To all eMac owners : Apple told me all eMacs defective

[manitoubalck]

That's what I like about my PC

I can choose which motherboad I want, which Graphics card I want, How much RAM I want, how many CD drives I want, etc... And best of all, I can build it myself and mod it how I see fit. There is no company forcing their opinion apon me. Telling me what is BEST for ME. I am free to mack my own decisions about what I need in a computer.

 

[MoodMinefield]

Re: That's what I like about my PC

Originally posted by manitoubalck
I can choose which motherboad I want, which Graphics card I want, How much RAM I want, how many CD drives I want, etc... And best of all, I can build it myself and mod it how I see fit. There is no company forcing their opinion apon me. Telling me what is BEST for ME. I am free to mack my own decisions about what I need in a computer.

Lol still running a horrid OS.

 

[janey]

Okay, lets disect your idiocy here shall we?
sure lets do the same for yours.
1. Common sense? Common sense is for the product you buy to work that way it was AVERTISED.
Hmm...where did Apple say you can listen to music at full blast without having any problems? When did any manufacturer say that? Oh and for future reference its ADVERTISED not avertised.
2. Listening to my music too loud? The people at apple said it might happen at 60% volume, is that too loud for you? and even so, WHY put speakers in your product that you can't use? why not limit their power if they know if it goes past a certain point youre SCREWED.
hell, why are you even using those speakers? I got klipsch promedia speakers with my PC, so i can listen to music without having a fit because the speakers that came with it are soooo crappy. The average person also does not listen to music at 60% volume constantly. More like 30-40, even lower than that when its quiet, and higher when it's loud. Besides, all speakers are liek that, they start going all weird once you hit a certain *very loud* volume.
3. I certainly COULD buy some external speakers, and its not like I can't afford it, its the principle of the thing, why should apple make you buy a 3rd part product in order for theirs to work properly? Apple did try and fix it, by replacing my screen for SOME reason and calling me up telling me that its still doing the same thing.
Um well that's your problem. If you want good sound, get good external speakers. Same goes to ANY FRIGGIN COMPUTER BE IT FROM APPLE OR FROM DELL OR FROM ALIENWARE OR SONY AND HP.
I cannot STAND these mac zealots who defend apple EVEN when its clearly wrong, to their dying breath! It IS just a corporation, and as we all know, corporations are not perfect.
first of all i'm not a mac zealot. i use windows too, as well as linux and freebsd and palm os
Hey, I dont have a problem with what apple did. I just cant stand bad speakers so I always use external speakers-good ones- with the computers whenever i can. You know...even the other manufacturers ship their computers with crummy speakers.
Apple comes up with the WORST "solutions" for its own incompetence, and as long as there are people like YOU out there, they will see no reason to change and get their act together.
riiight. well at least they make an effort to please their consumers somewhat with the pro speakers. please stop bitching.
OH and before you tell us any more, go and study your English. Please. You'll be doing us all, and even yourself, a big big favor. Even the title of the topic is gramatically incorrect.

 

[janey]

Re: That's what I like about my PC

Originally posted by manitoubalck
I can choose which motherboad I want, which Graphics card I want, How much RAM I want, how many CD drives I want, etc... And best of all, I can build it myself and mod it how I see fit. There is no company forcing their opinion apon me. Telling me what is BEST for ME. I am free to mack my own decisions about what I need in a computer.

you know i like that too
too bad we cant build our own laptops from scratch though. What a shame.
Only thing I dont like about that is i cant run OS X on it. And I love OS X a LOT.

 

[Rower_CPU]

First and only warning:

Further personal attacks will result in thread closure.

 

[MoodMinefield]

OH well, if it comes to it, class action lawsuit here we come, for all the actual eMac OWNERS having this problem.

and ubergeek, my english is just fine FABULOUS actually, but i see no reason in trying to prove that to some stranger geek i dont even know

 

[jamesatzones]

I have sold over 100 of these units since their intro and have never heard of any problems except for the first "orginal batch" which had some CRT's buring out. Apple was quick to produce a fix. There is no way Apple would allow an issue like this to go on, where as I cannot say you have not had any issues I can say that your situation is not the norm...

My suggestion, take it to the place you bought it or deal with Apple and AppleCare and have them completely replace the eMac. I am rather confident in the eMac, I bought one for my own mother and am in the process of selling 70 units to a Mac based business. Sorry bro, sounds like you got a lemon...

