, plus streaming services we have authenticated through the Tivo box. Very handy to look for a movie, and see if it's available on xfinity, HBO, netflix, and amazon.
    Tivo recently changed it's UI, rather dramatically, and it's less than fully baked. Seemed like it was rushed to market. We don't use it yet, but I set up a new Tivo for my in-laws and they had the misfortune to have it installed.
     
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    Well, I'll be gobsmacked. I do not own an Apple TV, but I'll have to look into this. Anyone know if ATV will do DLNA sources as well?
     
  22. madgalaxy macrumors regular

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    This press release is directed at Operators rather than Consumers. When Rovi bought Tivo they were not shy to the fact they wanted Tivo's IP and rather than their hardware/consumer business. They can make more money licensing rather than peddling direct to consumers. Heck their lifetime service on the new Bolt Vox is $549!

    Personally I would love to see an ATV app announced at CES that would act as an extender to my Tivo Roamio w/Lifetime, but do not have high hopes...
     
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    In the UK, the cable operator uses TIVO software for their cable boxes, so I will probably be upgrading to one of these in future. Judging by the article, it seems TIVO is looking to have similar arrangements with US cable companies. The only stumbling block will be if some companies don’t put their app on the platform, as I am guessing Amazon won’t.
     

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