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Allen_Wentz said:
Read some more. Specifically about the physics of having RAM on-chip physically very close to processing and with less memory controller issues in the way.
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i get it. their designs offer benefits. but these conceots have been around forever - look at with processor caches. its just pushing that further by moving to more and more integrated systems into the die. good and bad.

again this isnt a 'cant be done' its a manufacturing, cost choice, efficiencies trade off.

x86 designs that arent unified can still outperform these designs, so to think its 'required' to achieve high performance is silly.

its all trade offs. and consumers dont win with the trade offs that were made. im not saying what theyve done is shi7, just saying its sh!tty.
 
erihp said:
i get it. their designs offer benefits. but these conceots have been around forever - look at with processor caches. its just pushing that further by moving to more and more integrated systems into the die. good and bad.

again this isnt a 'cant be done' its a manufacturing, cost choice, efficiencies trade off.

x86 designs that arent unified can still outperform these designs, so to think its 'required' to achieve high performance is silly.

its all trade offs. and consumers dont win with the trade offs that were made. im not saying what theyve done is shi7, just saying its sh!tty.
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Actually, "x86 designs that arent unified can" not "still outperform these designs" when we consider heat efficiency. Personally I think Apple's more efficient design direction appropriate and I am willing to pay for the trade offs you reference.
 
Allen_Wentz said:
Actually, "x86 designs that arent unified can" not "still outperform these designs" when we consider heat efficiency. Personally I think Apple's more efficient design direction appropriate and I am willing to pay for the trade offs you reference.
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i said efficiency was a benefit in the prior sentence. and you seemed to ignore where i specifically said -performance- in the statement you're 'correcting'.

stop cherry picking. im speaking in facts and being fair to both sides. you are trying to make some point that you still havent.

i own apple products too man. doesnt mean i like the anti consumerism anti repair ability anti upgradability, and scrapping of perfectly good hardware because a single component fails. do you?

its ok to recognize and agree with tradeoffs on both sides. not sure why you are so defensive.
 
It is rather obvious.
There are numerous NUC style computers out there.
If you want Mac OS, none of them have it.
 
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"Individuals working on the new device apparently say that it is "essentially an iPad Pro in a small box."

Apple is said to have tested ‌Mac mini‌ models with at least three USB-C ports on the back, as well as an area for the power cable and an HDMI port."
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And reading a bit between the lines, we can gather that they're cutting the ethernet port and USB-A ports for this one.

What's "essentially an iPad Pro in a small box" is not some mid-tier or high-end Mac stuffed inside a slim and compact mini enclosure.

This will be the smallest, cheapest and lowest spec'ed Mac ever. Like a MacBook Air with three USB-C ports, power input, and a HDMI port.

No fan, no vents, no USB-A, no ethernet. Like a displayless M4 iPad Pro running macOS. Starting at <$599.
 
ApplesAreSweet&Sour said:
And reading a bit between the lines, we can gather that they're cutting the ethernet port and USB-A ports for this one.

What's "essentially an iPad Pro in a small box" is not some mid-tier or high-end Mac stuffed inside a slim and compact mini enclosure.

This will be the smallest, cheapest and lowest spec'ed Mac ever. Like a MacBook Air with three USB-C ports, power input, and a HDMI port.

No fan, no vents, no USB-A, no ethernet. Like a displayless M4 iPad Pro running macOS. Starting at <$599.
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if only the software was 'allowed' to be installed on the ipad.
 
Allen_Wentz said:
Actually, "x86 designs that arent unified can" not "still outperform these designs" when we consider heat efficiency. Personally I think Apple's more efficient design direction appropriate and I am willing to pay for the trade offs you reference.
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Looks like RAM chips are "unified" at the left of the M chip, side by side.
 
phrehdd said:
whats your take on the video facet? Does ATI or NVidia compete well with the video portion of M unified?
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the RTX series blows away anything the M can do with its video hardware. It's not even close.
 
Mackan said:
I suspect that 8 GB of RAM will continue to be standard for the entry model. If you want to use Apple Intelligence, perhaps for writing code, they expect you to buy the middle tier model, and pay more. I hope I am wrong, but this is just how Apple has treated their customer base for a long time.
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We will see, but if the memory is in the Ipad and not used, why would they put it in the MAc mini and not use it? Unless they want to grab money out of people., Oh stupid me, yes, they do want to grab money out of people
 
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