 

[janey]

Originally posted by MoodMinefield
OH well, if it comes to it, class action lawsuit here we come, for all the actual eMac OWNERS having this problem.

and ubergeek, my english is just fine FABULOUS actually, but i see no reason in trying to prove that to some stranger geek i dont even know

Okay i get your point. I'm also sorry that I said that.
All the schools i ever went to all had eMacs and iMacs and were satisfied.
Okay yeah so sue me for not having an eMac. For the same price i'd rather have an iMac, but for the same price as a high end iMac I'd rather get a powerbook or a power mac-which is exactly what i did.
You know, maybe I should sue Microsoft for making such a crummy OS that chews up data. I know a lot of people who are dissatisfied with Windows.
Look if you're really that tired with your eMac having those problems sell it on ebay and get another Mac or get a PC. No need to make such a fuss.

 

[manitoubalck]

Re: That's what I like about my PC

Originally posted by MoodMinefield
Lol still running a horrid OS.

Guess what I can even "Choose" which operating system I use, I can Even Choose to buy a mac. But their prices are through the roof and their performance and lacklustre after sales service (due to their business being too diverse) makes them uncompetitive in “The Free World”

 

[MoodMinefield]

I have a powermac & powerbook, i just wanted the eMac for my room and its been SUCH a disappointment lol

Oh well, i will find out tomorrow from apple executive relations if they are going to just refund my money or give me an iMac or something in its place!

BTW : manitoubalck you make me laugh!

 

[manitoubalck]

Tomorrow!

I get my results today, because Time is money, And if apple knew that they would have given you a new system then and there and transferred all your files across to the new computer.

 

[janey]

Originally posted by MoodMinefield
I have a powermac & powerbook, i just wanted the eMac for my room and its been SUCH a disappointment lol

Oh well, i will find out tomorrow from apple executive relations if they are going to just refund my money or give me an iMac or something in its place!

well that's a good thing. at least they're gonna do something about it, and they're not gonna just sit there doing nothing.
If you already have a pmac and pbook why get an eMac? why not an iMac? I'd think that most power(whatever) users would prefer the iMac over the eMac.

 

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by jamesatzones
My suggestion, take it to the place you bought it or deal with Apple and AppleCare and have them completely replace the eMac. ...sounds like you got a lemon...

I would agree. You certainly have rights as a consumer, and if this is as bad as you say it is, it is certainly different from most eMac owners' experiences. You may need to work with both Apple Corporate and the retail store. But again I implore you, do not go in wielding lawsuits as some sort of torch, it will leave you with a bad result-- corporations do not handle legal threats in the manner in which most individuals would predict.

If you do choose to pursue this through legal channels, be sure to collect whatever evidence you can, so you can prove your side of the story. Do not discuss legal remedies to the situation to Apple without first taking on a lawyer and discussing the initial confrontation with him. A lawyer can advise you as to exactly what and what not to say to preserve the legal integrity of your position.

pnw

 

[Daveman Deluxe]

MoodMinefield:

While your point has a certain amount of validity about it, you're not likely to get anywhere here making blanket statements such as "Apple told me all eMacs defective" when you yourself know that not to be the case (at least two owners of eMacs have told you they do not have this problem). Apple needs to provide you with a brand new eMac and settle the score that way. I don't think a lawsuit will get you anywhere because manufacturing defects happen in all product lines. Furthermore, the support boards for Apple are a poor way to determine the proportion of people that have a defective product, since people come there specifically to discuss defective products.

Everybody else:

Give it up already. MoodMinefield clearly has some misguided opinions, but that's no reason to roundly disregard his/her entire post. Honestly, I agree with the assertion that the CRT should not get wavy when turned up past a certain level. That's poor design--a closed system should never cause its own problems. That said, I saw nothing to indicate that MoodMinefield's problem only appears when the volume is turned up--it sounds as if it's an all-the-time thing to me. Give up the venom and give the poor guy a chance, eh?

Edit: Between the time I clicked "post reply" and the time I finished the post, the last several (and much cooler) posts came through. I'd delete it, but I think it's a good general guideline regardless. If the mods disagree, feel free to remove my post.

