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Topaz video enhancer Mac studio base ultra thoughts

I was just reading that. I'm also interested in m1 vs m2. I exchanged my base Mac Studio M1 Max for a Mac Mini M2 pro. I recently built a small PC with a 4080 myself! My first PC build ever. I'm happy with it.
 
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They don't mention the models for the upscale they tested either or if they're just running the benchmark. The M1 Ultra is slower the M2 Max in some models and faster in others. Perhaps they're just averaging it.
 
So here it is - the benchmarks from topaz AI for the base mac studio m2 ultra if anyone interested. More benchmarks are posted here for various cpus and gpus.

Topaz Video AI v3.2.9
System Information
OS: Mac v13.04
CPU: Apple M2 Ultra 64 GB
GPU: Apple M2 Ultra 48 GB
Processing Settings
device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1
Input Resolution: 1920x1080

Benchmark Results
Artemis 1X: 15.31 fps 2X: 08.17 fps 4X: 02.83 fps

Proteus 1X: 14.33 fps 2X: 07.80 fps 4X: 02.28 fps

Gaia 1X: 05.90 fps 2X: 03.95 fps 4X: 02.69 fps

4X Slowmo Apollo: 10.95 fps APFast: 37.62 fps Chronos: 05.87 fps CHFast: 07.55 fps

Also geekbench scores are
OPENCL 114k
METAL 205k
SingleC 2691
MultiC 20959

I did test out the m1 ultra last year and my scores then are not too far off from these except the gpu.
 
Here's my results. Not getting super consistent results in the benchmark. The 60 GPU core I posted originally was the first run I did which turns out it was one of the better runs I had with it so I updated it to a later run which is more consistent with how it performs.

Mac Studio 76 GPU cores

Topaz Video AI v3.2.9
System Information
OS: Mac v13.04
CPU: Apple M2 Ultra 64 GB
GPU: Apple M2 Ultra 48 GB

Processing Settings
device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1
Input Resolution: 1920x1080

Benchmark Results
Artemis 1X: 18.40 fps 2X: 10.20 fps 4X: 03.10 fps
Proteus 1X: 16.53 fps 2X: 08.21 fps 4X: 02.67 fps
Gaia 1X: 06.28 fps 2X: 04.40 fps 4X: 03.21 fps
4X Slowmo Apollo: 12.25 fps APFast: 34.83 fps Chronos: 06.09 fps CHFast: 07.67 fps


Mac Studio 60 GPU cores

Topaz Video AI v3.2.9
System Information
OS: Mac v13.04
CPU: Apple M2 Ultra 64 GB
GPU: Apple M2 Ultra 48 GB

Processing Settings
device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1
Input Resolution: 1920x1080

Benchmark Results
Artemis 1X: 14.40 fps 2X: 09.58 fps 4X: 02.71 fps
Proteus 1X: 14.42 fps 2X: 07.39 fps 4X: 02.37 fps
Gaia 1X: 06.13 fps 2X: 04.24 fps 4X: 02.73 fps
4X Slowmo Apollo: 10.55 fps APFast: 33.18 fps Chronos: 05.91 fps CHFast: 07.34 fps


For reference here's some of the other systems with numbers from 3.2.9

Mac Studio M1 Ultra 48 GPU cores
Topaz Video AI v3.2.9
System Information
OS: Mac v13.04
CPU: Apple M1 Ultra 64 GB
GPU: Apple M1 Ultra 48 GB

Processing Settings
device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1
Input Resolution: 1920x1080

Benchmark Results
Artemis 1X: 13.59 fps 2X: 06.78 fps 4X: 02.66 fps
Proteus 1X: 12.46 fps 2X: 06.34 fps 4X: 02.35 fps
Gaia 1X: 04.04 fps 2X: 02.66 fps 4X: 02.24 fps
4X Slowmo Apollo: 07.93 fps APFast: 25.81 fps Chronos: 03.74 fps CHFast: 05.73 fps



16" MBP M2 Max 38 GPU cores
Topaz Video AI v3.2.9
System Information
OS: Mac v13.04
CPU: Apple M2 Max 32 GB
GPU: Apple M2 Max 21.333 GB

Processing Settings
device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1
Input Resolution: 1920x1080

Benchmark Results
Artemis 1X: 11.13 fps 2X: 07.25 fps 4X: 02.51 fps
Proteus 1X: 11.07 fps 2X: 06.46 fps 4X: 01.80 fps
Gaia 1X: 03.34 fps 2X: 02.42 fps 4X: 01.74 fps
4X Slowmo Apollo: 09.05 fps APFast: 29.86 fps Chronos: 03.68 fps CHFast: 06.00 fps
 
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Wow, imagine estimated completion times measured in hours instead of days. I think it is time for my iMac to be retired.

