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Hmm ...
... not adequate SATA-III to SATA-II fall-back you call 'market leading'???
... having NO Mac OS X FW-update-utiliy you call 'market leading'???
... having NO boot from burned ISO-image and update firmware you call 'market leading'???

man: we are living in the 11th year for the 21st century!!!

I'm not sure if you are into cars much be the OCZ Vertex 3 is comparable to a new Ferarri. Its wickedly fast, looks damn sexy and will occasionally burst into flames.

You sound more like the Toyota Camry kind of guy. He wants a car that just barely cool enough to appeal to the mass market. It will also never breakdown or catch on fire.

These drives are using cutting edge technology. Stuff that even Intel and the other industry giants like Samsung can't even come close to matching performance wise, much less beating. Are there going to be some problems along the way? ya, sometimes. So, if thats not your thing, no sweat. Just don't complain here and expect a lot of sympathy from me. You installed it in a 4 year old computer, not me. Why would OCZ prep the world's fastest SSD for a computer that can't come close to handling it? Makes *no* sense to me.

Anyway, I'm not trying to ruffle your feathers. You seem like the kind of guy who can handle an honest answer, even when its not one you like. So, thats my point of view on the Vertex line. I love'em but its cool if you don't. Honestly, you will probably be a lot happier with Intel if you are looking for that level of support. Just don't expect the them to match OCZ's performance for a little while yet.
 
I'm not sure if you are into cars much be the OCZ Vertex 3 is comparable to a new Ferarri. Its wickedly fast, looks damn sexy and will occasionally burst into flames.

You sound more like the Toyota Camry kind of guy. He wants a car that just barely cool enough to appeal to the mass market. It will also never breakdown or catch on fire.

These drives are using cutting edge technology. Stuff that even Intel and the other industry giants like Samsung can't even come close to matching performance wise, much less beating. Are there going to be some problems along the way? ya, sometimes. So, if thats not your thing, no sweat. Just don't complain here and expect a lot of sympathy from me. You installed it in a 4 year old computer, not me. Why would OCZ prep the world's fastest SSD for a computer that can't come close to handling it? Makes *no* sense to me.

Anyway, I'm not trying to ruffle your feathers. You seem like the kind of guy who can handle an honest answer, even when its not one you like. So, thats my point of view on the Vertex line. I love'em but its cool if you don't. Honestly, you will probably be a lot happier with Intel if you are looking for that level of support. Just don't expect the them to match OCZ's performance for a little while yet
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Well - I am not so good at cars, but:
a modern very high speed train capable of running at 300 km/h on special very high speed track will still be able to run 200 km/h on normal high speed tracks and not slowed down to 100 km/h slow track speed on the high speed tracks.

computerworldwise:
plugging a USB-3 device in an USB-2 port will give me USB-2 speed, not only USB-1.1 speed ... and I presume that I am completely right to expect this performance.
 
Could it be this:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/720024/

or is the OP's machine the wrong generation for that problem?

thanks for the link (what a long long thread, man! :) )
the linked thread though refers to the mid-2009 modell (when the 13" unibody late MB was 'uplabeld' to MBPro 13"), the modell including the SD-card slot (which I do not have).

according to this posting [which was linked on page 25 of you above linked thread ;) ] the late 2008 unibody modell supports SATA-II / 3 Gigabit speed:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/664252/

or at least: supported ... perhaps a firmware/EFI-update from Apple took it away??? (as on the mid-2009 modells)

so therefore in theory my late 2008 should be able to do SATA-II, no?
 
have you tried to update to the latest firmware 2.06? Check this link http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...cBook-Pro-Late-2008-and-Vertex-3-240GB/page2&

found that thread also, but thanks anyway.
comments of success on solving the issue there are inconsistent. :(

my Vertex 3 FW is 2.02. I tried to update to FW 2.06 last night but until now no success in my setting: I had taken the Vertex 3 of the MacBook and connected it to my WinXPPro TabletPC through an external SATA-2-USB-HDD bay ... and although Windows recognized the SSD as Vertex 3 the update 'toolbox' from OCZ did not recognize it. :(

OCZ does not provide a native Mac OS X firmware updater for their drives! :(
 
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Is your ssd firmware upto date?
 
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daneoni said:
Have u done an SMC reset?

Also getting the Vertex 3 for a non SATA 3 interface is just a bad idea it simply won't perform as well because they need the S3 interface. I'd suggest a Vertex 2 or any other SATA2 Sandforce (or Intel) drive.

It's not a bad idea if you can afford it. Futureproofing. All hdd in 2011 models are sata 2... Bad idea by Apple ?
 
found that thread also, but thanks anyway.
comments of success on solving the issue there are inconsistent. :(

my Vertex 3 FW is 2.02. I tried to update to FW 2.06 last night but until now no success in my setting: I had taken the Vertex 3 of the MacBook and connected it to my WinXPPro TabletPC through an external SATA-2-USB-HDD bay ... and although Windows recognized the SSD as Vertex 3 the update 'toolbox' from OCZ did not recognize it. :(

OCZ does not provide a native Mac OS X firmware updater for their drives! :(

guess might have to install your Vertex 3 as secondary drive in Windows PC and flash it there.
 