 

[janey]

california has a psuedo-computer lemon law. so you get a completely new replacement if apple has to fix it more than three times.
its not specifically for computers, its for warranties on items worth more than $25. if you read http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/ch50.html , it might have like the specifics. but under law the company has to give you a new replacement if they have to repair it at least twice (usually three). Yeah. hehe

 

[pinto32]

Every CRT I've ever had has experianced some distortion when I played music (or anything else) at extremely high volumes.....

 

[janey]

Originally posted by pinto32
Every CRT I've ever had has experianced some distortion when I played music (or anything else) at extremely high volumes.....

hmm that would explain my problem with my first-and last-CRT.
I always thought it was because i shook the table, or it was a little earthquake (living 20 minutes away from Northridge, CA ). Heh. Thank god LCDs dont have that problem

 

[QCassidy352]

Re: You people...

Originally posted by MoodMinefield
these people who say "it works as long as u don't turn it up too high"...umm, that actually means it ISNT working. This is ridiculous!

have you ever had a speaker system (not a computer accessory)? do you know what happens when you turn the volume all the way up? the speakers blow out shortly after the horrible distortion sets in. You want to sue Bose as well?

Look, as has been explained, this is an inherent problem with CRTs and speakers beneath them. I disagree with other posters: I really don't think you have a lemon here. I think another emac will be the same.

An emac is an all-in-one with a CRT and speakers directly below the screen. This is gonna happen, and it's not apple's fault, or a bad product, or a lemon. That's the reality of CRTs and speakers. The fact that it's an all-in-one design means you can't even move the speakers a few inches away.

Do what you want, but as far as I'm concerned, what you're doing is akin to complaining that your Bose stereo is defective because the speakers can distort if you turn it all the way up.

 

[Powerbook G5]

My car is defective, too...when I hit 130 mph, it starts veering to the left...I should probably call Ford and threaten a lawsuit since they should know that when we drive 130 mph, we don't want our cars to veer to the left...or maybe they should replace it with a GT40 since it's better and shouldn't veer to the left like my car does.

 

[LimeLite]

Re: Tomorrow!

Originally posted by manitoubalck
I get my results today, because Time is money, And if apple knew that they would have given you a new system then and there and transferred all your files across to the new computer.

Ok, this is off-topic, but manitoubalck...do you attach that AMD64 picture *every* time you make a post? haha, wtf?

 

[benixau]

did you know that at a theatre i worked at (i am a sound engineer) whenever we played a star trek piece (great for room acoustics testing) it would cause the coffee mugs in the board room to bounce along the desks due to the bass coming from the two 2kW Subwoofers.
Does this mean that the theatre was built wrong? No - it means that i was pushing the system to its limits.
Push a system to its limits and you will see what happens. Things are not built to be at their limit for extended periods.
Get and iMac and some soundsticks.

 

[rainman::|:|]

Re: Re: Tomorrow!

Originally posted by LimeLite
Ok, this is off-topic, but manitoubalck...do you attach that AMD64 picture *every* time you make a post? haha, wtf?

i think he thinks it's his avatar.

pnw

 

[benixau]

OffT: paul, how many posts does he have? can you make it his avatar for him? just that he obvoiusly wants it to be so. thanx. If you cant can arn?

 

[manitoubalck]

That would be nice

Yeah I attach that AMD 64 Logo to all my posts, That would be great if you could make it my "avatar" as you call it. Sorry if you don't like the quote it's something that came into my mind while responding on this thread.

I first heard of the AMD 64 (then Claw and Sledge Hammer) in early 2001, and have been following its development ever since. I see many of similarities with it and the G5 not only in concept but also in design (HyperTransport, etc)

[mod. edit - You were PMed about the images yesterday. Cut it out.]

 

[kjwebb]

Re: Re: That's what I like about my PC

Originally posted by manitoubalck
Guess what I can even "Choose" which operating system I use, I can Even Choose to buy a mac. But their prices are through the roof and their performance and lacklustre after sales service (due to their business being too diverse) makes them uncompetitive in “The Free World”

Sorry, but with Mac' s you can choose if you want a version of Mac OS or a version of Linux or Unix that works on the PowerPC processor.


And with this topic, MoodMinfield, I agre with the others and think that you should either get external speakers (sound quallity goes up) or get another eMac or get an iMac.

Law suits can cause more trouble sometimes for the person who takes them out. Take for example when there was those McDonald lawsuits in England. The people ended up losing.