Today confirms that Apple has total spite for mini owners at this point

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by icanhazapple, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. icanhazapple macrumors 6502

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    The lack of quad core makes my blood boil. Under-clock a i7 QC Haswell chip. Problem solved.

    People who want QC want the threads anyway, not the speed.
     
  2. Thermonuclear macrumors 6502

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    Not spite; rather, contempt

    No quad core = No sale
     
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  4. scottsjack macrumors 68000

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    Just like for the Mac Pro tower users, Apple just didn't give a sheet about their wants or needs.
     
  5. jtara macrumors 65816

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    Apple can't tell Intel what to make.

    They would have had to have used the old chip and had two motherboard designs, perhaps refreshing the existing quad-core.

    That's assuming they could get assurance from Intel that they could still buy the chips in quantity.

    But, yea, it's disappointing. Lucky me, I have a 2012 i7 Mini.

    I have to say I was caught unaware, but I suppose any industry observer would have known this, given the current Intel CPU lineup. You can get 4 cores in a desktop chip, but that can't package that in the Mini.

    On the other hand, I was hoping for a Mini refresh, but not expecting it. I'd expected Apple to wait for the next chip generation.
     
  6. markyr17 macrumors 65816

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    Apple makes the computers.

    Intel makes the processors.

    Apple sources the motherboards and internal parts from many different sources.

    Intel doesn't make the motherboards. Apple simply chose to put the lower CPU's in the Mac mini. Your post sounds like there aren't other CPU's that could have been used.

    Just understand and know, that it's not Intel's fault, but Apple's fault - alone.

    Again, no. They simply CHOSE not to put the quad core chips into the Mac mini. It's not some sort of thing that wasn't possible or the parts weren't available. Don't be ridiculous.
     
  7. RoastingPig macrumors 68000

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    apple has never cared for broke people. :D buy a mac pro
     
  8. grandM macrumors 6502a

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    the mini i7 2012 is still for sale, so be fast...
     
  9. jtara macrumors 65816

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    Where did I say that Intel makes the motherboards? They make the processor chips.

    Information on the main 2014 Mini thread suggested that Intel does not offer a suitable quad-core i7 Haswell mobile processor. They did in the previous generation, Ivy Bridge (used in the 2012 Mini) and are expected to in Broadwell (next generation, late this year).

    However, I'm not sure now that that's correct. In fact, looking over the Haswell offerings on Wikipedia (which may not be either complete or accurate...) they do offer mobile i7 Haswell processors (in the mobile performance range) with 4 cores. However, they come with Iris Pro graphics, not Iris. Perhaps these exceeded either cost or thermal requirements.

    It looks like this is the chip they are using:

    http://ark.intel.com/products/75992
     
  10. wiredup72 macrumors regular

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    ehh, not spite IMO. Indifference. And that's worse. They completely take us for granted.
    OR, it is because we are probably the most likely group to build a hackintosh, and this is our punishment.
     
  11. Micky Do macrumors 68000

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    Stop whinging.

    The range available is more than adequate for typical Mac Mini users. If you don't see what you want, get a Mac Pro. Problem solved.
     
  12. Zellio macrumors 65816

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    It's Tim Cook's Apple. Steve Jobs made interesting new products. Tim Cook moved Apple manufacturing overseas.
     
  13. Micky Do macrumors 68000

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    Nationalistic codswallop.

    As with so many products (including the All American icon, Harley Davidson), Apple products are made up of components sources from many countries, and assembled in another.

    As I recall, under Steve Jobs assembly of all Apple products moved outside the USA. Under Tim Cook assembly of the Mac Pro returned to the USA.
     
  14. Tough Guy macrumors regular

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    There's something wrong with being nationalistic now?

    Who doesn't care about their surroundings? Do these people bother to clean their bedrooms or do they just lie around in filth, covered in insects and rodents?
     
  15. Oracle1729 macrumors 6502a

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    Steve Jobs made interesting new products and turned the Apple name into the most valuable brand in the world.

