To 13" rMBP owners: 1920x1200?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by CARABAO, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. CARABAO macrumors member

    Jul 10, 2012
    Hi 13" rMBP owners, do anyone of you run / try to run your computer at 1920x1200? I know it's not in the stock resolution options, but I was just wondering if anyone has tried it for daily use. The stores in my area do not allow installing 3rd party apps - so I can't try it firsthand.

    Some questions:
    1) Have you tried running it in 1920x1200 (HiDPI or not)
    2) Is it usable?
    3) Does it leave any scaling artifacts / distortion? Using a non-Apple app for setting the resolution, I'd expect the scaling to be imperfect. But with the number of pixels of the display, does it show any distortion whatsoever?
    4) How does it perform at 1920x1200? Does it in anyway affect performance? Slowdowns, lag, heat?

    Those are my questions for now. I hope someone can shed light on this - I'm very curious on how it plays out.

  2. h25p macrumors newbie

    Jun 27, 2013
    HiDPI is not available for 1920x1200. The resolution itself is really small and the fonts look a little bit blurred (but just a little bit) because of the scaling. Performance is absolutely good in my opinion, no lag or anything else. In fact it may be faster than the 1680x1050 HiDPI resolution.
  3. MacModMachine macrumors 68020


    Apr 3, 2009
    I personally use 1920x1200 for my everyday resolution and i do not find it blurry and it looks sharp to me.

    i find it runs at a great speed with no issues.

  4. ayeying macrumors 601


    Dec 5, 2007
    Yay Area, CA
    Under OS X, It runs GREAT. You'll have to use SwitchResX or something to enable it. I ran 1920x1200 HiDPI for a while with no problems.

    However, under Windows 7, it looks blurry, crappy without HiDPI. It actually gave me a headache from it. 1680x1050 Non HiDPI is the best, at least for me, under Windows.
  5. CARABAO thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 10, 2012
    Hey guys, thank you for your responses! It's nice to know it can handle 1920x1200 with no problem. Now I'm just curious on how it looks like from a 13" screen.


    Great! What software are you using? So is it comparable to the sharpness of the 15" rMBP running 1920x1200?

    I hope I'm not asking much, but can you take a photo (not a screenshot) of the laptop screen at 1920x1200? I wanna see if it's workable.. Much appreciated :)

  6. Muscle Master macrumors 6502a

    Muscle Master

    Oct 15, 2010
    What he said.. Run it daily, no issues
  7. Modernape macrumors regular

    Jun 21, 2010
    Why on earth would you want your fonts so damn small?? I really don't see the point.
  8. Mikael macrumors regular

    Aug 4, 2005
    Gothenburg, Sweden
    For the same reason you normally buy a high-res screen, i.e. to be able to view more information?
  9. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

    May 1, 2012
    I just switched to 1920x1200 to try it out. It's surprisingly usable, if I had to have a big spreadsheet open or something I would toggle to this resolution. But not for anything graphical since it's not as sharp as any HiDPI mode.

    Most of the time I'm just running in native retina resolution (1280x800) with a hotkey toggle to 1680x1050 if I need some immediate screen real estate. But native is the most comfortable for web, email, Aperture, etc.
  10. MajkJaro macrumors member

    Apr 2, 2013
  11. aeroxy macrumors newbie

    Mar 26, 2014
    Hi, I have noticed that for a Macbook Pro Retina 13" Display, 1920X1200 HiDPI is not an option under all of these softwares:

    SwitchResX, Retina DisplayMenu, QuickRes

    Instead, there is an option for 1920X1080 HiDPI. However, there are black bars on the top and bottom of the display when using such mode.

    Were you running non-HiDPI (known as scaling mode)?

  12. 5to1 macrumors 6502

    Mar 9, 2008
    I never use it at 1280x800 (late 2013 13"). Minimum is 1680x1050 (HiDPI), I only really use this as its the best balance between single page browsing (browser occupying a space) and real estate on my main multi window/App work space. I often use it at 1080/1200/native without issue. Given the pixel density on the display IMO its more then capable of scaling to higher resolutions without compromising text/UI clarity significantly (as opposed to using a small font on a low density display).

    If we could set resolution independently for each space, my main desktop would stay at native. As this would solve my problem where a space occupied by safari leads to the web page being too narrow.
  13. yimyim macrumors newbie

    Mar 21, 2014

    I almost always use 1920x1200.
    The retina resolutions have alot of lag and I only use them sometimes when showing images.
    I find it actually more useable than the retina resolutions.
    Of course, it does not look as nice as retina resolutions but the loss in image quality is not so bad from a normal viewing distance and the performance increase is good.

    My advice, wait about 1 year to buy a "retina" notebook. Till then the performance issues should be resolved. Otherwise there are fine non-retina options perhaps.
  14. ayeying macrumors 601


    Dec 5, 2007
    Yay Area, CA
    No. You have to add the 1920x1200 mode.
  15. aeroxy macrumors newbie

    Mar 26, 2014
    Thanks for replying!

    Can you write an instruction on adding 1920X1200 HiDPI mode to the system? If not, can you do a screen shot on how we can accomplish this task?

    I have experiment with adding 1920X1200 HiDPI mode from SwitchResX, and it only allows me to add non-HiDPI mode (scaling).

    Do I need to override system files? If so, where do I modify these files?
  16. ayeying macrumors 601


    Dec 5, 2007
    Yay Area, CA
    I don't have the 13" Retina MacBook Pro anymore. All you need to do is add 3840x2400 in SwitchResX. This automatically enables 1920x1200 HiDPI
  17. aeroxy macrumors newbie

    Mar 26, 2014
    Thanks! I will try! :)
  18. aeroxy macrumors newbie

    Mar 26, 2014
    It worked. You are the man!
  19. Orr macrumors 6502


    Oct 8, 2013
    Crazy that anyone would want to have to peer at something that miniature. I have good vision and for me, running at 1440x900 gives a nice combination of screen size and clarity. Although the vast majority of the time my laptop serves as my desktop at home running dual 23" widescreen 1080 monitors. Anything smaller than 1440x900 on a 13" screen makes my eyes hurt from having to squint. If you want to have all that real estate on your laptop, the 15" would be a much more compelling choice.
  20. 5to1, Mar 28, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2014

    5to1 macrumors 6502

    Mar 9, 2008
    I don't know about others but I certainly don't have some sort of sado masachistic fetish which involves torturing my eyes :D

    I imagine most people would quickly lower the resolution if they found it uncomfortable to use. And we're obviously not running at those res to look at large portions of empty desktop, so 1440x900 doesn't cut it for a lot of us.

    Also a 15" has a significantly larger footprint and that becomes an issue across two perpendicular planes when you flip it open to use it. So if I'm comfortable using the 13" at native, how can that possibly be a more compelling choice (other then the possibility of even more DTR, but then you'd accuse me of torturing my eyes again :D)?
  21. Commy1 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 25, 2013
    Absolutely useable. Gives a little more restate to work with, everything looks sharp and scales well. Doesn't up my temps and certainly doesn't create any lag.
  22. duffyanneal macrumors 6502a


    Feb 5, 2008
    I've been running @ 2560x1600 for the past few weeks. I have Chrome zoomed to 110% but everything else is fine. I like having lots of windows open. :D
  23. MrT-Man macrumors regular

    Jan 22, 2008
    Have had my Retina 13 for just under a week. 1680x1050 seems to be my favorite most of the time, but 1920x1200 works fine. No problems with either resolution in Windows, using VMWare Fusion 6.

    1440x900 is too big for me, so I'm certainly glad I didn't get an Air!

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