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Kind of ironic to delay iPad OS because of some feature that Windows and even Mac have had for what 40+ years? Requiring the M chips to even run it is even worse, I'm just baffled why it's that much more CPU intensive than what an early ARM windows tablet easily ran 10 years ago. iPad OS is so far behind today's desktop OS' and they keep trying to shoehorn stuff like this into it just to convince consumers they still need a Macbook.
 
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Kind of ironic to delay iPad OS because of some feature that Windows and even Mac have had for what 40+ years? Requiring the M chips to even run it is even worse, I'm just baffled why it's that much more CPU intensive than what an early ARM windows tablet easily ran 10 years ago. iPad OS is so far behind today's desktop OS' and they keep trying to shoehorn stuff like this into it just to convince consumers they still need a Macbook.
You can't really compare a desktop operating system to a mobile operating system. After all, Stage Manager didn't exist ten years ago. 🤷‍♂️
 
You can't really compare a desktop operating system to a mobile operating system. After all, Stage Manager didn't exist ten years ago. 🤷‍♂️

Sure I can, my surface pro is a mobile device that runs a desktop OS quite well. It's not necessarily apples to apples to compare windows tablets from 20+ years ago (although technically valid), I can still at least compare my Samsung ARM Windows tablet from 2011 which ran "stage manager" just fine. I only put those dates in to compare tablets, of course Windows and MacOS has had this capability for far longer.

Although personally I don't see what the draw of stage manager is. I'm not sure why I wouldn't want a window maximized versus the other windows on screen, and why I would want a quarter of my screen taken up by representations of my open windows, representations which are too small to really see what I was doing. Alt-tab works much better to see quick peeks, or just hovering over the taskbar. It just seems like a bandaid over the awful dock concept MacOS has (thank god for uBar!), just give me a simple taskbar so I know exactly what windows are open.
 
You can't really compare a desktop operating system to a mobile operating system. After all, Stage Manager didn't exist ten years ago. 🤷‍♂️
You're reminding me of this 2010 article.
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Multitasking, or the lack thereof, has been one of the most prevalent complaints about the iPhone as a serious business smartphone -- although I am not sure it is iPhone users who are doing the complaining. The lack of iPhone multitasking was a prime target of Verizon's "Droid Does" marketing campaign for the Android-based Motorola Droid.

The reality, though, is that the iPhone OS is already capable of multitasking, technically speaking. Certain apps and functions already multitask. You can switch to email or calendar while a voice call is still connected in the background. You can listen to music from the iPod function while continuing to use other apps on the iPhone. The multitasking is there; Apple has just restricted which apps actually have access to it.

To be honest, the iPhone screen only has enough real estate to display one app at a time, so multitasking is irrelevant in most cases. What is more important than literally leaving other apps open in the background, is building apps that are capable of retaining their state even when they're not in the foreground.

In other words, I don't need the app to run simultaneously, but as I switch from app to app I would like for the app to remember where I was so I don't have to start over each time. Because I can only see one app at a time anyway, this sort of app memory basically achieves the same goal as true multitasking. This solution is the responsibility of the app developers rather than Apple itself, and many apps already take this approach.

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Fast forward to 2022 and we still have Apple treating multitasking on substantially more capable and larger iPad based on iOS with the same 2010 view that we don't need to see multiple apps running simultaneously.
 
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Sure I can, my surface pro is a mobile device that runs a desktop OS quite well. It's not necessarily apples to apples to compare windows tablets from 20+ years ago (although technically valid), I can still at least compare my Samsung ARM Windows tablet from 2011 which ran "stage manager" just fine. I only put those dates in to compare tablets, of course Windows and MacOS has had this capability for far longer.

Although personally I don't see what the draw of stage manager is. I'm not sure why I wouldn't want a window maximized versus the other windows on screen, and why I would want a quarter of my screen taken up by representations of my open windows, representations which are too small to really see what I was doing. Alt-tab works much better to see quick peeks, or just hovering over the taskbar. It just seems like a bandaid over the awful dock concept MacOS has (thank god for uBar!), just give me a simple taskbar so I know exactly what windows are open.
Windows 8 is not a desktop operating system. Just look at it! o_O
Windows_8_Start_Screen.png

Fast forward to 2022 and we still have Apple treating multitasking on substantially more capable and larger iPad based on iOS with the same 2010 view that we don't need to see multiple apps running simultaneously.
Apple ditched that "Steve Jobs" era view when they did start allowing for multiple applications to be run simultaneously.
 
People are insisting that Apple needs to bloat iPadOS. 🤷‍♂️

Humm. That is the wrong approach to the challenge.

While out and about I think people find that the need to take 3 devices for communication, recreation and creation to minimal to no compromise … should simply not be there in todays day and age if not for speciality cases.

People didn’t ask for 4 different ways to manage windows, an idiosyncratic file management system put together with half featured productivity and creations apps. They did not ask for an harder way to use a mouse and a keyboard either when it better fits the purpose. All to be able to use their finger and eventually a pen also when it better fits the purpose.

Blaming users is nonsensical in 99% of the cases. Only very few users should be fired :).

Considering I need to take my MBP Pro when out and about for a stress free creation environment I am downgrading from the iPad Pro to either no iPad or the cheapest iPad I can find to serve as a companion in very specific cases. The iPhone (mine is the Max) works has a very very good consumption device already. It use is way way way more frequent and more intense.
 
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Windows 8 is not a desktop operating system. Just look at it! o_O
Windows_8_Start_Screen.png


Apple ditched that "Steve Jobs" era view when they did start allowing for multiple applications to be run simultaneously.

Sorry to break it to you, but Windows 8 IS a desktop OS. I get that opinions are all over the place on using Windows 8 on a desktop, but personally I really liked Windows 8 and found it an excellent bridge between desktop and touch use. Microsoft at least had the guts to experiment into the all-in-one world. But then again their money maker is Windows and not so much hardware, so they didn't have as much of a reason financially to convince consumers they needed a laptop and a tablet. I'm thankful every day for that because I don't have to think about carrying a Macbook and an iPad wherever I go.

But in any case you are far too late to the party, Windows has had multiple, moveable "windows" as well as a taskbar for a heck of a long time, long before Windows 8.
 
Windows 8 IS a desktop OS.
Windows 8 WAS a desktop OS. Which has been unsupported for years.

Having supported it, it was absolutely foul. RDP was hard work, too many things that might have worked OK with touch simply didn’t with keyboard and mouse.
 
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