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Topaz Video AI v3.3.0

System Information

OS: Mac v13.04

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10910 CPU @ 3.60GHz 64 GB

GPU: AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 15.984 GB

Processing Settings

device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1

Input Resolution: 1920x1080

Benchmark Results

Artemis 1X: 03.06 fps 2X: 02.02 fps 4X: 00.83 fps

Proteus 1X: 03.04 fps 2X: 02.07 fps 4X: 00.89 fps

Gaia 1X: 01.03 fps 2X: 00.72 fps 4X: 00.56 fps

4X Slowmo Apollo: 02.61 fps APFast: 10.42 fps Chronos: 00.51 fps CHFast: 01.10 fps



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I have some previously upscaled 4K video I would like to try to convert from 24fps to 60fps. I tried it with my iMac (Radeon Pro 5700 xt 16gb) and it gave me a 20 day completion estimate (Chronos Fast) and then choked on it. Any chance of getting a benchmark run at 4K so I can see how much of an improvement the Ultra M2 would be? Thanks.
 
DLary said:
I have some previously upscaled 4K video I would like to try to convert from 24fps to 60fps. I tried it with my iMac (Radeon Pro 5700 xt 16gb) and it gave me a 20 day completion estimate (Chronos Fast) and then choked on it. Any chance of getting a benchmark run at 4K so I can see how much of an improvement the Ultra M2 would be? Thanks.
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You didn't give us the exact duration of your video, nor the exact specs, but I tried to convert a 4k video from 24 fps to 60 fps using your parameters on a M2 Ultra and it gives something like 2 fps, that is 50x the duration of your video.

So a 2 minute video would be 1 hour and 40 minutes.

As for me, I use it mainly to convert 1080p videos to 4k with Topaz Video AI (Proteus), and it is between 7.5 fps to 10 fps which is blazing fast in comparison to my MBP M1 Pro (2x to 2.5x the performance).

And I used to have a iMac 2019 i9 40 GB RAM Radeon Vega, the M2 Ultra is something 6x to 8x the performance of that machine. And I'm not even talking about exporting a 4k video to HEVC Dolby Vision in Final Cut Pro with maximum quality : 2mn for a 4 mn video...
 
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Thanks for the response. I get .2 to .3 fps when converting to 60fps using my 2020 iMac with the 5700XT. Pretty much unusable. I am leaning towards purchasing the M2 Ultra, 76 core version with 64GB memory.
 
A good review is out and as i suspected, the software is not full taking advantage of the apple hardware
 
I think that is probably correct on some level but I also think he's making some assumptions that probably aren't correct either. The software used to be almost entirely dependent on the Neural engine performance and the GPU does play some role now, at least on some models. Saying it doesn't really utilize the Neural engines but then showing a M2P beating a M1 Ultra in his test doesn't make sense unless it is utilizing the neural engines. I tend to upscale 1080->4k and in that case the M2M 38 is sometimes faster and sometimes slower than the M1U 48. I've gotten rid of all my base M1 devices but they would render at about 1.5fps compared to over 9fps on the M2U. That saves DAYS of rendering time on some of my videos.
 
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I wonder if there needs to be further software optimizations when new m chips get released by apple by software companies or do they just scale across from m1 to m2. I remember when I converted a 1080p movie 1.5 hrs long to 4k and took a day but surprised my m1 macbook pro 13" did it keeping temps low of course. But i'm waiting for the m3 to see what improvements that will bring.
 
cpnotebook80 said:
I wonder if there needs to be further software optimizations when new m chips get released by apple by software companies or do they just scale across from m1 to m2. I remember when I converted a 1080p movie 1.5 hrs long to 4k and took a day but surprised my m1 macbook pro 13" did it keeping temps low of course. But i'm waiting for the m3 to see what improvements that will bring.
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From what I understood when the M1 Ultra came out the Neural engine clusters were an exception to the "just works" and the clusters did need to be specifically targeted with new code. I'm not sure if that ever got done or not with Video AI but I do know they ran an optimization pass on the software after 3.0 came out. It has gotten quite a bit faster than the 2.x versions now and it was slower when 3.0 first was released.
 
DLary said:
Wow, imagine estimated completion times measured in hours instead of days. I think it is time for my iMac to be retired.

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Topaz Video AI v3.3.0

System Information

OS: Mac v13.04

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10910 CPU @ 3.60GHz 64 GB

GPU: AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 15.984 GB

Processing Settings

device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1

Input Resolution: 1920x1080

Benchmark Results

Artemis 1X: 03.06 fps 2X: 02.02 fps 4X: 00.83 fps

Proteus 1X: 03.04 fps 2X: 02.07 fps 4X: 00.89 fps

Gaia 1X: 01.03 fps 2X: 00.72 fps 4X: 00.56 fps

4X Slowmo Apollo: 02.61 fps APFast: 10.42 fps Chronos: 00.51 fps CHFast: 01.10 fps



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I've definitely been thinking the same 😅

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Topaz Video AI v3.2.0
System Information
OS: Mac v12.0607
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40GHz 64 GB
GPU: AMD Radeon Pro 570 4 GB
Processing Settings: device: 0 vram: 1 instances: 1
Input Resolution: 1920x1080
Benchmark Results
Artemis 1X: 1.14 fps 2X: 0.77 fps 4X: 0.33 fps
Proteus 1X: 1.14 fps 2X: 0.80 fps 4X: 0.35 fps
Gaia 1X: 0.37 fps 2X: 0.26 fps 4X: 0.21 fps
4X Slowmo Apollo: 1.12 fps Chronos: 0.29 fps Chronos Fast: 0.63 fps

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