"To XP or not to XP that is the question"

Discussion in 'iMac' started by Honey Bee, Mar 13, 2011.

  1. Honey Bee macrumors newbie

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    I am looking for advice on whether I should load windows xp on to my imac (Boot camp style) . I bought my first mac a few months ago and I was advised to jump into the deep end and fully embrace OS X . So I did and I never want to go back to PCs. Now the question is, before I give my sister my old PC should I load the xp disc onto my mac. I don't feel I will use it much (if ever) but should I take the opportunity before I hand the disc over.
    Regards Greg.
     
  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    When I made the switch to Mac, I was determined to never install Windows on it. That forced me to learn Mac OS X and to find Mac apps to do everything I needed, rather than going back to Windows to perform tasks. As a result, I learned my way around the Mac much quicker than I would have otherwise. I've never found a need for Windows since the switch, and I'm glad to be rid of it.

    You can use a site like http://alternativeto.net/software to find Mac-compatible equivalents to Windows apps you may be familiar with. Also, you'll find lots of help here in the forum as you make your transition. This will help you get started:
     
  3. mjsmke macrumors 6502a

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    Ive never owned windows. I've used it...and crashed it everytime. Ive never needed windows so never felt the need to learn how to use it.
     
  4. AppleNewton macrumors 68000

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    if you have no use for it, dont waste your time to be honest.

    If you do alot of PC gaming just get Windows 7...WAY smoother and better than XP.
    Besides if its an OEM disc that came exclusive to a machine it wont probably work in the Mac and two registered copies running at once on any given time or phones home will cancel one or the other out.
     
  5. ZilogZ80 macrumors 6502a

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    As much as I would love there to be native OSX versions of all the apps I need, unfortunately there are some niche (and some not so niche!) areas where it is Windows or nothing. If you are in a similar situation, both Parallels and Fusion actually work really well & are very convenient. I think that virtual machines probably use a disproportionate amount of systems resources when you are just running 1 or 2 simple programs though. What I actually do in my office is to have an old XP box which just runs 1 specific program which I control from my Mac using VNC.
     
  6. John T macrumors 68020

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    If you must have Windows - I assume for playing games. Why not buy a dedicated PC just for this platform - they're cheap enough. Then you won't have to infect your Mac. :)
     
  7. kingofwizard macrumors newbie

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    windows is absolutely needed for me...

    I don't know if you have noticed the issue of the campatability of windows office produced ppt with that produced by mac. for me, i have suffered, and this is a pain in the ass!

    my tutor asked me to do a presentation of my article infront of many famouse...that brings me the nightmaire...i did it on mac with keynote, and the final work was so perfect, i just simply copied my work in the flashdrive, and never anticipated the coming disaster.the day for my presentation, i plugged the flashdrive on the pc of the conference room, i clicked the file, oh la la la la la....office powerpoit 2007 made the great piece of art totally a mess~~~no more stucture, loss of fonts, picture and text seprate from each other a thousand miles away...i was frightened and pissed off...instead, my tutor kept silent with a red face...luckily i brought my mbp with me that day...and i had to apologise for wasting a lot of valuable time...

    so this is true...as windows takes up a great part in professinal usage in certain circumstances, like in the conference, concerning the campatability issue, better with the windows installed...it's a pity that sometimes, a great work of mac couldn't get a chance of what it deserved...
     
  8. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Microsoft Office for Mac doesn't have such compatibility problems. I use Office apps daily on my Mac and I've never had compatibility issues. No Windows needed.
     
  9. skier777 macrumors 6502

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    If you ever find you really need it, Windows 7 is now the way to go. I use it on my mac all of the time (and it is just as stable at OSX), but if you haven't had a use for it yet, you probably never will.
     
  10. kingofwizard macrumors newbie

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    trust me...i have tried that office for mac...issue stays always but much better... i have tried many mac produced ppt on a pc, there always have been a problem of loss of fonts ,though less the cases of stucture mess but it does happen with the picture test pages ... it requires relatively long time for pc to open the file...especially when their are plenty of diagrams and pictures....


    i find also even between the different pc versions,office has always the same issue...

    compared with office for mac...keynote offers many useful templates...but in my case , this is a waste of ressources... personlly i just bootcamped xp with office 2003 and do the ugly and stupid ppt for peace...

    i think if your everyday uses have nothing to do with the campatibility issue...windows is not needed...mac is more helpful by bring more creativity. but if your case in a little similar as mine and you don't use very often windows dorminated softwares like office, so i suggest you install a vmc on your mac,bootcamp and run a complete windows is not nessesary.only if you game...
     
  11. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Naturally, you need to make sure the same fonts are on the Mac and the PC. If that's the case, fonts shouldn't be a problem. If you have structure issues, make sure there's not a difference in default or selected printers, specifically margins and page sizes. Both of these are things to check when transferring documents between computers, regardless of the OS.
     
