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iPhone 11 Pro To Set Up iPhone 11 Pro Max as new or from iCloud restore???
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Oh it's definitely nerdy, haha, but I like it. It's likely a myth, but I do also feel like the new phone runs better on a fresh build. After all the beta mess, I like to clear it out (in my mind at least).
I’ve always restored from backup without any problems, but since your iCloud account holds almost all the same information, it is not as big a distinction as it used to be. This year however, I have decided to set up as new because my backup is configured for iOS 13.1 beta 3. Rather than try to downgrade my backup to the 13.0 GM, or load the brand new iPhone with a beta iOS on day one just to use the backup, I’ll set up as new. It will also give me a chance to clear out unused apps.
That wouldn't be true for me. I have quite a few passwords for various public and semi-public networks that I could never remember. I could probably just ask for the password again at each location, but that would be annoying.
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As long as your iTunes backup is encrypted, there should be no difference between a local iTunes backup and an iCloud backup.
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That's definitely a good reason to start as new, but it's a very different idea than setting up as new because you want to get rid of obsolete or crufty settings, downloads, app data, etc. You could get roughly the same benefit by using Settings to offload infrequently used apps.
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Quoting your post just because it's good hook into the Camera Roll discussion. Here's a question. If you use the iPhone migration tool that became available in 12.4, does anyone know how that will treat the Camera Roll? I'm wondering if the migration tool operates differently on that than restoring an iTunes or iCloud backup.
But I have like a gabillion photos
15,229 to be exact.
Not to mention Apple Watch data I’m not fond of losing.
Encrypted Backup it is!
I think that's right. Health, Activity and Workout info is backup up but if you don't restore it won't be restored. There's no iCloud sync for that data, like there is for a lot of the other data on the phone.
There is iCloud sync for that data, and if you Health enabled to sync in iCloud, then you will see all historical activity (rings, workouts, awards, etc) and health data during a clean / new setup of an iPhone.
Oh yes, 100%. I've been using the watch since day 1 and have A LOT of data, workouts, achievements, etc. Was always nervous about losing it all. But this past summer when I had to replace my phone, I tried setting up as new to see how much would come back just from iCloud syncing. It took a while (maybe overnight), but everything synced back. I had been curious about this for a long time, quite happy that it does work.
I'm finding Apple's KB pages somewhat confusing. It looks like Health data is (1) included in an iCloud backup but also, as a separate matter, (2) synced to iCloud. So, you could restore it as part of restoring a complete backup, but it looks like you could just let it sync, like Notes, Contacts, etc.
Even if that's right, I think I'd make either an encrypted iTunes backup or an iCloud backup just before I handed back or wiped my phone...
Even if that's right, I think I'd make either an encrypted iTunes backup or an iCloud backup just before I handed back or wiped my phone...
Oh at a minimum I would do an iCloud backup before replacing my phone. Ideally I would also do an encrypted iTunes backup as well.
But if the case comes up that you want to try a clean setup without restoring from backup, its nice that Health & Activity are now also synced in iCloud.