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Took my rMBP back today

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Mongol

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Jun 12, 2012
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Had it for a little over a week.

Mainly, I just still could not get over the 15" form factor, and the fact that it's a non upgradable 2k laptop.

I found that using it in daily life would mean I *had* to use a laptop messenger bag, whereas a 11" or 13" with a sleeve would fit into a small non specialized backpack.

Things i enjoyed about it:
1. the screen
2. the general speed; really nice for running a droid simulator for android development, which takes forever to load on older laptops
3. the speakers, these were frigging amazing.

One thing of note, when they did the inspection, they found that there was moisture apparently inside the machine. I definitely did not spill on it, the guy said it was probably sucked in from the fans.

I should note that I live in a very wet city - Seattle. I was shocked to find that out, because I definitely did not use it near any obvious water.

I'm just gonna wait for the 13" retina.
 
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Mongol said:
Had it for a little over a week.

Mainly, I just still could not get over the 15" form factor, and the fact that it's a non upgradable 2k laptop.

I found that using it in daily life would mean I *had* to use a laptop messenger bag, whereas a 11" or 13" with a sleeve would fit into a small non specialized backpack.

One thing of note, when they did the inspection, they found that there was moisture apparently inside the machine. I definitely did not spill on it, the guy said it was probably sucked in from the fans.

I should note that I live in a very wet city - Seattle. I was shocked to find that out, because I definitely did not use it near any obvious water.

I'm just gonna wait for the 13" retina.
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Good luck...hope you find one that fits you better....
 
Mongol said:
Had it for a little over a week.

Mainly, I just still could not get over the 15" form factor, and the fact that it's a non upgradable 2k laptop.

I found that using it in daily life would mean I *had* to use a laptop messenger bag, whereas a 11" or 13" with a sleeve would fit into a small non specialized backpack.

One thing of note, when they did the inspection, they found that there was moisture apparently inside the machine. I definitely did not spill on it, the guy said it was probably sucked in from the fans.

I should note that I live in a very wet city - Seattle. I was shocked to find that out, because I definitely did not use it near any obvious water.

I'm just gonna wait for the 13" retina.
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Interesting why somebody would be inspecting inside the computer. Hmmmm.
 
rikbrown said:
Isn't the only thing that's less upgradable than a normal MBP the RAM?
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The SSD is also non upgradable as far as I'm concerned, because I might be moving to a different part of the world where it may be difficult to receive shipment from places like OWC. It would need to be an official Apple upgrade, or the component would need to be widely available for me to consider it truly upgradable.

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kdoug said:
Interesting why somebody would be inspecting inside the computer. Hmmmm.
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The moisture apparently caused some of the diagnostics to turn up weird results.

I had zero problem with using it however, and was shocked that they found moisture inside.
 
Mongol said:
The SSD is also non upgradable as far as I'm concerned, because I might be moving to a different part of the world where it may be difficult to receive shipment from places like OWC. It would need to be an official Apple upgrade, or the component would need to be widely available for me to consider it truly upgradable.

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The moisture apparently caused some of the diagnostics to turn up weird results.

I had zero problem with using it however, and was shocked that they found moisture inside.
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So because you MIGHT move to some remote jungle to save the rain forest and not upgrade the SSD when an online company that ships worldwide.... You took it back?

Now that my friends is pure entertainment. :)
 
I'm with you: 15" is too large for me. I travel light and the extra two inches makes a big difference when it comes to carry-on bags.

I'm very happy with my early 2011 base model 13" MBP. Adding Power Support anti-glare film took care of the glassy display, which is otherwise a deal-killer for me. Some people put-down the relatively low-res display but it doesn't bother me in the least. The money I saved (I got it for $900) went toward a high-end 24" NEC external display. Since I also snagged a very good discount on the NEC my total cost was $1459.

Recently refurbs of my MBP model have been showing up for $799. That's a great deal. :cool:
 
bossxii said:
So because you MIGHT move to some remote jungle to save the rain forest and not upgrade the SSD when an online company that ships worldwide.... You took it back?

Now that my friends is pure entertainment. :)
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that's not the main or the only reason. main reason is the size.

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Mojo1 said:
I'm with you: 15" is too large for me. I travel light and the extra two inches makes a big difference when it comes to carry-on bags.

