Tmobile Iphone 5 Wifi Calling

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  1. daghstdrummer macrumors member

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    I tried to set up wifi calling for my Iphone 5 w/ tmobile and cannot. Apparently 5C 5S 6 and 6+ can only do it . Strange because the 5 and 5C have the same hardware.

    Anyone else have this issue? Any work arounds?
     
  2. bsforever macrumors member

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    T-mobile likely leaned on Apple to exclude this feature from iPhone 5, there's no other conceivable reason really. Cynical move? Absolutely.
     
  3. Woochifer macrumors 6502a

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    The 5 and 5c use different cellular transceiver chips with more supported LTE bands for the 5c. But, wi-fi calling does not have extensive hardware requirements. From what I understand, this is T-Mobile's call as to which iPhone models allow for wi-fi calling.

    Unless there's something specific to the transceiver compatibility, I would guess that T-Mobile is only adding this to their "current" models, as they now tout 100% of the phones they currently carry for wi-fi calling. I don't know of any workarounds to get wi-fi calling for the iPhone 5.
     
  4. zorinlynx macrumors 601

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    What the hell would be T-Mobile's motivation to exclude a model from this?

    We're talking:

    A) Improved customer experience.
    B) Reduction in cellular bandwidth usage.

    Pretty much a win win for T-Mobile, the user, and Apple, all three.
     
  5. Woochifer macrumors 6502a

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    We'll probably find out more when AT&T activates wi-fi calling next year. If they add the feature to the iPhone 5, then we'll know for sure that it's not a hardware issue. And I would guess T-Mobile follows suit, and adds wi-fi calling to the iPhone 5.

    OTOH, how much does AT&T gain by adding wi-fi calling to a discontinued model whose users are now rolling through the two-year upgrade/replacement window?
     
  6. Am3r1ca16 macrumors 6502a

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    Guess because the iPhone 5c came after the original iPhone 5 and the iPhone 5 didn't support t-mobile at first
     
  7. bsforever macrumors member

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    To get iPhone 5 owners to upgrade to newer models - they appear more interested in that than A and B above. For what it's worth wifi calling on iPhone 5 worked all through the iOS8 betas.
     
  8. zorinlynx macrumors 601

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    Does T-Mobile even make much money from that? The cost if you use their financing thing is actually LESS than the non-contract price of the phone.
     
  9. Woochifer, Oct 1, 2014
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    Woochifer macrumors 6502a

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    T-Mobile only sold the iPhone 5 for about six months (and they had by far the lowest iPhone adoption rate among the four major US carriers), and most of the iPhone 5 units sold in the US did not support T-Mobile's primary LTE band. I can understand T-Mobile wanting to cut bait with the iPhone 5, because they sold a comparatively small number of iPhone 5's to begin with and most customers bringing used iPhone 5 units over to T-Mobile cannot access T-Mobile's LTE network in most places.

    And of course, there's the angle that they simply want to sell customers a new/"current" phone.

    Like I said, we might find out more when AT&T adds wi-fi calling next year. If AT&T supports the iPhone 5, then we'll know for sure that there's no technical limitation that limits wi-fi calling on the 5. If they don't, then it might be a technical issue on their end, or they just want customers to buy a new phone. And retroactive support for older phones has never seemed like much of a priority to the carriers.
     
  10. Woochifer macrumors 6502a

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    Forgot about wi-fi calling working on the beta versions! Now it will be interesting to see what AT&T does.

    I also think T-Mobile would rather not encourage people to bring iPhone 5's over from other carriers whose models did not support T-Mobile's primary LTE band. While the wi-fi calling improves the customer experience in one way, having no access to LTE in most areas would seem to negate that to some extent.
     

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