  12. kingofwizard macrumors newbie

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    for the word file, times new romain always...but they do look different in two os...my solution is to transform the word file into pdf...peace...or just print it.
    as for the powerpoit...maybe it has been a great cauchemar for me... i choose the prudence.don't wanna make my tutor pissed off again a 64 years old man...i do admet that mac is more helpful and creative during working, i like the mac works far more than pc,it's just pity that i couldn't use it for powerpoit, for directly open it on the dell pc of the conference room without afterworks, even for my soutiens(debat), such important event, we must evit any anticipated problems and try our best to make it perfect...maybe i was too careful...
     
  13. CHSeifert macrumors 6502

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    Typical Apple fanboy mentality ;)

    I've used windows for 20 years and have only seen a handful of bluescreens and not one in the last 5 years time.

    I however now own an iPhone 4, iPad 1, iPad 2, iMac 27 Ultimate and soon a MacBook Air 13 Ultimate - so will embrace OSx, but have never had trouble with windows in my life.

    To the OP: Get Win 7 and dump XP is my advice !

    OSx is still more smooth, but Win 7 is the best windows EVER !


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    Claus - TapaTalk on my Ip4
     
  14. Stan Mikulenka macrumors 6502

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    Hi Seifert,
    please don't use quotes like "iMac 27 Ultimate and soon a MacBook Air 13 Ultimate", this 'Ultimates' don't exist (only in your mind)...
     
  15. khmeroldiez macrumors newbie

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    If you can, I'd say why not? Probably better to go with Windows 7, however.
     
  16. CHSeifert macrumors 6502

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    Hi Mr. Mikulenka,

    Please accept that people in here name the topmodel of all the Mac computers the ULTIMATE :)

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    Claus - TapaTalk on my Ip4
     
  17. alan111 macrumors regular

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    Stick with OSX.
    But IF you absolutely need Windows, Windows 7 runs beautifully, almost like it was made for a mac. Skip XP and go for Win7.
     
  18. kingofwizard macrumors newbie

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    yeah! your words remind me of the recommendation for windows vista, when vista lanced in os market,the best machine for running vista is macbook pro et imac...even microsoft knows exactely that, mac's top! so running a windows 7 on a mac,c'est du bonheure!
     
  19. Tonepoet, Mar 15, 2011
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    I'm not sure about Ireland but what you're talking about, with installing Windows for yourself then transferring the disc and the computer isn't legal under U.S. jurisdiction. I'd look into that to see if you don't have similar laws, since I doubt it's unlikely

    As for whether Windows is worthwhile, I'd usually say if you need to ask, you probably won't need it. you can often find roughly equivalent software on the mac platform. Most of the major brand names develop versions for OSX, even Microsoft! Even if something you need specifically doesn't work, you can often find a substitute.

    If you want something you know for a fact you can't find a substitute of the program in question, a situation that's most common with mission critical peripherals/software or computer games that don't stand a chance in the whole wide world of seeing a port, that's probably where buying a copy of Windows comes in.

    While I've never really gotten it to work, I hear in most cases Wine (or its commercial cousin CrossOver) can help you play many windows programs (but not drivers) directly in OSX with little overhead.

    Assuming assuming somebody's going to have a Mac anyway, I don't see the sense in this. Two computers cost more than one. One may not have the budget for this and even if one did, it'd make just as much sense to put the money towards buying a more powerful mac and a cheap copy of Windows to enjoy increased productivity on the OSX side of things as well. The steps between different macintosh models isn't more than $500 and Home Premium only costs $120. Also the step between the lowest end mac in the MBP and iMac lines to the next is only $300 dollars, so going two steps up with Windows is only $920. You don't get much better than the sub 1000 dollar price range with a self built dedicated gaming rig. Even if you were to go the Mac Mini+dedicated gaming rig route, I don't see why you wouldn't consider buying a second tier 27" imac instead, unless upgradability for the gaming machine was a concern or you wanted a guest machine. (The iMacs are dangerously near refresh time according to the buyer's guide, so let's place aside direct spec comparisons for now.)

    Also having everything on one device also saves space, which can be convenient for a variety of reasons. You might not have the space for two roughly equivalent desktop setups in the home, while lugging around one laptop, even if it's fairly large is surely less cumbersome than lugging around two smaller ones.

    Also concerning an iMac in particular, a lot of the value is in the less cumbersome space saving design and high quality monitor, which can't be utilized with a secondary P.C. to my knowledge.
     
  20. mjsmke macrumors 6502a

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    Lol, Maybe, but i don't like all Apple products. I'm not a fan of the iPads or iPhones.

    Ive tried Windows many times but it always crashes with me. Maybe i'm just expecting it to be as quick as OSX and having too high expectations.
     

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