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The iMac, low-end 14-inch MacBook Pro, high-end 14-inch MacBook Pro, 16-inch MacBook Pro, and Mac mini machines will be updated with M4 chips first, followed by the 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air models in spring 2025, the Mac Studio in mid-2025, and the Mac Pro later in 2025.

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Which Mac minis (Pro vs Non-Pro)? There's no promise that they'll get updated at the same time? :)

So M2 was never seen on the:
- iMac

And M3 may never be on:
- Mac mini
- Mac mini (pro)
- Mac Studio (maybe)
- Mac Pro (maybe)
 
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"designed to highlight artificial intelligence"

Is that actually a thing or is this just marketing?
 
Both would be great, but what does the phrase mean?
1) Apple needs to market itself as having lots of AI because the stock market demands that they do.

2) Apple does have artificial intelligence Apple Neural Engine cores in their Apple Silicon SoCs, so there's every reason to believe that these will get more powerful in the M4, and hopefully Apple will give Macs more RAM so that they can run bigger ML models.
 
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And M3 may never been on:
- Mac mini
- Mac mini (pro)
- Mac Studio (maybe)
- Mac Pro (maybe)

It would need to be the pro mini for me, M3 or eventual M4. I would think if they do one they would do both since. If Apple could make the Studio as quiet as the mini, when not going full out, I would gladly pay more for the power. The mini and the MacBook Pro spoiled me for quiet operation.
 
So, after years of seemingly being treated like a forgotten child the iMac could be one of the first Macs to get M4.

Interesting.
It makes sense, if iMac doesn't sell as well as other devices then they can release it early without it putting pressure on their M4 fabrication.
 
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Eagerly waiting to see the new iPad Pros along with new Pencil. Hopefully with the M4, the base RAM increase to 12 GB
 
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The iMac, low-end 14-inch MacBook Pro, high-end 14-inch MacBook Pro, 16-inch MacBook Pro, and Mac mini machines will be updated with M4 chips first, followed by the 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air models in spring 2025, the Mac Studio in mid-2025, and the Mac Pro later in 2025.

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With the latest company wide propaganda hitting the scenes again about 8Gb equivalent to 16Gb and trying to justify the unjustifiable, where even Apple now comment about 8Gb suitable for basic tasks, perhaps they need to rename the 8Gb MacBook Pro as the MacBook Basic.
 
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If the iPhone sells so much more than the Mac, what if they made an iPhone that was a Mac?

It would look like a regular iPhone, perhaps a bit thicker, and act like one. But if you plugged it into a special keyboard/dock, the phone would become a touchpad, and output to a PC monitor. The A18 chip will probably approach the M1 in performance.

A more expensive version would look like a laptop with built in screen. The phone would go where the trackpad would be, and again serve that function. Do this, and all the high-end iPhone buyers would have Macs.
 
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The iMac, low-end 14-inch MacBook Pro, high-end 14-inch MacBook Pro, 16-inch MacBook Pro, and Mac mini machines will be updated with M4 chips first, followed by the 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air models in spring 2025, the Mac Studio in mid-2025, and the Mac Pro later in 2025.

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Is that your leak? Because it makes sense… EDIT: okay, I misunderstood you, excuse me! You’re just quoting the last MacRumors report.

I think they will update those models, including Mac mini, with M4 and M4 Pro SoC this year, yes. Then by 2025 maybe they will equip the Mac Studio with newer M4 Max and M4 Ultra using the next N3P process… so they are a bit more powerful than M4 and M4 Pro, increasing the differentiation between categories inside the same chip family. This is pure speculation on my part, of course. One of the things I enjoy the most of posting here in MR is speculating about future Apple tech, makes me feel Gurman for a moment (only I don’t get paid for it).
 
MBA to get SD Card, please. M4 would be a bonus. Please bring back SD Card to the Air. I've given Apple this feedback about ten times now over several years, with that I feel are decent arguments... so if they ever do you can thank me for my persistence, haha.
 
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Gurman's story is a very different recontextualizing of what sounds like the same rumour mentioned on ATP, basically saying that M4 is coming along as normal, if hopefully a bit faster than M3. But interestingly, Gurman presents a more plausible release schedule, and one that might start to show a pattern.

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I should point out (own 2 M1s) real advantages for non-pro users such as MFI Hearing Aid compatibility for example will drive upgrading to M2-M3 base models, pbly not pro or max, as costs come down. AI too will drive upgrades long-term.
 
Apple surpassed Samsung 12 years as industry leader briefly late 2023, but come April 2024 sales numbers they are #2 again to Samsung. But the concern I have for Apple is that one product like that dominates is an Achilles heel if consumer interest looks elsewhere. For the last decade the iPhone has helped with attracting customers to Apple products but it's not a guarantee in the long run. Apple needs to diversify to hedge their bets IMHO. Tablets and computers they could greatly boost with better tactics.
This is true, but they cannot give a fledgling market yearly attention. That doesn't make business sense. In the case of Macs, if they have an 8% overall market share in the personal computing market, what do they gain by creating yearly releases? We already know they aren't willing to do that, even with popular macs. Mac mini and Mac Pro have shown that. With the release of M series chips, even more reason not to upgrade so frequently as the chips performance is just that good. I suspect this will change in the future depending on how well the new Qualcomm ARM chips are received by the market.
 
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Apple surpassed Samsung 12 years as industry leader briefly late 2023, but come April 2024 sales numbers they are #2 again to Samsung. But the concern I have for Apple is that one product like that dominates is an Achilles heel if consumer interest looks elsewhere. For the last decade the iPhone has helped with attracting customers to Apple products but it's not a guarantee in the long run. Apple needs to diversify to hedge their bets IMHO. Tablets and computers they could greatly boost with better tactics.
I meant to say Apple's most sold device. Not most sold cellphone.
 
The reason is that iPhone market share is through the roof and probably the most sold device. Mac sales are still a paltry share of the PC industry.
The Mac division represents ≈10% of Apple's revenue. That may not seem like much, but Apple's so big that, if the Mac division were a stand-alone company, it would rank ≈100th on the Fortune 500 list. That's huge. And that certainly makes it big enough to have the resources to update its products annually.

Plus Apple has signaled that's what it wants to do—since the M-series and A-series chips share architecture, it makes sense to synchronize the M-series chip updates with the A-series chips updates.
 
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wow, m4 shipping this year; looking forward to it. My ipad at home is way out of date.
Even if the rumour is accurate, shipping this year could be December. I honestly would interpret “end of year” as being within a couple months, either way, from Jan 1, 2025
 
Plus Apple has signaled that's what it wants to do—since the M-series and A-series chips share architecture, it makes sense to synchronize the M-series chip updates with the A-series chips updates.

Where is the line between signals and tea leaves?

It does feel like Apple would like the M* chips to be annual, but push comes to shove, they will always slip if it risks the iPhone schedule at all.

Apple made the A*x/z for many years at a 18 month cycle, which is the same class chip as the M* line rebranded. Even when Apple was hoping iPads would take over from the Mac, they didn’t speed up that cadence.

So it might happen, but I would consider it a coin toss.
 
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