Maybe the ocz tool is only scanning the SATA ports thus not finding your usb connected drive. Better find a extra SATA port... don't worry about a encasing for the flashing.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
 
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It's not a bad idea if you can afford it. Futureproofing. All hdd in 2011 models are sata 2... Bad idea by Apple ?

Thanks for moral support! :)
 
guess might have to install your Vertex 3 as secondary drive in Windows PC and flash it there.

Well: my only Windoze PC is a 2004 Toshiba M200 WinXP Tablet PC ...
... no secondary serial port for me!




I fear I will have to do it 'the rough tour' booting some Linux from DVD/CD and then running the update from an external USB-drive while the original SSD is in the Macbook. :confused:
 
Maybe the ocz tool is only scanning the SATA ports thus not finding your usb connected drive. Better find a extra SATA port... don't worry about a encasing for the flashing.

OCZ-Support in the german OCZ-forum just confirmed: Toolbox, their update utility, only recognized the SSD on SATA-ports. :(


edit: they just added: *internal* SATA-ports
 
oh how soon people forget. Those macbook pros had many problems sata chipsets. They would only show 3gb speed with an apple drive. This problem made me return mine and opt for an older model that showed 3gbs speed. Its the mac, not the drive.
 
I am happy to report that after a very time consuming process of FW update (through the rough way: Linux) eventually I managed to update the FW of my OCZ Vertex3 240 GB SSD from 2.02 to 2.06 ...
... and now I get:
Link Speed = 3.0 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed = 3.0 Gigabit

:):):)

though originally the folks in the OCZ forum immediately told me: look at apples place ... but at the end their firmware issue solved the problem. :)

the system feels m u c h faster actually! ;)


thx for all inputs!!!
SpaceDoc
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Please post a step by step of what you did because i want to update mine too.

Edit: Actually never mind. The Linux method i forgot doesn't work with 2011 MBPs. Glad it worked out for you in the end.
 
I am happy to report that after a very time consuming process of FW update (through the rough way: Linux) eventually I managed to update the FW of my OCZ Vertex3 240 GB SSD from 2.02 to 2.06 ...
... and now I get:
Link Speed = 3.0 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed = 3.0 Gigabit

:):):)

though originally the folks in the OCZ forum immediately told me: look at apples place ... but at the end their firmware issue solved the problem. :)

the system feels m u c h faster actually! ;)


thx for all inputs!!!
SpaceDoc
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Congrats on that. Now I also plan to get a Vertex 3 for my late 2008 Macbook pro.
 
OCZ Vertex 3 FW Update successfull with Linux

Please post a step by step of what you did because i want to update mine too.

Edit: Actually never mind. The Linux method i forgot doesn't work with 2011 MBPs. Glad it worked out for you in the end.

Hi,

sorry for only posting the 'how to' now, but I was travelling for an extended weekend ;-), without access to the Internet. Of course I will share my research with pleasure.

1. I downloaded PCLinuxOS (found through OCZ-forum.de-Site / although only their 'alternative technique' it proved to be the only one working):
http://spout.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/pclinuxos/pclinuxos/live-cd/pclinuxos-kde-2010.12.iso

2. Burn the ISO to a CD-ROM. I used the 'Burn'-Software.

3. download the Linux-Update-Tool from OCZ:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...CZ-SandForce-Linux-based-firmware-update-tool

Version 1.15 worked for me! (the version 1.13 from the German OCZ-Website did not work!, so go for v1.15)

4. Unzip the Linux-Update-Tool and put it on an USB-Stick.

5. Put burned CD-ROM in MacBook Unibody Late 2008 ... and shut down.
Reboot with the key 'c' pressed when switching on computer to boot from CD-ROM.

6. Put USB-Stick in USB-Port [you will have to mount it. by clicking on it in KDE it should work]

7. Go to "Terminal"

8. 'su' - become super-user for 'root'. password for root is 'root'! :)

9. some directory juggling should start: you need to locate the file 'fwupd' on the USB-stick. in the current version I had I used the 'change directory' command "cd .." to go out of directories until the folder '/media/'. Then I did 'cd /linux32' and then 'cd /fwupd' (that's where the file 'fwupd' resides).

10. execute the following command: "./fwupd /dev/sda"
do not forget to put a 'blank' between the command and "/dev/..."


So this should work. Of course I can not take any responsability for any damage (though I think that it's safe ;-) ) ... so do your back-up of your data before!!! [I used Carbon Copy Cloner for this, though I did not need my back-up because everything worked flawless at the end ;)]


So I hope I could help you all! ;) Enjoy a high-speed MacBook! :)
SpaceDoc
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I assume u need a working LAN connection for this to work?
 
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I assume u need a working LAN connection for this to work?
Correct! It's because the fwupd-program is dynamically fetching the necessary files from the server from OCZ. they say it's because using this technique the user always get's the latest version without having to download it him/herself. (though I don't think that this is the only motivation :( )

[this was also the problem with the flawy version 1.13 of their utility: error message I received was 'can't connect to network'. I asume some link did not work anymore.]
 
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