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So you're gonna start encouraging this guy to do something that will make the guy lose his job? You seriously need to take a step back and take a look at your life. It's just a damn phone.

Why shouldn't a job require you to be ethical? Sell something on it's own merits not by lying about the product you're selling.

If you're not happy with the service complain about it. It's the only way things will change. It might be just a phone. But by speaking up you are saying you're not going to put up with a company lying to sell you a product.

It might just be a sales job but that suddenly means someone doesn't have to be responsible for what they do at their job? What their actions mean to the company they work for? Seriously, you need to step back and rethink things. You clearly aren't getting what I'm saying.

Basically.. WHY SHOULDN'T HE LOSE HIS JOB IF HE'S LYING? Have you just gotten so used to being lied to that it is now simply "OK" to do it?
 
I went to the Verizon store in Monterey and performed speed tests. The 3G service is 1180-1500kbps on 3GS. The 3G service on Verizon Droid is 650-900kbps. Both my 3GS and the Droid had full bars.
 
is this really what goes on in these forums? Sounds like some kids measuring their D's to inflate their egos. Get a clue, love what you love, but it doesn't change anything about who you actually are. Iphone? Dope.... Droid? Dope... Who gives a shyt
 
I don't blame you for telling the Verizon person off. I went in there with my sons today to purchase my new Storm and because I still had 4 days left on my contract they would not do anything, also I found out that the monthly insurance went up in price nearly double, then to boot the cost of the Deductable went from $50 to $89 and you are only allowed two replacements in a 2 year period after that you are done.

The other problem I had was I was speaking with the rep in regards to the Storm if I did not like it and she basically said I had to pay a $35 restocking fee even if I returned the phone to purchase another phone, what BS this is.

I then called AT&T and advised them I need to switch over my two sons lines and my mothers so as to reduce my Verizon costs, they were not only helpful they allowed me to change my number move my sons lines and new phones in all, and they waived the $36.00 fees. What a difference dealing with AT&T who appreciates my business, Verizon has just gotten so into themselves that it was worth paying the ETF on 2 lines.

So far I have been with AT&T for 6 months and I have never had an issue when calling customer service, and my wireless service has been near perfect.

Thank You AT&T you won a loyal customer back after years with Verizon


Sorry Verizon you guys have just lost an 8 year old Customer and I will never come back, not with phones like the iPhone and Cool Blackberry's on AT&T also my sons love their new phones and great service.


Signed a Very Pissed off Verizon Customer

AT&T put the :) back in my Wireless Experience ;)
 
I think the fact that the OP hasn't been back in the thread and that it has swelled to four pages says a lot about the situation.
 
Sales people work off commission. They do whatever it takes to make the sale, such as lying and kissing butt. It is their livelihood. They win some, and lose some. Sounds like another profession, huh? Politicians.
 
Why shouldn't a job require you to be ethical? Sell something on it's own merits not by lying about the product you're selling.

If you're not happy with the service complain about it. It's the only way things will change. It might be just a phone. But by speaking up you are saying you're not going to put up with a company lying to sell you a product.

It might just be a sales job but that suddenly means someone doesn't have to be responsible for what they do at their job? What their actions mean to the company they work for? Seriously, you need to step back and rethink things. You clearly aren't getting what I'm saying.

Basically.. WHY SHOULDN'T HE LOSE HIS JOB IF HE'S LYING? Have you just gotten so used to being lied to that it is now simply "OK" to do it?
phones are serious business

Anyone who walks into a store where the salespeople get commission for selling is going to get the same experience. The moral of the story is to do some research before spending your money.
 
I told the employee, "Excuse me, how is it faster when all of the speed tests say otherwise? How is it more unique? And the apps? Last I checked 100,000 apps using a simplistic method with easy payment (gift cards can be done) beats 14,000 any day. I had all intentions to buy a Motorola Droid today, but you really know how to turn off a customer." Then I said to the customer, "If you want a real comparison, I'll tell you the pros and cons of each."

Anyways, I took the customer outside and now they are buying a little phone called the iPhone from a company who doesn't need to put down other products in order to sell. ;)

Wow trolling IRL

Let me put it to you this way OP, you are no better than what Kanye did on stage

Even if you might be right, its an ****** move
 
phones are serious business

Anyone who walks into a store where the salespeople get commission for selling is going to get the same experience. The moral of the story is to do some research before spending your money.

Sure. But you also have to realize that this is a pretty expensive phone to have. Minimum cost of service is just under $1700 for the two year contract. Plus the cost of the phone (From $99-299). So between $1800 and $2000 over the course of two years. That isn't exactly cheap. So while it isn't "serious business" it certainly is to some people. What isn't serious to you very well could be to someone else.

My point stretches much further than just "phones." It's the general idea that a salesman should be helping you. Not conning you or lying to you so that your idea of a product is based on false claims. Keep that in mind.

As an employee of a company, especially one that deals with the customers or potential customers, you are the face people see when they talk to the company. That means they should be ethical. Otherwise the perception of the company suffers.

Take for example what's happening on this forum right now. Because of past experiences and encounters with people from various companies you have formed opinions. For better or worse. Isn't it in a company's best interest to be thought of in a positive light than a negative one?

Wouldn't you for example be happy if the company went out of it's way to make things easier for you? You're having difficulty with something, something is broken, whatever. Isn't your opinion of the company better when they help you? Or let's say they can't help, isn't your opinion on the company better when they admit they can't and have done everything they can?

This flame war that is happening between Verizon and AT&T is a prime example. For the foreseeable future I won't buy a Verizon product. Why? Because of the stupid tactics they're pulling in their commercials. Same reason I refuse to buy Head-On "Apply directly to the forehead." Not because it simply doesn't work, but because of the obnoxious commercial.

Maybe the general attitude that Verizon has towards iPhone users and AT&T is the reason Verizon salesmen are lying or giving false information about both the Droid and the iPhone/AT&T. When a company takes such a stance it is pretty clear to me that I want nothing to do with that company. You succeed by being better, not by belittling your competition, spreading lies and false accusations.

Face it. Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile. The sooner they realize that what they actually are is in fact just a data pipe for people's phones the better off we'll be. When it comes down to providing a SERVICE for customers as opposed to a red state vs blue state knock-off in terms of commercials. This general black vs white, red vs blue, microsoft vs apple, bullcrap needs to end. No one service/device is going to be best for everyone. Again, you succeed by being better, not by belittling the competition. You treat your customers better, you provide them with valuable service that lets them do things, you gain mindshare and marketshare comes with it.
 
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