I'm very happy with my early 2011 base model 13" MBP. Adding Power Support anti-glare film took care of the glassy display, which is otherwise a deal-killer for me. Some people put-down the relatively low-res display but it doesn't bother me in the least. The money I saved (I got it for $900) went toward a high-end 24" NEC external display. Since I also snagged a very good discount on the NEC my total cost was $1459.

Recently refurbs of my MBP model have been showing up for $799. That's a great deal. :cool:
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The 13" air is a great machine. It has a longer battery life than the Retina for sure.

I just can't justify getting this year's, because to get the spec I want, it would be $1800 or so, and my old 11" laptop still works, and i would want to upgrade to the 13" retina when it comes out anyways.
 
Sounds like you should not have bought in the first place! Everything that you mention as problematic could've been determined beforehand. I feel like people are abusing this 14 day return period! At least there should be a large and quick supply of refurbs?
 
aaronw1986 said:
Sounds like you should not have bought in the first place! Everything that you mention as problematic could've been determined beforehand. I feel like people are abusing this 14 day return period!
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There is no way I could have known what having a 15" laptop was like in daily life without actually having one.

My old/current laptop is 11".

Because of how Apple prices their products, I think they are well equipped to deal with returns, because when you charged twice as much as your competitors, people will return it for the smallest issues.
 
aaronw1986 said:
Sounds like you should not have bought in the first place! Everything that you mention as problematic could've been determined beforehand. I feel like people are abusing this 14 day return period! At least there should be a large and quick supply of refurbs?
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On the bright side....more stock on the "refurbished" inventory. :D
 
Mongol said:
Had it for a little over a week.

Mainly, I just still could not get over the 15" form factor, and the fact that it's a non upgradable 2k laptop.

I found that using it in daily life would mean I *had* to use a laptop messenger bag, whereas a 11" or 13" with a sleeve would fit into a small non specialized backpack.

Things i enjoyed about it:
1. the screen
2. the general speed; really nice for running a droid simulator for android development, which takes forever to load on older laptops
3. the speakers, these were frigging amazing.

One thing of note, when they did the inspection, they found that there was moisture apparently inside the machine. I definitely did not spill on it, the guy said it was probably sucked in from the fans.

I should note that I live in a very wet city - Seattle. I was shocked to find that out, because I definitely did not use it near any obvious water.

I'm just gonna wait for the 13" retina.
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interesting
i live in seattle also
 
congratulations on this courageous move!

it takes courage to admit a mistake - something that most buyer-posters in this forum often lack.

i hope your return encourages more first-generation impulse buyers to do likewise. this is a good way to give apple direct feedback from the tech mass crowd.
 
Adidas Addict said:
I don't want this guys, he's obviously liquid damaged it.
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No, because otherwise, they would not have taken it back.

I didn't see what the guy was talking about, so I have no idea how bad it was.

but it was definitely not anything related to a spill or using it near a wet surface.

it may very well be a design flaw in the fans and thermal system that in a humid environment like Seattle, there is condensation.

For instance, I used it a lot on my carpet, and I live on the first floor. So the rMBP fans suck air from underneath, it may very well be drawing up moisture from the floor.
 
Mongol said:
No, because otherwise, they would not have taken it back.

I didn't see what the guy was talking about, so I have no idea how bad it was.

but it was definitely not anything related to a spill or using it near a wet surface.

it may very well be a design flaw in the fans and thermal system that in a humid environment like Seattle, there is condensation.

For instance, I used it a lot on my carpet, and I live on the first floor. So the rMBP fans suck air from underneath, it may very well be drawing up moisture from the floor.
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It's not just the humid weather. If you use a notebook near dusty place (carpet for example), it is not a best thing to do..
 
Mongol said:
There is no way I could have known what having a 15" laptop was like in daily life without actually having one. My old/current laptop is 11".
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That's a pretty massive jump in context. I can imagine a 15" seems unmanageable if you're used to 11"... just like I moved from a 17" Dell XPS that weighs 8+ pounds and the MBPr feels like I could throw it in my back pocket. :)
 
kdoug said:
Interesting why somebody would be inspecting inside the computer. Hmmmm.
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@ the local genius bar, I've seen the GeBar people remove their glasses and almost touch their noses to the computer to check for scratches so they could declare damage or abuse and refuse a warranty repair.

OTOH, I've witnessed the same saying "I'll only do this once," and do a non-diagnostic swap on a phone.

(A wonderful bunch of people to deal with.)
 
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