    Timmy is cashing in on Apple's brand value to make piles of money of crap. But he is spending the brand to do it. You can only sell garbage for so long before the public wakes up.
     
  16. Zellio macrumors 65816

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    Apple product production was moved offshore because Tim Cook convinced Steve Jobs to do so.

    Tim Cook moved EVERYTHING off shore, and you congratulate him for moving one product?

    And apparently my point went straight over your Thailand hating head (Since you hate nationalism). Steve Jobs had a vision. Tim Cook is a Wall Street CEO. He's trying to maximize profits fully while coasting on Jobs ideas. He's Apple's Steve Ballmer.
     
  17. dirtylilhobo macrumors newbie

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    It is a bit disconcerting to witness the progress of my Mac-Mini originating in China. Too bad we can't do the manufacturing work here in the US. But, labor and material costs would probably drive the cost to an excess.

    Anchorage, AK, United States 10/16/2014 3:12 P.M. Departure Scan
    10/16/2014 12:44 P.M. Arrival Scan
    Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong 10/16/2014 7:46 P.M. Departure Scan
    Shenzhen, China 10/13/2014 2:30 P.M. Departure Scan
    10/13/2014 2:25 P.M. Export Scan
    10/13/2014 2:25 P.M. Origin Scan
    China 10/13/2014 10:40 P.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
     
  18. Micky Do macrumors 68000

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    Nationalism sucks.

    I happen to work in (a highly nationalistic) Thailand at the moment. It is the source of some components used in Apple products, but not me.

    I have lived and worked long term in four countries, am a national of three, and carry passports for two. One is Euro and a partial source of my genes. The other is Asia-Pacific, where I happen to have been born.

    You could say I am a multinational, just like Apple and many other companies in these globalised days.

    Steve Jobs founded Apple along with a couple of others, but he died a few years ago. Get over it; move on.
     
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  20. mmomega macrumors demi-god

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    The level of whining here is staggering along with the conspiracy theories that somehow Tim Cook or Apple is singling out users.

    This is what is offered. Don't like it, complain to the source and/or go buy a different product.

    It's also quite amazing at the sheer number of members we have that seem to be semi to professional video and photography editors working on Mac Mini's who now are at the gates with pitchforks and torches with boiling blood, vowing to never buy another Mac product and so on and so forth because the cards we aren't dealt are not the ones we wanted.
    So we result to saying a dead man would not allow this but you know what? Steve is gone, he is not coming back, no person on this internet forum knew what he thought or what he would or would not allow.

    Yes, the Mac Mini has 2 Cores. Yes firewire is gone. No there is no built in CD drive anymore and it isn't coming back. Yes you have on-chip graphics.
    Wishful thinking and rumors won't change it, that's it. Today was the day, here's what they gave us. Buy it or don't buy it.
     
  21. johngwheeler macrumors 6502

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    Easy tiger. There's a difference between being patriotic and nationalistic. The latter has a tendency towards bigotry and small-mindedness. As for your second sentence - where did that come from? Medication time!
     
  22. rrl macrumors 6502

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    Give me the whiners over the Apple apologists any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Apple has had plenty of time and plenty of mobile quad core i7/5200 chips to choose from. Here they are:

    Screen Shot 2014-10-16 at 11.11.39 PM.png

    But you go ahead and keep apologizing.
     
  23. Ridley macrumors regular

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    I pasted this in another thread. Yes the new CPU is slower, and that is crazy after waiting two years. And I would have LOVED iris pro 5200 instead of the 5100. However I'm stoked because I have three monitors to drive and i can retire my triplehead2go. All things considered I'll probably go with the i5. At least we know and can stop waiting! And with this I can play basic steam games with my friends.
     
  24. mattspace macrumors 6502

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    How do you know that the new mini can drive 3 monitors?
     
  25. FantieMu macrumors newbie

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    Only a STUPID person would buy that

    :mad:, I say :mad:!
    I hope only few will buy this unit, a total rip-off! I accept that an baseline units will be an i5, but an upgrade of dual core i7. TOTALLY AN :apple:RIP-OFF!
     

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